I have answered several times. You continue to state that adding those
three schools bought the ACC time. This is false. The teams that were thinking of leaving the league did not want those teams added. Two of them even voted against it. This is a *FACT*.
Another point - doing nothing (re: adding teams) was absolutely an option and IMHO (that is an *OPINION*) a much better one than adding three teams no one cares about watching.
The reason the lawsuit was dropped was because they renegotiated the time schools could leave with a more reasonable exit fee and push when teams could retain their media rights from 2036 back to 2030. I enlisted my friend Grok to provide several articles that stated this. Adding SMU / Stanford / Cal had nothing *AT ALL* to do with the lawsuits getting dropped:
FROM GROK:
Yes, I can provide information based on news articles that discuss the reasons behind Florida State University (FSU) and Clemson University dropping their lawsuits against the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC), specifically highlighting the connection to the ability for teams to leave the league by 2030. The settlement included a revised revenue distribution model and a reduced exit fee structure, which made it feasible for schools to exit the conference by 2030, addressing key concerns raised in the lawsuits.
Relevant News Articles and Details
ACC Settlement with Clemson and Florida State Provides Stability Now, Uncertainty in 2030
Source: Sports Business Journal, March 5, 2025
Details: The article notes that the settlement between the ACC, FSU, and Clemson included an agreement for "uneven revenue distribution tied to competitive success" and a "diminishing exit fee." It suggests that the ACC "kept itself together and signaled its 2030 breakup date," as the exit fee drops to $75 million by the 2030-31 season. This reduced fee and the clarity on retaining media rights were key factors in resolving the lawsuits, as they addressed FSU and Clemson's desire for a clear and affordable exit path.
ACC Settlement Opens Door for Clemson and Florida State to Leave Conference in 2030
Source: College Sports Wire (USA Today), March 4, 2025
Details: The article explicitly states that the settlement "preserves the league for now" but makes it easier for FSU and Clemson to leave in 2030 due to lowered financial penalties for exiting. The exit fee is reduced significantly by 2030, aligning with the expiration of major television contracts for other conferences (e.g., Big Ten, Big 12), which could trigger further realignment. The settlement resolved the lawsuits by addressing the exit fee and media rights issues that FSU and Clemson contested.
ACC, Florida State, Clemson Agree to End Legal Battles. Has Realignment Peace Arrived?
Source: The Athletic, March 4, 2025
Details: The article confirms that the lawsuits were dropped after the ACC, FSU, and Clemson agreed on a settlement that clarified the cost to leave the conference: $165 million in 2026, decreasing by $18 million annually to $75 million by 2030-31. This structured exit fee schedule, along with schools retaining their media rights upon leaving, was a primary reason for ending the legal disputes, as it gave FSU and Clemson the flexibility they sought to potentially exit by 2030.
Settlement in ACC Lawsuit a 'Win, Win, Win' for Florida State Athletics
Source: Tallahassee Democrat, March 5, 2025
Details: The article highlights that FSU dropped its lawsuit because the settlement introduced a new revenue-distribution model and a reduced exit fee, starting at $165 million and dropping to $75 million by 2030-31. This addressed FSU’s concerns about financial competitiveness and the prohibitive cost of leaving the ACC, which was previously estimated at up to $600 million due to the grant of rights.
Why Clemson Decided to End Its Lawsuit and Remain in the ACC
Source: USA Today, March 4, 2025
Details: The article explains that Clemson and FSU settled their lawsuits because the agreement clarified media rights ownership and reduced the exit fee to $75 million by 2030-31. This resolution met Clemson’s litigation goals, including establishing a feasible exit strategy, which was a significant factor in dropping the lawsuits.
Posts on X
Source: X posts, March-April 2025
Details: Several posts on X reflect public sentiment about the settlement. For example, @Andy_Staples
noted that the lawsuits were settled because the ACC established a clear exit fee number that decreases annually, achieving FSU and Clemson’s goal of a defined exit path by 2030. Another post by @NoleGIFs
emphasized that FSU reduced the exit fee from $500 million to under $100 million and moved the exit date from 2036 to 2030, framing it as a major win. These posts, while not authoritative, corroborate the news articles’ focus on the exit fee reduction as a key reason for dropping the lawsuits.
