and not because it wouldn't expand, but because it wasn't going to attract anyone worth expanding with because it puts a terrible product on the field in football and a mediocre product on the field in men's basketball. Woo hoo, we have great baseball and softball and women's basketball....all of which cost money, not make money. The biggest problems are Miami, FSU and us. They have to be good/relevant, we need to be (along with at least a couple of GT/UNC/NCState for the conference to be credible. But every team I just listed has for the most part sucked for more than 5 of the last 8 years. For god sake, Pitt and Wake were in the conf championship game a year ago, why would anyone watch that crap. The biggest thing the ACC can do now is become relevant. Get some coaches that matter, not a bunch of no name, don't say the wrong thing, polite guys. We need a couple Lane Kiffin types who run their mouth and create press. Then put a decent product on the field (FSU, shut up and win a game once in a while). Kick ND around when real conference teams play them. Make people want to watch. Do that and ratings go up, revenue goes up and we quit being this bunch of whiny cry babies posting on message boards about how ESPN is not being fair to us because they like the SEC more. OF COURSE THEY DO, THE SEC MAKES THEM MORE F'N MONEY!!!!!! The SEC is exciting, is interesting, is better football, and not because ESPN pays them more (they've been all those things since long before ESPN paid them more), ESPN pays them more because they make ESPN more.