He absolutely recruits athleticism...
Would be pretty difficult to say Justyn Mutts and Rodney Rice aren't high level athletes
Not a ton of athletes matriculate to Blacksburg without extenuating circumstances. And when one does, they come with flaws in the skill department. Because if you have high level skill and high level athleticism, you don't go to Virginia Tech.
So MY has a conundrum...do you take flawed athletes and hope to teach them offense? Or do you take highly skilled players who are overlooked for their athleticism and scheme the game to work in your favor? There's an argument to be made for both, but what you CANT do is be in purgatory between the two. You have to choose an identity and stick with it.
The gripe with Greenbergs teams were always inconsistency. He got some athletes that other teams stopped recruiting due to character issues (Marquie Cooke, Justin Holt, Jeff Allen, Montrezl Harrell, etc). Guess what? Questionable character breeds inconsistency.
The gripe with Buzz's teams were they were small and lacked depth. He got some athletes by cheating his balls off, and there's only so many players you can do that for when funds are limited. So guess what, your teams are small (because post players who are able to be bought aren't coming to VT) and your depth consists of players who went on to Longwood, San Diego and UT-San Antonio
The gripe with MY is athleticism, but it is by far the most sustainable strategy to long term success in Blacksburg. Buzz didn't give two sh**s about long term success, so he simply bit the depth bullet.
The good news is the two incoming recruits are both athletic AND skilled. VT got one because he was gar outshadowed by his two higher ranked teammates. VT got the other because of perceived health issues and an opportune time for a hometown school to pass for someone else.
Tyler Johnson is killing it this year. Even with 2 perceived "better" recruits on his team, he is showing out as the prize of the bunch.
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Thread Replies (33)
CMY's future: He recruits to his system. He doesn't necessarily recruit
-- ancient alien 2018
Dec 30, 2023 at 06:13 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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12/30/23 06:13 PM ET
He absolutely recruits athleticism...
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-- GCHokie34
Dec 30, 2023 at 06:39 PM ET
GCHokie34
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12/30/23 06:39 PM ET
Holy mackerel it looks like Tyler Johnson can make every play in the book**
-- Zanderhokie
Jan 02, 2024 at 11:54 AM ET
Zanderhokie
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01/02/24 11:54 AM ET
Ryan Jones is not an athletic prospect
-- jfrance41
Dec 31, 2023 at 11:12 AM ET
jfrance41
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12/31/23 11:12 AM ET
We have vastly different views of what an athlete is then...
-- GCHokie34
Dec 31, 2023 at 01:25 PM ET
GCHokie34
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12/31/23 01:25 PM ET
Seems like the athleticism issue is more around retention than recruiting.
-- Gobbler Guru
Dec 31, 2023 at 11:08 AM ET
Gobbler Guru
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12/31/23 11:08 AM ET
Alleyne Maddox and Ojiako were all publicly chastised by this fan base...
-- GCHokie34
Dec 31, 2023 at 01:26 PM ET
GCHokie34
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12/31/23 01:26 PM ET
There are still rules and a lot of them...
-- GCHokie34
Dec 31, 2023 at 09:34 AM ET
GCHokie34
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12/31/23 09:34 AM ET
GCHOKIE - grately appreciate your insight; seems as if re-recruitment and
-- SCHokie80
Dec 30, 2023 at 09:54 PM ET
SCHokie80
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12/30/23 09:54 PM ET
So, did CMY recruit these two for both athleticism and skill? I thought
-- ancient alien 2018
Dec 30, 2023 at 08:39 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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12/30/23 08:39 PM ET
It's in the second paragraph...
-- GCHokie34
Dec 30, 2023 at 08:47 PM ET
GCHokie34
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12/30/23 08:47 PM ET
We use to get tons of athletes with Greenberg and Buzz**
-- TboneParkerVT
Dec 30, 2023 at 08:56 PM ET
TboneParkerVT
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12/30/23 08:56 PM ET
At least read the posts before messaging pls**
-- GCHokie34
Dec 30, 2023 at 08:57 PM ET
GCHokie34
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12/30/23 08:57 PM ET
good to hear there is help on the way**
-- tallahasseehokie
Dec 30, 2023 at 08:09 PM ET
tallahasseehokie
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12/30/23 08:09 PM ET
my takeaway from this is that NIL for our basketball team is underfunded
-- ShockWaveVT
Dec 30, 2023 at 07:10 PM ET
ShockWaveVT
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12/30/23 07:10 PM ET
we definitely paid for some of these guys
-- MFWHokie0607
Dec 30, 2023 at 08:17 PM ET
MFWHokie0607
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12/30/23 08:17 PM ET
VT did not pay Robbie Beran 100k**
-- GCHokie34
Dec 30, 2023 at 08:34 PM ET
GCHokie34
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12/30/23 08:34 PM ET
If that’s remotely true no one has stolen more without a gun.
-- hoaf
Dec 30, 2023 at 08:49 PM ET
hoaf
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12/30/23 08:49 PM ET
he left money on the table he could've gotten then
-- MFWHokie0607
Dec 30, 2023 at 08:40 PM ET
MFWHokie0607
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12/30/23 08:40 PM ET
Help to get outside NIL opportunities for an indeterminate amount of money
-- GCHokie34
Dec 30, 2023 at 08:57 PM ET
GCHokie34
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12/30/23 08:57 PM ET
GC, why won’t Kidd pass the ball out? Aluma and Mutts would. Teams are
-- GBOHokie
Dec 30, 2023 at 06:50 PM ET
GBOHokie
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12/30/23 06:50 PM ET
why would Kidd pass out from the post when he's 1v1 8 feet from the hoop ?
-- ShockWaveVT
Dec 30, 2023 at 07:12 PM ET
ShockWaveVT
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12/30/23 07:12 PM ET
There's a LOT more Kidd can do to develop...
-- GCHokie34
Dec 30, 2023 at 06:54 PM ET
GCHokie34
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12/30/23 06:54 PM ET
They rarely doubled him today and when they did he did a good job of passg**
-- brownsummithokie
Dec 30, 2023 at 07:34 PM ET
brownsummithokie
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12/30/23 07:34 PM ET
Great insight amongst a tough day, let their challenges inspire you please!**
-- Stech
Dec 30, 2023 at 06:46 PM ET
Stech
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12/30/23 06:46 PM ET
Where did WF get their portal guys from?**
-- TboneParkerVT
Dec 30, 2023 at 08:57 PM ET
TboneParkerVT
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12/30/23 08:57 PM ET
Steve Forbes comes from the Buzz Williams School of Cheat to be Above Avg**
-- GCHokie34
Dec 30, 2023 at 08:59 PM ET
GCHokie34
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12/30/23 08:59 PM ET
Does that mean they are getting shoe money outside of the NIL? Sincere
-- Stech
Dec 31, 2023 at 08:16 AM ET
Stech
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12/31/23 08:16 AM ET
I know Forbes has earned this rep but with
-- Femoyer Hokie
Dec 31, 2023 at 07:51 AM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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12/31/23 07:51 AM ET
There's still a ton of ways to cheat...
-- GCHokie34
Dec 31, 2023 at 09:29 AM ET
GCHokie34
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12/31/23 09:29 AM ET