I think there is another option and a better one than those 2
And it is somewhat like the ACC and the B12 merging. It is for the new PAC, Ba2 and ACC trade teams to have an eastern, middle and western conference in what I call the little P3. And no, the leagues do not have to have 15-18 teams. In fact since doing this could create all new rules, allow these 3 to be no larger than 12 teams each.
So an ACC minus the supposed Big 4 would be:
VT
UVA
Pitt
NCSU
Duke
Lville
G T
Cuse
Cincy
WVU
Central Fla
South Fla
BE and Wake would drop down.
B12 would give up the western 4 and the ACC Calford to round out the PAC
B12 would give up UCF, WVU and Cincy to the ACC and get SMU and add Tulane if necessary.
This model would go hard to get the local and regional advertisers like car dealerships small businesses etc and maybe even produce their own content and stream it out to the networks to either put out with or without adding their own color guys.
Then those 36 or so schools would do across conference scheduling so no teams have to go play a Woffard. Screw the P2 in this setup let them go play with themselves.
Thread Replies (50)
Future conference opponents playing at noon on ESPN…
-- ombandit
Aug 23, 2025 at 10:18 AM ET
ombandit
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08/23/25 10:18 AM ET
I'd prefer if the ACC and B12 survived with just olympic sports
-- HokieAl
Aug 24, 2025 at 12:41 PM ET
HokieAl
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08/24/25 12:41 PM ET
I tend to agree. And I don't think it would be a bad place to be.**
-- Atlee Hokie
Aug 23, 2025 at 10:03 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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08/23/25 10:03 PM ET
I do because if that happens
-- VTCALS72
Aug 24, 2025 at 05:05 AM ET
VTCALS72
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08/24/25 05:05 AM ET
"If" UVA is a P-2 school, they'll have a huge advantage....
-- Old Line Hokie
Aug 24, 2025 at 10:25 PM ET
Old Line Hokie
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08/24/25 10:25 PM ET
Oh well, it will beat being in the AAC or SunBelt **
-- HokiesACC2004
Aug 24, 2025 at 06:14 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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08/24/25 06:14 AM ET
I wouldn't knock the Sun Belt because it may have more members passionate
-- VTHokie2000
Aug 25, 2025 at 11:26 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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08/25/25 11:26 AM ET
Not meant to knock the SunBelt but the pay isn't the same
-- HokiesACC2004
Aug 26, 2025 at 05:42 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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08/26/25 05:42 AM ET
Some fans would because the brand of football played would remind them of
-- VTHokie2000
Aug 26, 2025 at 08:27 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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08/26/25 08:27 AM ET
Iowa State is a peer institution.
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 23, 2025 at 09:40 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/23/25 09:40 PM ET
Much truth, Both have potential.
-- MrFantastic!
Aug 25, 2025 at 07:04 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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08/25/25 07:04 AM ET
There were a ton of fans in Ireland the way it looked.**
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 25, 2025 at 01:43 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/25/25 01:43 PM ET
Could be, but ESPN owns 1/2 of ACC Network, I see them backing ACC for that
-- Stech
Aug 23, 2025 at 08:52 PM ET
Stech
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08/23/25 08:52 PM ET
Problem is, ACC basketball is not what it used to be.
-- wwhokie1
Aug 30, 2025 at 06:07 PM ET
wwhokie1
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08/30/25 06:07 PM ET
That’s why the Big East Merger could happen, I know the 🏈 fans won’t like
-- Stech
Aug 30, 2025 at 06:58 PM ET
Stech
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08/30/25 06:58 PM ET
I think Big 12 is much more likely spot for
-- zosohokie
Aug 23, 2025 at 01:54 PM ET
zosohokie
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08/23/25 01:54 PM ET
There are without a doubt.....
