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ESPN is spending now to lock in content for later.
Forget the Disney angle. Disney is focused on making Disney+ and Hulu profitable and doesn’t have time for ESPN. And I mean, 300k subscribers is a fifth of a percent of Disney’s subscriber base. So they raise fees $3 a month and basically keep their subscriber rate steady? At 150M subscribers that’s a half billion extra per month in revenue. Win!
By the way, you know one reason Disney+ has been losing subscribers very recently? They lost the rights to the Indian Premier Cricket League. Honestly, they lost 2.4M subscribers for that. Hugely popular in India. (Massive market size over there btw…). Live sports is massively important….
Anyway, the same way the SEC and B1G are fighting for powerful brands to add to their conference lineup, ESPN and Fox are fighting for the best sports content to keep them as market leaders as cord cutting makes this shift to streaming a necessity. ESPN has to have something that people will pay to watch. This is why ESPN isn’t paying the Pac12 $300M a year for a single late night slot of west coast content. They are removing that from their books and shifting it to the SEC.
This is also why ESPN is probably super hot for the ACC to add Stanford and Cal to get a handful of late night content back on their schedule at a minimum of money. FSU, Clemson and UNC have basically said “No, you need to show us the money if you want that”. The Stanford/Cal thing isn’t over for this reason. FSU still wants money more than anything. If ESPN greases FSU and UNC’s palms enough, this will happen.
In the process of buying up the SEC, ESPN got outbid for the B1G by Fox, (who also overpaid for the B1G) but this also means that ESPN’s money is now primarily focused on the SEC and ACC instead of those two + B1G and Pac12 as well. So they are getting leaner and more focused but buying a large amount of content and locking it in. It takes a big investment to do that.
Thread Replies (56)
We have at least another 5-7 years to get our football program back to the
-- icelus
Aug 15, 2023 at 03:13 AM ET
icelus
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08/15/23 03:13 AM ET
B1G Probably Finished in PAC
-- WarHog38
Aug 15, 2023 at 03:11 PM ET
WarHog38
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08/15/23 03:11 PM ET
Pry basically wasted last year at the worst time.**
-- marcbvtgm
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:58 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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08/15/23 08:58 PM ET
This is probably FSU & Clemson’s game plan for leaving the ACC
-- WBGV
Aug 15, 2023 at 02:00 PM ET
WBGV
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08/15/23 02:00 PM ET
They could play the Dallas Cowboys in Doak and the ACC would own that game.**
-- hokieZ71
Aug 15, 2023 at 11:09 PM ET
hokieZ71
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08/15/23 11:09 PM ET
Not a lawyer, so take this with that grain of salt they always talk about..
-- 33laszlo99
Aug 15, 2023 at 07:03 PM ET
33laszlo99
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08/15/23 07:03 PM ET
No acc school is voting to dissolve to go to the big 12. That's laughable
-- SpeakToDamien
Aug 15, 2023 at 04:34 PM ET
SpeakToDamien
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08/15/23 04:34 PM ET
If schools start leaving, the ACC members will dissolve the conference.
-- WBGV
Aug 15, 2023 at 05:30 PM ET
WBGV
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08/15/23 05:30 PM ET
PAC12 TV contract expires and ACC still have 13 years of GOR, huge
-- icelus
Aug 15, 2023 at 10:59 PM ET
icelus
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08/15/23 10:59 PM ET
No. If 4 leave, the remaining 10 aren't dissolving
-- SpeakToDamien
Aug 15, 2023 at 06:21 PM ET
SpeakToDamien
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08/15/23 06:21 PM ET
Big money paid to those who stay behind
-- mrcaniac
Aug 15, 2023 at 06:45 PM ET
mrcaniac
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08/15/23 06:45 PM ET
The composition clause is still in the ACC contract because it
-- WBGV
Aug 15, 2023 at 04:54 PM ET
WBGV
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08/15/23 04:54 PM ET
Since none of us has ever seen either the original media deal or the update
-- 33laszlo99
Aug 15, 2023 at 06:52 PM ET
33laszlo99
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08/15/23 06:52 PM ET
You do not believe there are....
-- 2hhoop3
Aug 15, 2023 at 07:14 PM ET
2hhoop3
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08/15/23 07:14 PM ET
Are you claiming to have that direct knowledge?**
-- 33laszlo99
Aug 15, 2023 at 07:17 PM ET
33laszlo99
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08/15/23 07:17 PM ET
I have some direct knowledge......
-- 2hhoop3
Aug 15, 2023 at 07:24 PM ET
2hhoop3
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08/15/23 07:24 PM ET
Wait, he's a mountaineer? Then he is right. **
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2023 at 07:38 PM ET
Big12 guy
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08/15/23 07:38 PM ET
You would think that my “shadow” would know
-- WBGV
Aug 15, 2023 at 09:39 PM ET
WBGV
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08/15/23 09:39 PM ET
Then why do you react with such venom when a poster disagrees with you?
