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harlote101 OP
Jan 31, 2025 at 02:19 PM ET
Off the top of my head FSU/ACC Random thoughts Yesterday's news
What even was the point of the actual lawsuit? When the court's records are seal / when it is dismissed who 'won'? Attorney's on retainer.... Without a formal withdrawal to leave The ACC (by ex date).. It became obvious FSU was all show. ESPN and by ext. ACC have protected "their interests" .

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VTCALS72
That looks pretty correct to me.
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Stech
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HokieAl HokieAl
FSU and Clemson forced the ACC to make changes
This move for better scheduling and both performance based revenue and brand based revenue is a major shift for the ACC. I don’t think the ACC wanted all the bad press and the constant threat of the top programs leaving. So they had to make concessions. The lawsuits were embarrassing the conference. And so I think they were successful. ** Edited by HokieAl at 2/1/2025, 2:35:20 PM
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ren_hoek
Here's the takeaway for Clemson
If we can't leave now then the next best thing is to adjust the scheduling so we play Miami Florida State, Virginia tech, UNC, Notre Dame, Louisville, and other schools who are serious about football more often and play Boston college, Wake Forest, Syracuse, and other ratings-challenged schools less.
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VTCALS72
I don't think that at all
FSU had one immediate goal, get out of the ACC so they could pick between the 2 suiters they thought were all in a later to get them. In the end all the pontification by boths sides did not change much at all. FSU will get an unequal share and probably more than the average ACC team thinks they should get and less than FSU thinks they deserve. But the biggie is the GOR is still the law until 2036 which means the cost of exit under the GOR is prohibitive for any to leave. I do wonder if the "Branded fund" is limited to 3 or 4 specific schools or is it for the schools that advance the most. In other words if in force for 2024 would SMU get way more than FSU?
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EDGEMAN
The only concessions were made for Miami, Clemson and F$U
Maybe VT needs to start raising a stink?
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HokiesACC2004
We don't have their leverage
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EDGEMAN
What leverage does Miami have?
They are the most overrated program in the nation.
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VTCALS72
Without a "committable" offer from the P2 in hand, it was a stupid move
by FSU and Clemson. No matter what they say in public, the reality that UNC has more pop than they do stings real bad.
PadrosWindup PadrosWindup
So you still think the GOR was breakable??
The ACC GOR was NOT breakable. FSU threw a hail mary to get a court to bust it. It didn't happen because it was never gonna happen. The GOR wasn't gonna break yesterday or today or tomorrow. Not until 2036. Whether or not FSU/Clemson had offers from other conferences or not.
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VTCALS72
I always thought the GOR was stronger than the FSU challenge.
I fully agree with your take. FSU and any other schools exit will most likely be under the current terms of the GOR and ACC exit fees.
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Stech
Restraint of Trade Lawsuit by Oregon State could break it, anything else is
just chatter being encouraged by the basement Pod Casters who need/want clicks. Who knows what will happen with the Restraint of Trade case against penalties for leaving a Conference. It could go like the one where employers can no longer penalize someone for leaving, or they could say this is different situation and the penalties are fine. I really find it extraordinary that FSU’s lawyers didn’t pursue this path. It seems like the only legitimate chance to beat the GOR.
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VTCALS72
But nobody restrained FSU from anything, They willingly signed the GOR
The fact it is harming FSU's ambitions (it is) is of no consequence.
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Stech
Employees signed penalty agreements too, no one made them, it’s reversed &
those penalties were not given, and you can no longer do those penalties. The same could happen with Conference penalties for leaving too. The no one made them sign argument didn’t hold up in court for employees/employers. Now we wait on that case to be decided for Conference penalties.
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Big12 guy
Notice that ESPN steps in whenever a GOR is challenged. They
need the conference GOR's, or their contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on.