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well, like most people, I try to forgive people, sure, but my post wasn't about forgiveness at all, but rather that I would never want someone like Gruen representing VT. Who in the world would have to forgive him anyway? VT's President, VT's admin, VT's coaches, all VT alumni, all VT football players past and present, everyone who ever has had anything to do with VT?...etc. It's not about who would forgive him. I love VT and I just don't care for him to represent VT. Gruden was a grown man when he wrote those emails; therefore, I believe he demonstrated that he's racist and homophobic. Half of our country forgives a prominent racist every day so I don't think anyone should be calling me a hypocrite or someone lacking forgiveness, just like I most likely wouldn't call them someone that. As far as I'm aware, Gruden hasn't changed who he is - unlike Mike Vick. All Gruden's done is sue the NFL and try to get back into coaching. I don't think he should ever be allowed to be a coach that leads men or boys again. But rich white men tend to get what they want...particularly in the NFL, right.
Posted: 08/15/2025 at 01:14 PM ET
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Per athlon sports, Jon Gruden floated as
summervillehokie 08/13/25 08:21 AM ET
short memories on this board, racist emails is why he's no longer coaching
Scream_On_D 08/13/25 11:14 PM ET
Curious do u forgive people that are sorry 4 what they did like Mike Vick?
Stech 08/14/25 02:45 PM ET
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Scream_On_D 08/15/25 01:14 PM ET
I agree on Mike & forgiveness, and I was hoping for more facts on Gruden,
Stech 08/15/25 04:45 PM ET
I think its hard to convey entire meaning in a message board so you might
Scream_On_D 08/16/25 01:47 AM ET
Ok thanks for clarifying, I brought up prisons because I wasn’t sure what
Stech 08/16/25 07:14 AM ET
they are hypocrites**
MrFantastic! 08/15/25 10:10 AM ET
Know nothing about it as I don’t follow nfl- who was he writing racist
tallahasseehokie 08/14/25 10:40 AM ET
It was part of the NFL's investigation on Dan Snyder**
hoosnowahokie 08/14/25 12:07 PM ET
What a dumbo- no common sense
tallahasseehokie 08/14/25 12:51 PM ET
He won a victory in his against the NFL
section11hokie 08/14/25 09:49 AM ET
Someone is going to give him a shot at some point....
TekkNerd 08/14/25 08:36 AM ET
Good luck to whomever that is. The tap dancing they'll have to do...
great2bahokie 08/14/25 09:00 AM ET
Liberty on line 1**
reestuart 08/14/25 09:28 AM ET
absolute truth.....**
squarerootofone 08/14/25 09:43 AM ET
LOL!**
great2bahokie 08/14/25 09:29 AM ET
FWIW it appears the Saints hired him in 2023 to be a coaching consultant.
VTHokie2000 08/14/25 09:20 AM ET
Should people be given a second chance or are there some things that are
VTHokie2000 08/14/25 08:32 AM ET
I’ve probably been given 1,000 second chances
GCHokieof91 08/14/25 10:23 AM ET
I suspect everyone has been given multiple second chances during their
VTHokie2000 08/14/25 10:49 AM ET
Thanks for reminding. I really had forgot. **
40ozDistrict 08/13/25 11:29 PM ET
LOL. That would be awesome if true. But not true**
extremehokie 08/13/25 05:53 PM ET
…Brent is going to have a breakout season
chumley 08/13/25 06:19 PM ET
In other unrelated news, Jon Gruden's agent is a hard working man**
Tombo 08/13/25 05:36 PM ET
If Chucky is the next HC at VT, then Hokies fans better love seeing the
VTHokie2000 08/13/25 04:45 PM ET
Hope Pry wins. I like John G. Could be fun**
Fore_Hokies 08/13/25 03:08 PM ET
We are paying 4 mil for pry, and we are on the bottom for salaries
1947Sunbowl 08/13/25 03:25 PM ET
He stated he'd love to coach in the SEC,,,
banishedtothelounge 08/13/25 02:22 PM ET
Do you have a link? I don't see that anywhere.**
great2bahokie 08/13/25 02:06 PM ET
link, i think this is what's being referenced:**
squarerootofone 08/13/25 02:49 PM ET
Bring on Chucky**
Hokie_N_NC 08/13/25 01:28 PM ET
Tankin' for Chucky!**
JACHokies 08/13/25 03:57 PM ET
I got something else that floats which I believe more than that**
Synaesthesia 08/13/25 01:27 PM ET
Gruden vs Belichick in the ACCcg would be crazy**
kingofcassell 08/13/25 12:39 PM ET
Hesitant of a super bowl coach vs one that doesn't know how to call timeout**
budforpresident 08/13/25 11:59 AM ET
LOL.**
reestuart 08/13/25 10:14 AM ET
Floated by a bottle of whiskey **
hokeyhokie 08/13/25 08:24 AM ET