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B1G Probably Finished in PAC

I think a lot can be gathered by looking at the past in relation to the future with expansion. Who would have thought Stanford, Washington State, Oregon State, would all be headed down the river to the G5 in 2024? Nobody would have predicted that a few years ago. I think one can tell the future to some extent in the ACC with that. I also keep hearing that FSU & Clemson don't currently even have P2 invites. Is that just because P2 plates are already full with all the changes coming in 2024? Are do the P2 have other concerns about further expansion? I think big changes are coming in college football that could be adding precautions with P2 further expansion. Media revenue being shared with football athletes as paid employees is that big change. It is going to massively cut into the revenue pie received with the P2 and literally all the major college athletic programs. That is going to further separate the Haves & Have Nots to a large degree. Will any conferences but the P2 even be able to compete with the athletes necessary to do so? Recruiting the better athletes for none P2 schools will become much tougher. I think all this may limit further expansion by the P2. More Stanford's in the ACC. As few schools as four could be taken. With the Big 12 being the bigger recipient of ACC schools just like with the PAC. Virginia Tech getting better in football in the next few years in the most favorable option. Not an impossible task. The Hokies were a very respected football program with Frank Beamer. The Hokies just need that type head coach. A smart coach with the X's & O's, along with being a good recruiter & motivator. That is all it takes all across the college football landscape. Just hard to find that type coach these days. Everybody wants nice guys that can entertain & handle themselves with the media & fans. Those qualities should not even matter.
Posted: 08/15/2023 at 03:11 PM ET
(In response to this post by icelus)

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We have at least another 5-7 years to get our football program back to the
icelus 08/15/23 03:13 AM ET
B1G Probably Finished in PAC
WarHog38 08/15/23 03:11 PM ET
Pry basically wasted last year at the worst time.**
marcbvtgm 08/15/23 08:58 PM ET
This is probably FSU & Clemson’s game plan for leaving the ACC
WBGV 08/15/23 02:00 PM ET
They could play the Dallas Cowboys in Doak and the ACC would own that game.**
hokieZ71 08/15/23 11:09 PM ET
Too many fantasies
mrcaniac 08/15/23 06:32 PM ET
Not a lawyer, so take this with that grain of salt they always talk about..
33laszlo99 08/15/23 07:03 PM ET
No acc school is voting to dissolve to go to the big 12. That's laughable
SpeakToDamien 08/15/23 04:34 PM ET
If schools start leaving, the ACC members will dissolve the conference.
WBGV 08/15/23 05:30 PM ET
PAC12 TV contract expires and ACC still have 13 years of GOR, huge
icelus 08/15/23 10:59 PM ET
No. If 4 leave, the remaining 10 aren't dissolving
SpeakToDamien 08/15/23 06:21 PM ET
Big money paid to those who stay behind
mrcaniac 08/15/23 06:45 PM ET
You do realize that.....
2hhoop3 08/15/23 02:26 PM ET
You do realize that . . . ,
WBGV 08/15/23 02:36 PM ET
You do not know.....
2hhoop3 08/15/23 02:41 PM ET
Why would it not be there?
WBGV 08/15/23 02:49 PM ET
I told you right .......
2hhoop3 08/15/23 02:53 PM ET
And I told you . . . .
WBGV 08/15/23 03:23 PM ET
You still don't read......
2hhoop3 08/15/23 03:45 PM ET
The composition clause is still in the ACC contract because it
WBGV 08/15/23 04:54 PM ET
As I told you before.....
2hhoop3 08/15/23 05:20 PM ET
Since none of us has ever seen either the original media deal or the update
33laszlo99 08/15/23 06:52 PM ET
You do not believe there are....
2hhoop3 08/15/23 07:14 PM ET
Are you claiming to have that direct knowledge?**
33laszlo99 08/15/23 07:17 PM ET
I have some direct knowledge......
2hhoop3 08/15/23 07:24 PM ET
Wait, he's a mountaineer? Then he is right. **
Big12 guy 08/15/23 07:38 PM ET
You would think that my “shadow” would know
WBGV 08/15/23 09:39 PM ET
Then why do you react with such venom when a poster disagrees with you?
33laszlo99 08/15/23 07:31 PM ET
I do not believe....
2hhoop3 08/15/23 07:42 PM ET
Alright then**
33laszlo99 08/15/23 07:51 PM ET
We can be #1 in the ACC by the time GOR ends**
MrBayAreaHokie 08/15/23 12:41 PM ET
*
WBGV 08/15/23 02:47 PM ET
Every year that passes means every ACC team’s chances of going P2 will
Femoyer Hokie 08/15/23 11:19 AM ET
What do you consider to be "on track"? If we are consistently a 6-8 win
VT ChemE 1986 08/15/23 10:51 AM ET
perennial 8+ wins and consistently top 4 in football in ACC. Not Coach
icelus 08/15/23 12:37 PM ET
Won't recruiting steadily go down?
HokieKick`nBack 08/15/23 07:24 AM ET
Also, the Portal is the elephant in the room. You sign and develop 3 stars
manassashoo 08/15/23 10:00 AM ET
If it takes eight to dissolve the conference, there will need to be eight
wwhokie1 08/15/23 08:52 AM ET
Depends on 2 things,
HokieKick`nBack 08/15/23 10:08 AM ET
I predict ESPN will go belly up financially well before the GOR
Maroon Unit 08/15/23 05:58 AM ET
While one should......
2hhoop3 08/15/23 02:35 PM ET
Maroon, I think it has been established that the GOR is between the ACC and
Femoyer Hokie 08/15/23 01:14 PM ET
I believe the GOR agreement was based on a presentation of revenue
Maroon Unit 08/15/23 02:45 PM ET
If ESPN sold the ACC contract to say, the CW, FSU would have a case, IMO.**
Truthahn 08/15/23 01:32 PM ET
Agree. If the revenue was off.**
Maroon Unit 08/15/23 02:47 PM ET
ESPN will eventually have to transition to a streaming service.
tarheelblue 08/15/23 11:12 AM ET
Dont hold your breath on that one**
HokieJamie 08/15/23 11:02 AM ET
You’re kidding me, right?
hokieZ71 08/15/23 06:38 AM ET
Our primary video is streaming (40+ age). We went with YTTV specifically
JohnsonCItyHokie 08/15/23 09:29 PM ET
Disney lost 300,000 domestic subscribers last quarter...
Old Line Hokie 08/15/23 08:04 AM ET
ESPN is spending now to lock in content for later.
hokieZ71 08/15/23 08:43 AM ET
I hope there comes a day when customers can pick and choose what they want
Old Line Hokie 08/15/23 11:29 AM ET
Frankly ESPN isn't spending that much money on the ACCN
EDGEMAN 08/15/23 08:41 AM ET
Thank you - I was getting ready to link some articles but you summarized
Maroon Unit 08/15/23 08:21 AM ET
Considering this NYT article, I don't think E$PN is going anywhere since
Lakeridgehokie 08/15/23 01:10 PM ET
Amen. ESPN remains the beast of sports media
Hokie1992 08/15/23 07:14 AM ET
I think they make it streaming with commercials
Nelsonia Hokie 08/15/23 01:04 PM ET