Summary of Reasons
The lawsuits between FSU, Clemson, and the ACC were dropped primarily because the settlement addressed the core issues raised by FSU and Clemson:
Reduced Exit Fees: The exit fee was set at $165 million for 2026, decreasing by $18 million annually to $75 million by 2030-31, making it financially viable for schools to leave the ACC by 2030.
Media Rights Clarity: Schools leaving the ACC would retain their media rights, resolving disputes over the grant of rights that previously bound schools to the conference until 2036.
Revenue Distribution: A new model was introduced to reward high-performing programs (like FSU and Clemson) with increased revenue, addressing their concerns about financial competitiveness compared to SEC and Big Ten schools.
These changes provided FSU and Clemson with a clear and affordable path to potentially leave the ACC by 2030, aligning with the expiration of major television contracts and anticipated conference realignment opportunities. The settlement thus resolved the legal disputes by meeting the schools’ demands for flexibility and financial fairness.
Note
The information provided is based on the referenced news articles and posts on X, which consistently highlight the exit fee reduction and media rights clarity as central to the settlement. If you need specific excerpts or further analysis of any article, please let me know!
Thread Replies (128)
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-- Stech
Apr 27, 2025 at 09:44 AM ET
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04/27/25 09:44 AM ET
The wildcard in all the $ insanity is….
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Apr 29, 2025 at 08:02 AM ET
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04/29/25 08:02 AM ET
more from Zuck on X**
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Apr 29, 2025 at 05:17 PM ET
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04/29/25 05:17 PM ET
My wife and I are already having this debate for our kids
-- HokieAl
Apr 29, 2025 at 09:35 AM ET
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04/29/25 09:35 AM ET
Not a kid, but I talked with a former Navy aircraft electrician (AE) who...
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 30, 2025 at 04:55 PM ET
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04/30/25 04:55 PM ET
Getting an associate's degree from a Virginia CC is an inexpensive way...
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 29, 2025 at 01:40 PM ET
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04/29/25 01:40 PM ET
It won't be long before CC costs start going up dramatically. Just read an
-- HokieToph
Apr 30, 2025 at 10:33 AM ET
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04/30/25 10:33 AM ET
Make everyone enroll in person!
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 30, 2025 at 01:14 PM ET
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04/30/25 01:14 PM ET
Successful people do what they love doing! Engineers that hate engineering
-- Stech
Apr 29, 2025 at 11:12 AM ET
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04/29/25 11:12 AM ET
One of my HS and VT friends was studying Chemical Engineering, and...
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 29, 2025 at 12:35 PM ET
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04/29/25 12:35 PM ET
Don't know if he said it out loud, or wrote it on his test paper he...
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 30, 2025 at 09:07 AM ET
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04/30/25 09:07 AM ET
Yep I had my kids do a book called Be What You Are in Middle School. GPA⬆️
-- Stech
Apr 29, 2025 at 12:57 PM ET
Stech
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04/29/25 12:57 PM ET
Let that be their motivation to shut up the doubters!
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 29, 2025 at 01:22 PM ET
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04/29/25 01:22 PM ET
the truth is though....
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Apr 29, 2025 at 11:30 AM ET
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04/29/25 11:30 AM ET
Big organizations are often built on Followship not Leadership, I have
-- Stech
Apr 29, 2025 at 12:38 PM ET
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04/29/25 12:38 PM ET
Had a friend who was studying "Building Construction" at VT back...
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 29, 2025 at 12:42 PM ET
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04/29/25 12:42 PM ET
I'm a VT BC grad. Really enjoyed the program.**
-- MP4VT2004
Apr 29, 2025 at 01:34 PM ET
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04/29/25 01:34 PM ET
I thought that degree was brilliant! Way to go VT!**
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 29, 2025 at 01:36 PM ET
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04/29/25 01:36 PM ET
Yes I referred to it in another post, I ❤️ they created that major, do more
-- Stech
Apr 29, 2025 at 01:05 PM ET
Stech
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04/29/25 01:05 PM ET
If VT has "studies" majors, they can create something useful like...
