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The_VT_Rock OP
Nov 13, 2025 at 11:40 AM ET
I know this won't happen, but....
Just a note - none of this happens, but just playing message board what-if... If Michigan and USC don't agree to the $2.4B investment and don't sign the new GOR, could Michigan and USC decide on the ACC? They could go independent in FB and put their other sports in the ACC, but if they put all sports, the ACC would be 19/20 teams. Does ND come full on board to the ACC and the ACC gets more $$$ for TV? They would be at 20, USC would have built-in traveling partners...maybe they get a few top Big XII schools and go 24. The question is - how much $$$ would Michigan, USC, and ND football add to ACC TV deals? It won't happen, but how much value would that be?

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reestuart reestuart
8mo
USC & Michigan aren't going anywhere until at least 2036. The PE
disagreement isn't about staying or leaving the conference. This will end up going away after they decide how shares are paid out in the future. USC & Michigan are certainly trying to establish where they are in the pecking order. I doubt it's any more than that.
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon
8mo
I saw MHver3 was peddling this rumor.
Not a reliable source to put it politely.
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Stech
8mo
ND will stay semi independent 🏈, & Michigan & USCw do the same, ESPN IMHO
would probably pay more for that in a heartbeat. It takes two monster teams from Fox, and Michigan and USCw make all of their football money like ND does. It sounds far fetched, but far fetched is the new normal these days. Way to think out of the box Rock! ** Edited by Stech at 11/13/2025, 1:24:45 PM
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SMU Pony
8mo
USC was previously in talks with Netflix about the ND game...
I wonder if Netflix would pay up for USC's home games if they went independent. I also wonder what a network would pay for a USC/Michigan package where you schedule one at home each week of the season, assuming they could get an attractive slate of games (14 or so total per season) playing each other, ND, and ACC/SEC/B12 teams. For reference, CBS and NBC reportedly paid about $300M each to air one Big Ten game per week (plus a few throwaway games on Peacock and CBB games). Alternatively, NBC reportedly pays ND $50M/year for 6-7 games per season. One of those deals seems like a LOT better value proposition than the other. If you don't believe me, check out the Big Ten TV ratings on CBS and NBC this year--there have been some huge clunkers.
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Big12 guy
8mo
The ACC would be a different conference for sure. They would
have to open up the media contract for negotiations if that were to happen. On my end, I'd like Nebraska to scoff at the PE deal, and come back to her roots in the B12. They lost their recruiting stronghold when they left, and getting back to the plains, Colorado, and Texas would do that football team some good. I wonder though ..... What if USC, Michigan, and maybe a few other top schools broke off and went independent, and signed 10 year scheduling agreements like NS and Clemson just did. Let the money fall where it may, keep their post season money, and have their Olympics play each other. You get 6 - 8 top schools that do that, and it would change the dynamic of this conference stuff significantly. If they all got the same deal as ND with the playoffs, it's what I would do if it was an option.
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Baltimore_Hokie
8mo
I think you're onto something, in that the end result of conference-
realignment is going to be the end of the traditional conference paradigm, and a transition to the biggest brands entering into something that more closely resembles a confederacy of individual interests, as opposed to a traditional conference model with a centralized command structure. The big brands will own their own football media rights individually, will have more direct control, and will have longstanding scheduling agreements with other big brands instead of conferences.
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Tailgate Guru
8mo
Yes, imagine a world where
There were independents like, say, Notre Dame, Penn State, Florida State, Miami, South Carolina, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Pitt, Louisville, Syracuse and a few tomato cans like Temple, Rutgers and Boston College. Think of the scheduling possibilities. Wouldn’t that be cool? ** Edited by Tailgate Guru at 11/13/2025, 6:34:54 PM
reestuart reestuart
8mo
That and take me back to a time when January 1 was the best day of the year
VTinAK VTinAK
8mo
Personally, I yearn for the big east days
We were never tougher.
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Big12 guy
8mo
The casual fans wish for the old Big East as well. Add
the PAC to the list.
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Truthahn
8mo
You speak of my home world. It vanished long ago, with the birth of Skynet.
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TerryD
8mo
Be still my heart
College football began to unravel when that world went away.
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Big12 guy
8mo
Haha. It's a different world and that was a different time. Today,
we have media contracts, and playoff guaranteed monies. Today, the marque programs -probably about 5-10 realistically, are worth enough to have their own media contracts, have scheduling agreements like ND does with the ACC, and separate themselves from the rest. Why have a "P1"? The top brands would just be carrying the others, no different than now. lose the shared revenue of the post season, lose sharing the media money, and schedule football games on a contractual basis. If Michigan and USC ( not west, there is only one USC) were to leave the BIG, and schedule a 10 year scheduling agreement with ND and Clemson (only because ND already did), how many other top brands would want to be part of that club? Bama and a few SEC schools come to mind. OSU and Penn State come to mind. Texas and Oklahoma come to mind. The networks would fall all over themselves to air those games year after year - and they just might give individual media deals to those schools. Put your basketball and Olympics in the ACC, Big East, B12, or it really doesn't even matter, because any one of those conferences would LOVE a scheduling agreement with the top brands like the ACC currently has with ND.