Here’s my quick thoughts in response to your questions
Not all games at neutral sites are warm weather destinations. However, if you look at the mix of teams in the two conferences, particularly with the ACC’s new additions, you get a good mix of appealing options. What incentives would teams and players have to show up? Every bit as much as they do for meaningless bowl games now, plus more visibility with the package, plus lesser teams get one more chance to end on a positive note relative to one of their peers.
I can understand why some folks may want to go to a nice travel spot for a getaway, but a lot of the minor bowls are for less attractive places. We wind up with a lot of ticket donations to fulfill our allotments when that happens. What makes the Military Bowl appealing to Tech fans is in large measure the convenience of Annapolis lending itself to a larger turnout and more of a home game atmosphere.
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Given the playoff killing the bowls stone dead...
-- mancunian
Oct 28, 2024 at 09:50 AM ET
mancunian
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10/28/24 09:50 AM ET
They should be scrapped altogether **
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Oct 30, 2024 at 01:09 AM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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10/30/24 01:09 AM ET
Yes. This could be great way to attack the CFP/P2 cartel as well.
-- Truthahn
Oct 30, 2024 at 11:27 AM ET
Truthahn
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10/30/24 11:27 AM ET
According to the bylaws (aka DI manual), the NCAA does not consider bowl
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 29, 2024 at 03:12 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/29/24 03:12 PM ET
B12 and ACC teams would wither on the vine...
-- EDGEMAN
Nov 01, 2024 at 06:15 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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11/01/24 06:15 AM ET
They should all break away...dissolve the NCAA in its entirety
-- daveinop
Oct 30, 2024 at 07:16 AM ET
daveinop
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10/30/24 07:16 AM ET
You sound like you are in the SEC. **
-- Big12 guy
Oct 29, 2024 at 02:07 PM ET
Big12 guy
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10/29/24 02:07 PM ET
The P2 could do this. They don't feel they need the other 2.**
-- Maroon Baboon
Oct 29, 2024 at 01:22 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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10/29/24 01:22 PM ET
I guess there are not enough people like me who would not watch a second
-- dallasvt
Oct 29, 2024 at 04:07 PM ET
dallasvt
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10/29/24 04:07 PM ET
The younger demographic gambles & are already proving to watch more P2 than
-- Stech
Oct 30, 2024 at 09:25 AM ET
Stech
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10/30/24 09:25 AM ET
I would agree with your premise. If you are gambling, who and what
-- Big12 guy
Oct 30, 2024 at 10:30 AM ET
Big12 guy
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10/30/24 10:30 AM ET
Yep & I’m not a fan of my premise, but they care about 💵, not my opinion🤣**
-- Stech
Oct 30, 2024 at 10:44 AM ET
Stech
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10/30/24 10:44 AM ET
I generally only watch VT games. I'll occasionally tune into other ACC...
-- EDGEMAN
Oct 30, 2024 at 06:58 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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10/30/24 06:58 AM ET
I am with you. I just think that that's the mentality of the powers that be**
-- Maroon Baboon
Oct 29, 2024 at 04:42 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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10/29/24 04:42 PM ET
Week Zero with great matchups would be off the Charts. Ohio State Georgia,
-- Stech
Oct 29, 2024 at 12:43 PM ET
Stech
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10/29/24 12:43 PM ET
Ratings could suffer because there aren't as many time slots available in
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 29, 2024 at 03:41 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/29/24 03:41 PM ET
They will still have the Opt Out Bowls, but plenty of room 4 big preseason
-- Stech
Oct 29, 2024 at 04:02 PM ET
Stech
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10/29/24 04:02 PM ET
The Week 1 neutral site games have been here for quite some time though
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 29, 2024 at 04:18 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/29/24 04:18 PM ET
Okay that’s 1 way to look at it, I think they will expand for 💵, but tell.**
-- Stech
Oct 29, 2024 at 05:51 PM ET
Stech
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10/29/24 05:51 PM ET
Expand how? I doubt you will see them play games during work day in late
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 29, 2024 at 07:33 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/29/24 07:33 PM ET
Most Bowls r during the work day week, they can do it in Aug, it’s about 💵
-- Stech
Oct 29, 2024 at 07:42 PM ET
Stech
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10/29/24 07:42 PM ET
If ratings during the work week in late August was just as good as the
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 29, 2024 at 08:05 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/29/24 08:05 PM ET
Big matchups in August will get big ratings, kids being in school or not,
-- Stech
Oct 29, 2024 at 08:54 PM ET
Stech
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10/29/24 08:54 PM ET
Your example is Thursday night which is vastly different than a football
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 29, 2024 at 09:20 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/29/24 09:20 PM ET
Most Bowl games are at night while people are working, did you see the ESPN
-- Stech
Oct 29, 2024 at 09:41 PM ET
Stech
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10/29/24 09:41 PM ET
Yes, I read the article. According to the 2024-25 bowl schedule,
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 29, 2024 at 10:13 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/29/24 10:13 PM ET
Okay you on record as saying it won’t happen, I’m on record saying it will
-- Stech
Oct 29, 2024 at 11:47 PM ET
Stech
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10/29/24 11:47 PM ET
Actually, I am not on the record saying it won't happen. What I am on the
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 30, 2024 at 08:07 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/30/24 08:07 AM ET
I don’t think and never said 8:00 AM Bowl games, I think they will increase
-- Stech
Oct 30, 2024 at 09:05 AM ET
Stech
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10/30/24 09:05 AM ET
ESPN's article, which you referenced in a prior post, talks about a game
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 30, 2024 at 09:19 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/30/24 09:19 AM ET
I believe they said that, but I didn’t say that. I just think they will
-- Stech
Oct 30, 2024 at 09:33 AM ET
Stech
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10/30/24 09:33 AM ET
It will be interesting to see how much of an increase there will be in the
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 30, 2024 at 09:45 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/30/24 09:45 AM ET
Those are reasons they likely expand the playoff from 12, and while they
-- Stech
Oct 30, 2024 at 10:19 AM ET
Stech
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10/30/24 10:19 AM ET
I get that some locations, who currently don't host a bowl game, will
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 30, 2024 at 10:35 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/30/24 10:35 AM ET
I favor a spring tournament of bowl winners run by the NCAA.
