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2hhoop3
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The original topic for this subthread......

was the question of why ND has not been forced to join a P4 and the resident ND apologist asked the question whether it was a weird concept that an institution would be forced to join a voluntary organization and the Ala carte concept was introduced within that discussion.
Posted: 03/14/2025 at 10:49 PM ET
(In response to this post by wwhokie1)

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If Clemson and fsu get P2 (or better) money in the ACC, VT could be in
VT757to276 • 03/13/25 08:20 AM ET
Nobody knows, things constantly changing, 🔮 more future changes, brilliant
Stech • 03/15/25 08:26 PM ET
Tech is not going anywhere!!
RiverVT • 03/14/25 06:04 PM ET
Zero leadership
OGHookie • 03/17/25 08:50 PM ET
-12,859**
ancient alien 2018 • 03/17/25 10:48 AM ET
Honestly, I think that has been their plan all along.
VT ChemE 1986 • 03/15/25 10:53 AM ET
What if complete honestly says, "This is big media's setup for CFB and we
VTCALS72 • 03/17/25 12:56 PM ET
100% Agree. VT will get what it richly deserves, G5 status. I’m sure
Poultrygeist • 03/15/25 09:21 AM ET
Hope he doesn’t pay those *******s!**
VPI 1924 • 03/15/25 12:38 PM ET
What happens to Clemson, F$U & Miami's "ND game advantage" if ND heads...
EDGEMAN • 03/13/25 08:34 AM ET
Why do people think that ND wants to be in the Big10?
mrcaniac • 03/13/25 01:05 PM ET
What I suspect will be the endgame for realignment
mancunian • 03/14/25 11:10 AM ET
Unless the "P2" gets an antitrust exemption from Congress
mrcaniac • 03/14/25 01:50 PM ET
WRT to your statement "any team wanting to be a part of it will be able to"
VTHokie2000 • 03/14/25 06:06 PM ET
NCAA's record in court is poor at best
mrcaniac • 03/14/25 10:53 PM ET
Liberty would have no grounds to sue the NCAA though because religious
VTHokie2000 • 03/14/25 11:24 PM ET
ND has worked tirelessly for at least 35 years ......
TerryD • 03/13/25 01:34 PM ET
Conversely, what if they concluded they'd make => money in the ACC
VT757to276 • 03/13/25 09:01 AM ET
ND has strongly disliked the Big Ten for 120 years
TerryD • 03/13/25 01:10 PM ET
I have very similar feelings about the ACC.**
hok1eboy • 03/14/25 06:05 PM ET
Are you suggesting that if Notre Dame was forced to pick a P2 conference
VTHokie2000 • 03/13/25 06:39 PM ET
If they had to pick a football conference today, would it not be the ACC?
seekoHoG • 03/14/25 08:05 PM ET
Not if the P2 ended up doing its own thing (think AFL-NFL type merger) and
VTHokie2000 • 03/14/25 08:25 PM ET
Not suggesting anything
TerryD • 03/14/25 06:28 AM ET
Wonder why they went in Hockey? With the hatred**
MrFantastic! • 03/14/25 10:26 AM ET
The hate is there when it suits them.**
reestuart • 03/14/25 11:25 AM ET
Who cares about hockey in CR ?
TerryD • 03/14/25 11:57 AM ET
For the record
TerryD • 03/14/25 12:01 PM ET
Your answer was my thinking
MrFantastic! • 03/15/25 09:24 AM ET
No, the Big Ten gave in
TerryD • 03/15/25 06:52 PM ET
ND gave in also
MrFantastic! • 03/16/25 04:53 AM ET
ND has turned down full Big Ten...
TerryD • 03/15/25 07:00 PM ET
Hard core. #Respect 👊
Maroon Baboon • 03/14/25 04:41 PM ET
Great insight! I always felt that there was a rub/grudge, but did not know
VT757to276 • 03/13/25 01:21 PM ET
They have written books about it**
TerryD • 03/14/25 06:51 AM ET
ND just made title game as Indy and kept all the $$. Why would they go P2?**
drb • 03/13/25 08:37 AM ET
Only if they're forced to do it...**
EDGEMAN • 03/13/25 08:44 AM ET
I still don't understand why they haven't been forced
HokieNoVA • 03/13/25 09:15 AM ET
You don't think that it's a weird concept...
TerryD • 03/13/25 01:37 PM ET
Is it any more weird.......