-- 33laszlo99
Aug 15, 2023 at 07:31 PM ET
33laszlo99
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08/15/23 07:31 PM ET
We can be #1 in the ACC by the time GOR ends**
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Aug 15, 2023 at 12:41 PM ET
MrBayAreaHokie
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08/15/23 12:41 PM ET
Every year that passes means every ACC team’s chances of going P2 will
-- Femoyer Hokie
Aug 15, 2023 at 11:19 AM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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08/15/23 11:19 AM ET
What do you consider to be "on track"? If we are consistently a 6-8 win
-- VT ChemE 1986
Aug 15, 2023 at 10:51 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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08/15/23 10:51 AM ET
perennial 8+ wins and consistently top 4 in football in ACC. Not Coach
-- icelus
Aug 15, 2023 at 12:37 PM ET
icelus
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08/15/23 12:37 PM ET
Won't recruiting steadily go down?
-- HokieKick`nBack
Aug 15, 2023 at 07:24 AM ET
HokieKick`nBack
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08/15/23 07:24 AM ET
Also, the Portal is the elephant in the room. You sign and develop 3 stars
-- manassashoo
Aug 15, 2023 at 10:00 AM ET
manassashoo
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08/15/23 10:00 AM ET
If it takes eight to dissolve the conference, there will need to be eight
-- wwhokie1
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:52 AM ET
wwhokie1
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08/15/23 08:52 AM ET
Depends on 2 things,
-- HokieKick`nBack
Aug 15, 2023 at 10:08 AM ET
HokieKick`nBack
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08/15/23 10:08 AM ET
I predict ESPN will go belly up financially well before the GOR
-- Maroon Unit
Aug 15, 2023 at 05:58 AM ET
Maroon Unit
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08/15/23 05:58 AM ET
Maroon, I think it has been established that the GOR is between the ACC and
-- Femoyer Hokie
Aug 15, 2023 at 01:14 PM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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08/15/23 01:14 PM ET
I believe the GOR agreement was based on a presentation of revenue
-- Maroon Unit
Aug 15, 2023 at 02:45 PM ET
Maroon Unit
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08/15/23 02:45 PM ET
If ESPN sold the ACC contract to say, the CW, FSU would have a case, IMO.**
-- Truthahn
Aug 15, 2023 at 01:32 PM ET
Truthahn
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08/15/23 01:32 PM ET
Agree. If the revenue was off.**
-- Maroon Unit
Aug 15, 2023 at 02:47 PM ET
Maroon Unit
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08/15/23 02:47 PM ET
ESPN will eventually have to transition to a streaming service.
-- tarheelblue
Aug 15, 2023 at 11:12 AM ET
tarheelblue
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08/15/23 11:12 AM ET
Dont hold your breath on that one**
-- HokieJamie
Aug 15, 2023 at 11:02 AM ET
HokieJamie
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08/15/23 11:02 AM ET
Our primary video is streaming (40+ age). We went with YTTV specifically
-- JohnsonCItyHokie
Aug 15, 2023 at 09:29 PM ET
JohnsonCItyHokie
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08/15/23 09:29 PM ET
Disney lost 300,000 domestic subscribers last quarter...
-- Old Line Hokie
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:04 AM ET
Old Line Hokie
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08/15/23 08:04 AM ET
ESPN is spending now to lock in content for later.
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-- hokieZ71
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:43 AM ET
hokieZ71
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08/15/23 08:43 AM ET
I hope there comes a day when customers can pick and choose what they want
-- Old Line Hokie
Aug 15, 2023 at 11:29 AM ET
Old Line Hokie
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08/15/23 11:29 AM ET
Frankly ESPN isn't spending that much money on the ACCN
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:41 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/15/23 08:41 AM ET
Thank you - I was getting ready to link some articles but you summarized
-- Maroon Unit
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:21 AM ET
Maroon Unit
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08/15/23 08:21 AM ET
Considering this NYT article, I don't think E$PN is going anywhere since
-- Lakeridgehokie
Aug 15, 2023 at 01:10 PM ET
Lakeridgehokie
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08/15/23 01:10 PM ET
Amen. ESPN remains the beast of sports media
-- Hokie1992
Aug 15, 2023 at 07:14 AM ET
Hokie1992
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08/15/23 07:14 AM ET
I think they make it streaming with commercials
-- Nelsonia Hokie
Aug 15, 2023 at 01:04 PM ET
Nelsonia Hokie
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08/15/23 01:04 PM ET