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VTHokie2000
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I get the desire to have a member physically located in Houston and I don't

necessarily disagree with the premise. What I am undecided about is whether Houston is more a pro town (aka a carbon copy of the Northeast US), a college town, or a balance between the them. The other issue the ACC may need to resolve is just how important academics should play in an athletic conference? I get that was the ACC's core value and it worked in the past because of how the media landscape was before and after the SCOTUS ruling in 1984. Does it still work today given that the landscape has drastically changed though? These questions may matter when it comes to determining Rice's "value." Historically Rice has never had a great football program. Any success the program experienced seemed to be short lived for various reasons. Rice may even be a school that cares more about its baseball program (example purposes only) than its football program. If the ACC is truly serious about drastically improving its street cred as a football conference, then it would probably be better served to include members who are committed to doing what is necessary (or at least showing it is making a serious effort) to greatly improve the football product within the conference. If the fans care about the football program, then it should intensify that school's primary football rivalry and maybe open the doors to establishing tense secondary rivalries. Now if the ACC truly doesn't care about its football product, then Rice is essentially a slam dunk as a future ACC member. At this junction, I don't really care if the ACC would prefer to be an academic conference that happens to play football or a conference that places more emphasis on athletics (especially football). The ACC may just need to pick a lane (or path) and stick with it regardless of the consequences (i.e. the football schools leave the conference and the ACC becomes a middle of the pack G8 football conference) instead of straddling between 2 worlds. The Big East tried to straddle 2 worlds (basketball vs. football) and it eventually tore the conference apart. It seems to me that the ACC may be on a very similar path or even the same path as the Big East and I don't think the ACC's ending will be any different than the Big East's ending.
Posted: 09/25/2024 at 09:57 PM ET
(In response to this post by HOO86)

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Wonder if the ACC would actually look at or invite
hoodat 09/25/24 10:23 AM ET
Hawaii FTW 🔥
Maroon Baboon 09/25/24 10:42 PM ET
San Diego State
HOO86 09/25/24 07:41 PM ET
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Cal and Stanford reject playing in a
Maroon Baboon 09/25/24 10:49 PM ET
San Diego State is best of all the west.
HOO86 09/25/24 11:11 PM ET
Yeah if the ACC was going to expand out west, Chargers in LA, huge market,
Stech 09/26/24 06:52 AM ET
UNLV , becoming a Sports Mecca, a destination city
VTinSC 09/25/24 03:04 PM ET
I lean to them also! Worth a shot to see if they would bite and join**
hoodat 09/25/24 06:41 PM ET
there is also a key is the residual Pac 12 money
1947Sunbowl 09/25/24 02:12 PM ET
Invite Oregon State and Washington State......Need more chaos**
CrystalCoveHokie 09/25/24 01:40 PM ET
And UConn, basketball only. **
Big12 guy 09/25/24 01:44 PM ET
We need to pull a PAC on the B12
Truthahn 09/25/24 11:59 AM ET
As long as you have the privates, it won't happen. **
Big12 guy 09/25/24 12:48 PM ET
I'd be happy with Baylor in the ACC
HOO86 09/25/24 07:48 PM ET
ACC may not need TCU, but does the ACC NEED spirited rivalries and more
VTHokie2000 09/25/24 08:10 PM ET
Yes. We need rivalries.
HOO86 09/25/24 08:16 PM ET
I get wanting members in other parts of Texas. However, SMU's rivalries
VTHokie2000 09/25/24 08:27 PM ET
Agree. If we take that many.
HOO86 09/25/24 08:41 PM ET
In terms of primary rivalries within the state of TX, I think the list
VTHokie2000 09/25/24 08:54 PM ET
The UT-TAM is the big one
HOO86 09/25/24 08:58 PM ET
I know the UT-TAMU one is big, but I excluded all primary rivalries
VTHokie2000 09/25/24 09:04 PM ET
OK. I just think Houston presence is important.
HOO86 09/25/24 09:19 PM ET
I get the desire to have a member physically located in Houston and I don't
VTHokie2000 09/25/24 09:57 PM ET
I think VTHokie2000 is right. If you were to ask any of the former SWC
Big12 guy 09/25/24 09:52 PM ET
Which is why the ACC should probably focus on the more passionate secondary
VTHokie2000 09/25/24 10:02 PM ET
The private schools (cough) BYU (oh my it is really dusty on this board)
VTHokie2000 09/25/24 06:42 PM ET