not totally understand my comment. But if you want to know more about Gruden, just read about him. I read enough re his hateful emails to come to the conclusion that I would not want him at VT. That's the only real point I was making - that he would not be a good fit for VT - IMO. Also I pointed out that people tend to forget things (it's got nothing to do with forgiveness, which you brought up). The forgetting part probably has more to do with information overload/ internet noise and people just forget things) and maybe all they remember about Gruden is that he was an NFL coach and won a super bowl so heck yeah we'll take him over Pry, yada yada, without even recalling "why" he was removed from coaching the Raiders. My comment about rich white men was primarily related to NFL coaches over many decades getting fired or tossed aside for losing seasons with one team, only to find themselves back coaching another NFL team shortly thereafter, and on and on, and once again Gruden (who I don't think should be leading men) is back trying to get back into coaching - while there's millions of other qualified non-racists/non-homophobes that could do the job, if they were ever given the chance. Not sure why you bring up prison? ** Edited by Scream_On_D at 8/16/2025, 1:59:34 AM ** Edited by Scream_On_D at 8/16/2025, 2:06:21 AM