-- 2hhoop3
Aug 24, 2025 at 08:50 AM ET
2hhoop3
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08/24/25 08:50 AM ET
Perhaps so, but I believe he was also the UNC athletic director when
-- RJHokie
Aug 24, 2025 at 09:09 AM ET
RJHokie
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08/24/25 09:09 AM ET
I'm not so sure that Phillips has any control
-- Big12 guy
Aug 24, 2025 at 10:26 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/24/25 10:26 AM ET
No absolutes IMHO but both the ACC and B12 are more "prisoners"
-- VTCALS72
Aug 25, 2025 at 08:28 AM ET
VTCALS72
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08/25/25 08:28 AM ET
The ACC/B12 fan discussion will continue
-- Big12 guy
Aug 24, 2025 at 10:47 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/24/25 10:47 AM ET
It’s still kind of 2.5 to 2.
-- hokieZ71
Aug 24, 2025 at 04:20 PM ET
hokieZ71
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08/24/25 04:20 PM ET
Unless a "3rd" power conference gets the type of media money
-- Big12 guy
Aug 24, 2025 at 01:08 PM ET
Big12 guy
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08/24/25 01:08 PM ET
I believe the best of the ACC and the best of the B12 would make ...
-- Atlee Hokie
Aug 24, 2025 at 12:36 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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08/24/25 12:36 PM ET
I understand that. But if, as you say, the P's have spoken, what is ...
-- Atlee Hokie
Aug 25, 2025 at 08:59 AM ET
Atlee Hokie
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08/25/25 08:59 AM ET
I think there is another option and a better one than those 2
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-- VTCALS72
Aug 25, 2025 at 01:02 PM ET
VTCALS72
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08/25/25 01:02 PM ET
Looks good on paper, but dissolving two
-- Big12 guy
Aug 25, 2025 at 10:43 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/25/25 10:43 AM ET
Swofford definitely belongs on that list.**
-- Atlee Hokie
Aug 23, 2025 at 10:08 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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08/23/25 10:08 PM ET
But he took care of his son...
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 24, 2025 at 08:32 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/24/25 08:32 AM ET
B12 is 4th behind the P2 and the ACC, I explain why I think so above.
-- Stech
Aug 23, 2025 at 08:55 PM ET
Stech
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08/23/25 08:55 PM ET
An ACC/Big 12 merger of some sort
-- mancunian
Aug 23, 2025 at 08:08 PM ET
mancunian
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08/23/25 08:08 PM ET
VT is leaving the ACC? link?**
-- Windows NT
Aug 23, 2025 at 04:16 PM ET
Windows NT
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08/23/25 04:16 PM ET
man, that’s depressing**
-- RandomAsianGuy
Aug 23, 2025 at 01:12 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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08/23/25 01:12 PM ET
It could be worse **
-- HokiesACC2004
Aug 24, 2025 at 06:15 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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08/24/25 06:15 AM ET
Kind of like our latest commitment…big time player, gonna visit Tennessee &
-- ombandit
Aug 23, 2025 at 01:34 PM ET
ombandit
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08/23/25 01:34 PM ET
College football is depressing these days**
-- ombandit
Aug 23, 2025 at 01:31 PM ET
ombandit
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08/23/25 01:31 PM ET
unless we raise our budget immediately to 200 million**
-- 1947Sunbowl
Aug 23, 2025 at 12:01 PM ET
1947Sunbowl
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08/23/25 12:01 PM ET
Yep & pretty sure that’s not gonna happen…
-- ombandit
Aug 23, 2025 at 12:21 PM ET
ombandit
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08/23/25 12:21 PM ET
Quit being a drama queen Merc........
-- 2hhoop3
Aug 23, 2025 at 12:12 PM ET
2hhoop3
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08/23/25 12:12 PM ET
You have a keen grasp of the obvious**
-- ombandit
Aug 23, 2025 at 12:49 PM ET
ombandit
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08/23/25 12:49 PM ET
Just trying to help Merc out........
-- 2hhoop3
Aug 23, 2025 at 12:54 PM ET
2hhoop3
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08/23/25 12:54 PM ET
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by ignorance"**
-- NokieHokie
Aug 23, 2025 at 12:22 PM ET
NokieHokie
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08/23/25 12:22 PM ET
LOL!! On message boards definitely!!**
-- ancient alien 2018
Aug 24, 2025 at 12:03 AM ET
ancient alien 2018
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08/24/25 12:03 AM ET