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PadrosWindup
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Judge sending House case agreement back for rework

Per Ross Dellenger: "The issue — the prohibition of third-party booster payments — resulted in a more than 30-minute discussion between the judge, NCAA counsel Kilaru and the plaintiff attorneys, mostly Kessler. The conversation centered around what is one of the biggest questions related to the settlement: How will the NCAA and power leagues prohibit and then police third-party booster payments to athletes? Such payments are happening now as boosters and booster-led collectives are distributing millions of dollars in salary-like payments to retain and recruit athletes, many of them disguised as commercial and endorsement deals. The settlement would potentially reduce or eliminate such payments, instead permitting schools to directly pay their athletes within a salary-cap system. However, Wilken suggested that such a move may limit the pay that athletes are currently receiving — some of them “large sums,” she said — and she expressed skepticism that the NCAA could enforce, or should enforce, its policy prohibiting “pay-for-play.” In one of the more shocking moments, Wilken appeared to acknowledge that she entered the hearing with the understanding that the settlement permitted “pay-for-play” from third-party entities. The NCAA's prohibition on pay-for-play is “not going to be there anymore, right?” she asked Kilaru in one of the hearing’s most jarring exchanges." IMHO, The judge is right about NCAA's ability to enforce any play-for pay rules. The "NIL must be NIL agreement" simply will never work. For all the talk about donor fatigue, her are plenty of donors who love having their Jerry Jones moments, throwing money around to attract talent to Dear Ole U. They have tasted it the last 2 years, and aren't about to give it up. Let these guys coordinate with the coaching staffs on who gets paid what, make sure there are binding contracts in place, and make sure taxes are withheld. Don't keep trying to limit what you have never been able to limit. ** Edited by PadrosWindup at 9/5/2024, 11:45:48 PM
Link: Ross in the House
Posted: 09/05/2024 at 11:45 PM ET

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PadrosWindup • 09/05/24 11:45 PM ET
I don't understand...can you opt out of this mess?
VictoryTurkey • 09/07/24 08:00 AM ET
Or make all collegiate sports DIII. Or like club sports.**
Atlee Hokie • 09/10/24 01:00 PM ET
Schools may have to no longer offer athletic scholarships and/or give up
VTHokie2000 • 09/07/24 08:05 AM ET
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Thanks for the update. Very interesting.**
jboyhokie • 09/06/24 01:06 PM ET
The judge kicked the legs out from under the value proposition the NCAA was
LeadingEdge • 09/06/24 12:19 AM ET
Yep. She correctly pointed out trying to pull back something the players
Femoyer Hokie • 09/06/24 07:12 AM ET
the problem is they will still be eligible for NIL, etc.
daveinop • 09/07/24 11:22 AM ET
True. But why is that a problem?**
Femoyer Hokie • 09/07/24 11:35 AM ET
the problem I'm referring to
daveinop • 09/08/24 01:48 PM ET
Have fun when they strike.
VPI 1924 • 09/06/24 03:27 PM ET
it's only a matter of time before it all goes over the edge**
HokieAl • 09/06/24 04:24 PM ET
That might actually be a good thing in the long run.**
FrederickHokie • 09/07/24 01:31 PM ET
If players do become employees, then could the eligibility window be the
VTHokie2000 • 09/06/24 12:59 PM ET
One can hope. I'd love to see Cartoons Plural in a VT uniform for life. TIC**
MP4VT2004 • 09/06/24 10:08 PM ET
That’s an ugly creature **
VPI 1924 • 09/07/24 01:19 PM ET
I doubt they'd be students any longer if they became employees.
Pylons • 09/06/24 06:28 PM ET
might be the only viable approach
daveinop • 09/06/24 12:57 PM ET
I wonder when the really important questions will be answered
VT ChemE 1986 • 09/06/24 10:11 AM ET
I think the answer to Title IX sets the stage to answer the others
Vienna_Hokie • 09/07/24 06:22 AM ET
Why would Title IX apply to "Employees..."?
Strider2 • 09/06/24 05:40 PM ET
Because Title IX is about gender equity in general at
Pylons • 09/06/24 06:34 PM ET
Title IX requires that funding is distributed in a way that creates equal
33laszlo99 • 09/06/24 06:13 PM ET
Would love to see that
VT ChemE 1986 • 09/07/24 02:53 PM ET
Title IX actually never even mentions sports.**
Pylons • 09/06/24 06:29 PM ET
It also doesn't say anything about scholarships or require equal numbers
Vienna_Hokie • 09/11/24 03:53 PM ET
Equitable, not equal.
Pylons • 09/11/24 04:21 PM ET
I've never read Title IX, Pylons. My only interest in it is how it comes
33laszlo99 • 09/06/24 10:00 PM ET
It also wouldn't require that every athlete be paid the same
Pylons • 09/07/24 10:27 AM ET
My original idea for equal pay across the board was to avoid the impossible
33laszlo99 • 09/09/24 08:38 PM ET
I get the simplicity goal........
2hhoop3 • 09/09/24 09:37 PM ET
The possibility of successfully evaluating the payment deserved by each
33laszlo99 • 09/10/24 12:03 PM ET
Agreed.......
2hhoop3 • 09/10/24 12:09 PM ET
I hear you...certainly nice in theory, but
Pylons • 09/09/24 09:22 PM ET
Right. If this becomes the solution, it will be because "the players" will
33laszlo99 • 09/10/24 11:56 AM ET
True. None of those things happens until this case is decided is the way
Femoyer Hokie • 09/06/24 10:34 AM ET