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VtotheT
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Utah/Arizona Buyers Remorse?

If Stanford and Cal are brought into the ACC, will Utah/Arizona have buyers remorse after committing to the Big12? On paper, ACC is currently in 3rd place for annual payouts and given the 2036 GOR the perception is that the ACC is stable through at least that date. (FSU begrudgingly has acknowledged this) The Big12 is hot right now but given it's spot in 4th place for payouts as well as the "catch-all conference" even with a TV rights renegotiation, they will still be open to poaching by bigger fish (SEC/BIG10) before the ACC. Academic prestige (Grants), ACC takes the cake, so again I wonder if Stanford/Cal are admitted, will Zona and Utah have buyer's remorse? Could they potentially jump ship on Big12 to form a West Coast pod. ** Edited by VtotheT at 8/8/2023, 10:16:16 AM
Posted: 08/08/2023 at 10:00 AM ET

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VtotheT • 08/08/23 10:00 AM ET
They'll probably have to wait until 2031 or so
HOO86 • 08/08/23 12:36 PM ET
ACC is 3rd in total conference payout, but 4th per school payout.
WBGV • 08/08/23 11:50 AM ET
Those numbers for PAC12 and Big12 are for the expiring contract.
HOO86 • 08/08/23 12:32 PM ET
note that those numbers are pre-OUTexit; ACC will be solid 3rd afterwards**
ren_hoek • 08/08/23 11:57 AM ET
The new TV contract actually increases for the Big 12 after UT & OU leave.
WBGV • 08/08/23 12:18 PM ET
Is the Big12 Renegotiating a new TV Contract post Pac12 pick-ups?
VtotheT • 08/08/23 01:09 PM ET
No need.....
2hhoop3 • 08/08/23 01:39 PM ET
Pro rata was negotiated into the contract, so the new schools
Big12 guy • 08/08/23 01:28 PM ET
Thanks- good to know. I wasn't an authority on BIG12 contract negotiations
VtotheT • 08/08/23 02:01 PM ET
The real numbers.......
2hhoop3 • 08/08/23 12:48 PM ET
simply. not. true.**
ren_hoek • 08/08/23 12:22 PM ET
Might not be what you want to hear, but it is true.**
WBGV • 08/08/23 12:26 PM ET
Actually, it is true. The new contract pays media money per school
Big12 guy • 08/08/23 12:25 PM ET
Link?**
hokieZ71 • 08/08/23 12:54 PM ET
Keep in mind, these are "reported numbers. **
Big12 guy • 08/08/23 01:05 PM ET
So, we are relatively tied, with postseason money being the kicker.
hokieZ71 • 08/08/23 02:16 PM ET
I think give or take, that is our future. **
Big12 guy • 08/08/23 02:33 PM ET
Probably, but those numbers include postseason disbursements. It's
Big12 guy • 08/08/23 12:00 PM ET
It all depends on the payout from the ACCN.**
WBGV • 08/08/23 12:19 PM ET
It's an advantage the ACC has, for sure. **
Big12 guy • 08/08/23 12:22 PM ET
that's, um, a pretty huge note. Big12 should be a clear 4th without UT & OU**
neworleanshoo • 08/08/23 12:00 PM ET
Should, could, and are will be determined. **
Big12 guy • 08/08/23 12:22 PM ET
I don’t think so - Utah / BYU as well as Arizona / ASU
Hokie12thman • 08/08/23 11:08 AM ET
ASU to the Big 12 is terrible
ScottsdaleHokie • 08/08/23 02:19 PM ET
Yes, I concur, but we got em good or bad. **
Big12 guy • 08/08/23 02:35 PM ET
I'm sure UA and the others explored coming to the ACC en masse.
Maroon Baboon • 08/08/23 11:07 AM ET
Similar situation to WVU going to Big 12 before ACC took Louisville.
Old Line Hokie • 08/08/23 11:05 AM ET
The ACC should have taken all 3 then. Take WVU and UCONN with Louisville.
OrlandoHokie • 08/08/23 12:00 PM ET
Another way of looking at this
Millpoint • 08/08/23 11:45 AM ET
Please ignore this post.**
Millpoint • 08/08/23 12:15 PM ET
Utah and Arizona will be just fine
obguthr • 08/08/23 10:59 AM ET
doubtful at best. I think the Big XII looks pretty good with the add-ons.**
reestuart • 08/08/23 10:46 AM ET
Agreed
Pylons • 08/08/23 11:05 AM ET
Conference membership means nothing for research grants
Pylons • 08/08/23 10:11 AM ET
Maybe
Big12 guy • 08/08/23 10:08 AM ET