2hhoop3 • 03/13/25 01:46 PM ET
In other words, other than football, they've had a parasitic
ancient alien 2018 • 03/15/25 12:55 AM ET
I would say.....
2hhoop3 • 03/15/25 02:05 PM ET
ND benefitted much more than ACC did.
Atlee Hokie • 03/15/25 04:01 PM ET
You are correct....
2hhoop3 • 03/15/25 04:20 PM ET
Some have suggested no ACC Network without ND, it was long ago, so I can’t
Stech • 03/16/25 12:17 PM ET
So, conferences aren't voluntary things at all ?**
TerryD • 03/13/25 02:43 PM ET
That wasn't the question.......
2hhoop3 • 03/13/25 02:57 PM ET
It was indeed my question
TerryD • 03/14/25 06:30 AM ET
Do you consider the Big East, excluding football, to be the equivalent ...
Atlee Hokie • 03/15/25 05:56 PM ET
I understand what your....
2hhoop3 • 03/14/25 07:41 AM ET
No conferences has ever truly been full service.
wwhokie1 • 03/13/25 05:35 PM ET
Wichita State is not a valid comparison to Notre Dame for simple fact that
VTHokie2000 • 03/13/25 06:36 PM ET
You are missing my point. I am not comparing Wichita St To ND. I am
wwhokie1 • 03/14/25 06:16 PM ET
Even if that is the point you are trying to make, Wichita State is still
VTHokie2000 • 03/14/25 06:24 PM ET
Miami was in the Big East....
TerryD • 03/14/25 07:39 PM ET
Yes, that is 1 example. I will say that the decision may have had to do
VTHokie2000 • 03/14/25 08:07 PM ET
You tell me
TerryD • 03/15/25 06:32 AM ET
You make a fair point about Notre Dame's record against the ACC. However,
VTHokie2000 • 03/15/25 11:12 AM ET
AAC could have looked at Wichita St. and said, "you don't have football so
wwhokie1 • 03/14/25 06:44 PM ET
It is relevant though because you won't be able to show an example where
VTHokie2000 • 03/14/25 06:57 PM ET
You've strayed from the original discussion. The original discussion
wwhokie1 • 03/14/25 10:26 PM ET
Then we will have to agree to disagree because I believe my points are
VTHokie2000 • 03/14/25 10:58 PM ET
When you talk about conferences allowing a school to join sports A la cart,
wwhokie1 • 03/14/25 11:38 PM ET
The subthread is talking about Notre Dame's unique relationship with the
VTHokie2000 • 03/15/25 10:45 AM ET
Actually, my initial comment was in response to the following post:
wwhokie1 • 03/15/25 11:59 AM ET
The part you seem to be either missing or ignoring is the fact that the ACC
VTHokie2000 • 03/15/25 12:50 PM ET
The original topic for this subthread...... ◄
2hhoop3 • 03/14/25 10:49 PM ET
I don't know. Based on their media
Big12 guy • 03/13/25 02:39 PM ET
That was the question asked.........
2hhoop3 • 03/13/25 03:00 PM ET
How exactly does anyone force them to forfeit their football independence?**
Pylons • 03/13/25 11:38 AM ET
Schools don’t have to play them
MAGRIFF1 • 03/13/25 06:03 PM ET
Playoffs only include conference champions/runners up.
hokieZ71 • 03/13/25 01:08 PM ET
Those 3 conferences and the CFP will be writing a very large check to ND
mrcaniac • 03/13/25 02:22 PM ET
Exclude them from the playoffs.**
HokieNoVA • 03/13/25 12:34 PM ET
Legal? Anti-Trust violation ?
TerryD • 03/13/25 01:04 PM ET
May be?
mrcaniac • 03/13/25 01:14 PM ET
I was being diplomatic
TerryD • 03/13/25 02:28 PM ET
It may not be a violation of antitrust laws if the P2 conferences end up
VTHokie2000 • 03/13/25 06:46 PM ET
There are message board speculation and legal ramifications
mrcaniac • 03/13/25 02:36 PM ET
G5 schools aren't restricted from dropping down to the FCS.
hokieZ71 • 03/13/25 01:13 PM ET
Maybe, no idea.**
HokieNoVA • 03/13/25 01:06 PM ET
The SEC nor the ACC want them to join the B1G. So they don't mind keeping
Maroon Baboon • 03/13/25 09:54 AM ET
Ok, so its about keeping them out of the B10. That makes way more sense
HokieNoVA • 03/13/25 10:33 AM ET