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 29, 2025 at 01:26 PM ET
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04/29/25 01:26 PM ET
I love what your relative did, changed his life and his students, don’t be
-- Stech
Apr 29, 2025 at 01:39 PM ET
Stech
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04/29/25 01:39 PM ET
The numbers are way up @ some schools (Virginia Tech) & way down for others
-- Stech
Apr 29, 2025 at 08:18 AM ET
Stech
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04/29/25 08:18 AM ET
LOL I thought this post was about UNC spending 10’s of millions on 🏈, but
-- Stech
Apr 28, 2025 at 09:33 PM ET
Stech
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04/28/25 09:33 PM ET
Sue Estroff must be really clutching her pearls right now.**
-- MP4VT2004
Apr 28, 2025 at 01:24 PM ET
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04/28/25 01:24 PM ET
This is the interesting thing, the tale is wagging the dog, Academics dwarf
-- Stech
Apr 28, 2025 at 02:16 PM ET
Stech
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04/28/25 02:16 PM ET
Interesting that they see UNC as different from SEC type schools
-- Sunsetunderground
Apr 28, 2025 at 12:52 PM ET
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04/28/25 12:52 PM ET
Don't underestimate the concern over potential lost research & overhead $$
-- marcbvtgm
Apr 28, 2025 at 09:45 AM ET
marcbvtgm
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04/28/25 09:45 AM ET
Does a school that transfers academic funds to athletics sound like...
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 28, 2025 at 07:07 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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04/28/25 07:07 AM ET
As I have said in previous posts, UNC has made a high risk gamble
-- tarheelblue
Apr 27, 2025 at 03:44 PM ET
tarheelblue
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04/27/25 03:44 PM ET
I take the part back that UNC can’t lose with Belichick after reading this.
-- Stech
May 01, 2025 at 09:01 AM ET
Stech
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05/01/25 09:01 AM ET
It's definitely a bad look, but I don't see how they can fire him.
-- tarheelblue
May 02, 2025 at 01:40 AM ET
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05/02/25 01:40 AM ET
Agreed, it’s hard to believe they will do it, but at a minimum this will be
-- Stech
May 02, 2025 at 09:14 PM ET
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05/02/25 09:14 PM ET
Hopefully it at least increases the ratings for UNC football games.**
-- tarheelblue
May 02, 2025 at 09:56 PM ET
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05/02/25 09:56 PM ET
Probably will, still don’t understand how🐭🦊 don’t get in state rivalry
-- Stech
May 03, 2025 at 09:27 AM ET
Stech
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05/03/25 09:27 AM ET
So much is at stake right now, not just P2 expansion, but unequal sharing &
-- Stech
Apr 30, 2025 at 03:33 PM ET
Stech
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04/30/25 03:33 PM ET
Institutional investment in the publics will separate the
-- Big12 guy
Apr 27, 2025 at 10:36 AM ET
Big12 guy
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04/27/25 10:36 AM ET
NASCAR due to ESPN emphasizing well known teams stacked the sponsorship 🃏
-- Stech
Apr 27, 2025 at 11:38 AM ET
Stech
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04/27/25 11:38 AM ET
I was referring to the establishment, the State, and the other
-- Big12 guy
Apr 27, 2025 at 11:55 AM ET
Big12 guy
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04/27/25 11:55 AM ET
I watched the Virginia Tech applications blow up in the 90’s w/ BCS Bowls,
-- Stech
Apr 27, 2025 at 01:35 PM ET
Stech
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04/27/25 01:35 PM ET
Do you know what else happened in the 90's? Growth of the internet
-- HokieAl
Apr 28, 2025 at 09:57 AM ET
HokieAl
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04/28/25 09:57 AM ET
It was more than football success, I’m tired of saying that, but there is a
-- Stech
Apr 28, 2025 at 11:52 AM ET
Stech
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04/28/25 11:52 AM ET
Weren't we independent in football before Big East?
-- HokieAl
Apr 28, 2025 at 01:05 PM ET
HokieAl
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04/28/25 01:05 PM ET
We became an independent after the Southern Conference...
