He goes in depth about all the P5. He thinks that the ACC is in a period of stability and safety. ESPN is working with the ACC on things to add value. And he indicates that the ACC is the basketball league for ESPN way ahead of peer conferences. And he reiterates that the time ESPN think about market size pales in comparison to Rivalries. Maybe he's been reading here. The excitement around Rivalries drive college sports. He doesn't think there will be a P2. He thinks the P5 will continue to thrive. He was shocked a bit to see USC/UCLA join the Midwest brand due to geography. He comes on at the 25 minute mark and talks about the Big Ten and SEC. Then he talks about the ACC at the 50 minute mark. It's an interesting listen.