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IB4TECH IB4TECH OP
Jan 15, 2026 at 09:22 AM ET
Debbie said something to the effect that a flagrant foul is the correct
call when you run into a player that is in the air. That sounds like an enormous number of flagrant fouls could be called in a game.

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The_VT_Rock
6mo
I feel like Boopie slowed up...
He knew he was going to get hit, so that last step he slowed up to make sure he did...which I think if you purposely put yourself into harm's way, there should be no flagrant. I have watched enough basketball games lately to say let's get the refs away from the review monitor as much as possible. One way is to look to upgrade a foul to fragrant - let's stop doing this so we don't see there and watch the refs watch the game on a monitor they are suppose to ref.
IB4TECH IB4TECH OP
6mo
The only flagrant that I like is the F2 where there is intent of bodily
harm. Anything less is just a foul.
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chagerma
6mo
She made numerous incorrect statements during that review
1. She said he ran into a player in the air (I know what she's referring to), when in actuality, Dorn went up before Miller. 2. She said there was contact to the head. After watching it, there was no contact to the head. His swipe at a block missed everything. The play by play guy even said it looked a lot worse initially than the replay showed. I'm not surprised they called it flagrant but IMO it wasn't.
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I love VT!
6mo
Really disliked her call of that...
...and I am usually a fan of her work overall. She described both action (as you pointed out - no contact to the head) and implied intent (it was a foul - not a premeditated murder) that mischaracterized Dorn's actual play and even his character. She wouldn't let it go and I think she was terribly wrong.
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D-Day
6mo
Including Lawal’s last basket. He was “an airborne player” if thats a thing
He was hit in the head. No call but according to her airborne player rant, it should at least be a foul if not a flagrant. For the record, I think it was a legit no call. Kind of incidental contact type stuff. But if you are going by what she says it’s a flagrant 1.
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chagerma
6mo
100% the reason that Dorn was called for it over Lawal is b/c size diff
of the guy doing the fouling.
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D-Day
6mo
Sadly true. A fouls a foul though and both or neither should be called.