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 29, 2025 at 12:38 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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04/29/25 12:38 PM ET
Dr. Torgersen was president until 2000
-- Pylons
Apr 28, 2025 at 01:21 PM ET
Pylons
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04/28/25 01:21 PM ET
Application growth isn't a football thing
-- Pylons
Apr 27, 2025 at 04:16 PM ET
Pylons
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04/27/25 04:16 PM ET
This has been found to be true in recent data collection:
-- VTFan29
Apr 28, 2025 at 12:31 PM ET
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04/28/25 12:31 PM ET
We got n the Big East 🏈 n th early nineties, we started going to Bowls too
-- Stech
Apr 28, 2025 at 07:32 AM ET
Stech
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04/28/25 07:32 AM ET
Explain the "correlation" in the last decade
-- Pylons
Apr 28, 2025 at 08:52 AM ET
Pylons
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04/28/25 08:52 AM ET
Your whole post wreaks of arrogance as usual, the only thing laughable is
-- Stech
Apr 28, 2025 at 11:44 AM ET
Stech
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04/28/25 11:44 AM ET
I know it's opinion and not fact, I'm just confident in it
-- Pylons
Apr 28, 2025 at 12:14 PM ET
Pylons
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04/28/25 12:14 PM ET
Haha, no, it's none of that,
-- Big12 guy
Apr 28, 2025 at 02:05 PM ET
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04/28/25 02:05 PM ET
Glad you said it's an opinion, your laughable comment was insulting and
-- Stech
Apr 28, 2025 at 02:04 PM ET
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04/28/25 02:04 PM ET
What I also find interesting is that it's occurring as the number of HS
-- anotherdamnyankeehokie
Apr 27, 2025 at 10:05 PM ET
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04/27/25 10:05 PM ET
Cincinnati Languished in the 30,000 some odd enrollment
-- Big12 guy
Apr 27, 2025 at 05:48 PM ET
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04/27/25 05:48 PM ET
Cincy has almost 10k online students counted in that enrollment
-- Pylons
Apr 27, 2025 at 07:18 PM ET
Pylons
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04/27/25 07:18 PM ET
I pulled Cincy as an example, with about
-- Big12 guy
Apr 27, 2025 at 10:10 PM ET
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04/27/25 10:10 PM ET
I'm not saying online students count less,
-- Pylons
Apr 27, 2025 at 10:36 PM ET
Pylons
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04/27/25 10:36 PM ET
For the health of their athletics?????? Since the beginning
-- Big12 guy
Apr 28, 2025 at 06:13 AM ET
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04/28/25 06:13 AM ET
"Primarily for academic reasons"? no, I
-- Big12 guy
Apr 28, 2025 at 09:36 AM ET
Big12 guy
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04/28/25 09:36 AM ET
What is the source of the money that's going down the drain?
-- Pylons
Apr 28, 2025 at 09:47 AM ET
Pylons
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04/28/25 09:47 AM ET
OK, I'll respect your opinion, but
-- Big12 guy
Apr 28, 2025 at 09:58 AM ET
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04/28/25 09:58 AM ET
What academic reputation does SMU have?
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 27, 2025 at 06:44 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/27/25 06:44 PM ET
Give or take SMU's academic reputation is basically the same as VT's
-- marcbvtgm
Apr 28, 2025 at 09:47 AM ET
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04/28/25 09:47 AM ET
Virginia Tech's USNW ranked 51 & SMU 91, now if you want to talk oil money,
-- Stech
Apr 28, 2025 at 02:21 PM ET
Stech
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04/28/25 02:21 PM ET
This isn’t a Rivalry Board, trash talking schools isn’t tolerated here, it
-- Stech
Apr 28, 2025 at 08:28 AM ET
Stech
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04/28/25 08:28 AM ET
SMU is ranked only above Louisville, but
-- mrcaniac
Apr 27, 2025 at 07:30 PM ET
mrcaniac
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04/27/25 07:30 PM ET
Clemson before or after they started "gaming" the rating system?
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 28, 2025 at 04:16 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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04/28/25 04:16 AM ET
Ouch. That wasn't the point I was trying to make, but
-- Big12 guy
Apr 27, 2025 at 06:51 PM ET
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04/27/25 06:51 PM ET
Sorry - I just think taking SMU into the ACC was a really poor
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 27, 2025 at 07:17 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/27/25 07:17 PM ET
Look - I just don’t care about playing SMU, Cal, or Stanford
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 27, 2025 at 08:37 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/27/25 08:37 PM ET
There’s a difference between dislike and disinterest
-- Tailgate Guru
Apr 28, 2025 at 01:41 AM ET
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04/28/25 01:41 AM ET
Ah, I see we're still perpetuating the line of BS-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Apr 28, 2025 at 12:26 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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04/28/25 12:26 PM ET
Thank you - you said it better than me**
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 28, 2025 at 06:54 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/28/25 06:54 AM ET
After going through year one with these three schools
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 27, 2025 at 10:18 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/27/25 10:18 PM ET
All I ask is that you start taking revenue sports seriously, like we are.**
-- SMU Pony
Apr 27, 2025 at 08:40 PM ET
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04/27/25 08:40 PM ET
We won a national title in basketball in 2019, made the NCAA tourney 9 out
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 27, 2025 at 08:50 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/27/25 08:50 PM ET
You're talking about the Hoos. This a Hokie Board.
