Conferences are Alliance’s & NOT Conferences, we don’t even play ea. other
very often in many cases. We are using out of date terms, because that’s what we have always called them. However, playing 1/2 the teams once every 7 years, should not be defined as the same Conference, it’s an Alliance.
If you think of it as an Alliance, which is closer to reality, and not a Conference, then the Notre Dame and ACC can work. Let’s assume Conferences/Alliances can make their own rules to crown their champion. (This will likely happen with the reconfiguration) Let’s assume the P5 will insist their Champions will get an automatic bid (they will get this too, because they will split off from the G5 if they don’t get it)
So all the ACC has to do is go with no Divisions, but you must play 7 in your Alliance and at least 9 total P5 games and the highest ranked team gets the automatic bid (Orange Bowl for the ACC). The ACC adds Navy to get to 16 in the Alliance. Notre Dame with Navy has 6 ACC games without changing a thing from what they are doing right now scheduling wise. Then say to Notre Dame, if you add 1 more current ACC game, 5 to 6 plus Navy makes it 7. Do that, and you can win the Automatic Bid as an Alliance member (which you already are by the way). You can still keep NBC for home games and you are as Independent in football basically, as you are now, with the exception of 1 more game with the current ACC schools.
You also increase your chances at getting a playoff bid, because you can get the Alliance bid and can get at large bid too, by basically just adding 1 more ACC game than right now.
[Post edited by Stech at 01/26/2022 06:02AM]
If you think of it as an Alliance, which is closer to reality, and not a Conference, then the Notre Dame and ACC can work. Let’s assume Conferences/Alliances can make their own rules to crown their champion. (This will likely happen with the reconfiguration) Let’s assume the P5 will insist their Champions will get an automatic bid (they will get this too, because they will split off from the G5 if they don’t get it)
So all the ACC has to do is go with no Divisions, but you must play 7 in your Alliance and at least 9 total P5 games and the highest ranked team gets the automatic bid (Orange Bowl for the ACC). The ACC adds Navy to get to 16 in the Alliance. Notre Dame with Navy has 6 ACC games without changing a thing from what they are doing right now scheduling wise. Then say to Notre Dame, if you add 1 more current ACC game, 5 to 6 plus Navy makes it 7. Do that, and you can win the Automatic Bid as an Alliance member (which you already are by the way). You can still keep NBC for home games and you are as Independent in football basically, as you are now, with the exception of 1 more game with the current ACC schools.
You also increase your chances at getting a playoff bid, because you can get the Alliance bid and can get at large bid too, by basically just adding 1 more ACC game than right now.
[Post edited by Stech at 01/26/2022 06:02AM]
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4y
because we can accomplish more together, than apart.
However, we are a long way from what used to be called a Conference. We’ve changed dramatically, but kept a name that really doesn’t fit what we are today. Let’s focus on our mission and not our name, it’s way more important!!
However, we are a long way from what used to be called a Conference. We’ve changed dramatically, but kept a name that really doesn’t fit what we are today. Let’s focus on our mission and not our name, it’s way more important!!
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4y
No 1 what is best for va tech and then consider the conference
I do think things have changed and its over broad roles of universities over 50 years
1. Vt has evolved into a broad national university with national footprint in r&d medicine and it/ engineering and business..with 30-35 k broad enrollment and campuses in dmv roanoke and hampton roads . Its simply not the small regional university of 1970. With that .. it cannot be ignored.
2. Vt athletics have grown tremendously as well; our rep is we tried hard; more passion and dedication but not as many big doners..we did wonderful and worked the big east for national pre-eminemce. All was for vt excellence.
3 joining the acc has been remarkable for vt as well as the acc. However, i feel many in leadership felt we succeeded and now its gravy.. we coasted and sustained because we are in the acc blanket.. we as an institution didn't have the drive and determination for national pre-eminence like we got during the big easf days.
4. I think athletics are beginning to realize its about vt achieving excellence first and if acc fits greaf. For football. Pry might be the besf fit on outreach and rebuilding the foundation.. i think we need to expand for the same for basketball
I do think things have changed and its over broad roles of universities over 50 years
1. Vt has evolved into a broad national university with national footprint in r&d medicine and it/ engineering and business..with 30-35 k broad enrollment and campuses in dmv roanoke and hampton roads . Its simply not the small regional university of 1970. With that .. it cannot be ignored.
2. Vt athletics have grown tremendously as well; our rep is we tried hard; more passion and dedication but not as many big doners..we did wonderful and worked the big east for national pre-eminemce. All was for vt excellence.
3 joining the acc has been remarkable for vt as well as the acc. However, i feel many in leadership felt we succeeded and now its gravy.. we coasted and sustained because we are in the acc blanket.. we as an institution didn't have the drive and determination for national pre-eminence like we got during the big easf days.
4. I think athletics are beginning to realize its about vt achieving excellence first and if acc fits greaf. For football. Pry might be the besf fit on outreach and rebuilding the foundation.. i think we need to expand for the same for basketball
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4y
Confederation: an organization which consists of a number of parties or groups united in an alliance or league. "a confederation of trade unions"
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4y
different than a confederation among Native American tribes. Plus, no where in the definition does it state that the alliance has to be a strong one. Even a weak alliance can qualify as a confederation.
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4y
it’s an Alliance Agreement or Federation, but it’s not a Conference.
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4y
ND and Navy addition. That’s what I have been reading in all of these articles. The ACC needs to add ND to get a higher payout from ESPN.
Here is a creative win-win way to do it, if these two things are passed in the Division rules.
Here is a creative win-win way to do it, if these two things are passed in the Division rules.
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