-- HOO86
Apr 27, 2025 at 11:47 PM ET
HOO86
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04/27/25 11:47 PM ET
I don't even see any posts from you on The Sabre. Where are you from?
-- HOO86
Apr 28, 2025 at 12:09 AM ET
HOO86
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04/28/25 12:09 AM ET
I’ve been posting on thesabre since the website was virginiafootball.com
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 28, 2025 at 07:02 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/28/25 07:02 AM ET
Then I ask once more. What was/is your better plan for saving the ACC?**
-- Atlee Hokie
Apr 28, 2025 at 09:12 AM ET
Atlee Hokie
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04/28/25 09:12 AM ET
That is a great question and one that is hard to answer
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 28, 2025 at 10:54 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/28/25 10:54 AM ET
What would you have done.......
-- 2hhoop3
Apr 27, 2025 at 08:12 PM ET
2hhoop3
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04/27/25 08:12 PM ET
Those three schools are nothing more than mouths to feed
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 27, 2025 at 08:47 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/27/25 08:47 PM ET
They were added because Notre Dame pushed for them & Jim “Dame” Phillips
-- Stech
Apr 28, 2025 at 03:27 PM ET
Stech
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04/28/25 03:27 PM ET
Where is FSU gone to?**
-- MrFantastic!
Apr 29, 2025 at 06:36 AM ET
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04/29/25 06:36 AM ET
IMHO probably the B1G, but unequal sharing will likely prolong it until the
-- Stech
Apr 29, 2025 at 07:01 AM ET
Stech
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04/29/25 07:01 AM ET
Maybe, a P1 when one of the P2 Commissioners retires is possible too.
-- Stech
Apr 29, 2025 at 08:02 AM ET
Stech
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04/29/25 08:02 AM ET
Listen. When the current expires, the ACC is going to implode anyway.
-- Atlee Hokie
Apr 28, 2025 at 12:44 AM ET
Atlee Hokie
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04/28/25 12:44 AM ET
He said revenue sports. Everyone knows football is king
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 27, 2025 at 10:21 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/27/25 10:21 PM ET
OK omnipotent one - explain to me how adding these three schools
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 28, 2025 at 11:30 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/28/25 11:30 AM ET
Just stop, man. He will do this all day. He will reply 100 times.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Apr 28, 2025 at 12:34 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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04/28/25 12:34 PM ET
Agreed - I follow all of this stuff very closely (why I enjoy this board)
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 28, 2025 at 01:04 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/28/25 01:04 PM ET
I have already explained......
-- 2hhoop3
Apr 28, 2025 at 11:51 AM ET
2hhoop3
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04/28/25 11:51 AM ET
I'm confused?
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 28, 2025 at 12:52 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/28/25 12:52 PM ET
There was no immediate implosion forthcoming. That is where you are wrong.
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 28, 2025 at 01:01 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/28/25 01:01 PM ET
I have answered several times. You continue to state that adding those
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-- Brother Griswold
Apr 28, 2025 at 02:05 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/28/25 02:05 PM ET
The settlement would have come with our without the additional revenue from
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 28, 2025 at 02:42 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/28/25 02:42 PM ET
This is so dumb. Please stop perpetuating this completely wrong line.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Apr 28, 2025 at 12:46 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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04/28/25 12:46 PM ET
I've said many times on here that the correct move-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Apr 28, 2025 at 02:50 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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04/28/25 02:50 PM ET
I'm saying, were the decision entirely up to me, and I was making the-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Apr 28, 2025 at 03:37 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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04/28/25 03:37 PM ET
It wasn't vague. It means exactly what it said:
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Apr 29, 2025 at 09:34 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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04/29/25 09:34 AM ET
I stand with Baltimore Hokie on this one - the correct answer was to do
-- Brother Griswold
Apr 28, 2025 at 03:10 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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04/28/25 03:10 PM ET
LOL, rent free. I think the number of likes on my posts, and the fact-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Apr 28, 2025 at 03:44 PM ET
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04/28/25 03:44 PM ET