-- Truthahn
Oct 29, 2024 at 12:06 PM ET
Truthahn
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10/29/24 12:06 PM ET
The ACC should just agree with the B12 to zipper their non playoff teams
-- Marooned
Oct 28, 2024 at 07:12 PM ET
Marooned
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10/28/24 07:12 PM ET
The purpose of bowls was to have an exhibition game. When
-- Big12 guy
Oct 28, 2024 at 08:20 PM ET
Big12 guy
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10/28/24 08:20 PM ET
I think we’re on the same page
-- Marooned
Oct 28, 2024 at 08:48 PM ET
Marooned
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10/28/24 08:48 PM ET
Senior Bowl is important to the NFL for player evaluation
-- PadrosWindup
Oct 28, 2024 at 10:30 PM ET
PadrosWindup
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10/28/24 10:30 PM ET
There should also be an overarching corporate sponsor
-- Marooned
Oct 28, 2024 at 08:49 PM ET
Marooned
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10/28/24 08:49 PM ET
I think you are still talking post season. I'm Ok
-- Big12 guy
Oct 28, 2024 at 08:53 PM ET
Big12 guy
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10/28/24 08:53 PM ET
Some drawbacks on that approach
-- Marooned
Oct 28, 2024 at 09:28 PM ET
Marooned
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10/28/24 09:28 PM ET
If you want to compete with the SEC/BIG in media numbers,
-- Big12 guy
Oct 29, 2024 at 06:27 AM ET
Big12 guy
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10/29/24 06:27 AM ET
If we did that they would just be a neutral site out of conference game.
-- wwhokie1
Oct 28, 2024 at 05:59 PM ET
wwhokie1
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10/28/24 05:59 PM ET
Most of them have always been pointless for the National Championship and
-- 33laszlo99
Oct 28, 2024 at 08:28 PM ET
33laszlo99
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10/28/24 08:28 PM ET
They are great programming for ESPN
-- PadrosWindup
Oct 28, 2024 at 10:27 PM ET
PadrosWindup
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10/28/24 10:27 PM ET
Yep, bowls bring in ratings for ESPN at 2:30 PM on a Tuesday in December...
-- BROman Hokie
Oct 29, 2024 at 08:51 AM ET
BROman Hokie
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10/29/24 08:51 AM ET
Will bowl viewership crater over time?
-- mancunian
Oct 29, 2024 at 12:56 PM ET
mancunian
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10/29/24 12:56 PM ET
I'll take the football over the NBA and NHL any day of the week. **
-- Big12 guy
Oct 29, 2024 at 05:35 PM ET
Big12 guy
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10/29/24 05:35 PM ET
If a person is off from work the week leading up to Christmas and/or the
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 29, 2024 at 04:25 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/29/24 04:25 PM ET
Would you rather watch VT playing Air Force in Memphis, or
-- Marooned
Oct 29, 2024 at 09:17 PM ET
Marooned
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10/29/24 09:17 PM ET
Since I will watch a VT football game on TV regardless of the opponent, I
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 29, 2024 at 09:39 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/29/24 09:39 PM ET
I wasn’t referring to pre- or mid season games
-- Marooned
Oct 30, 2024 at 05:25 AM ET
Marooned
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10/30/24 05:25 AM ET
Since the bylaws define when the regular season starts and ends,
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 30, 2024 at 07:39 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/30/24 07:39 AM ET
Here’s my quick thoughts in response to your questions
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-- Marooned
Oct 30, 2024 at 01:44 PM ET
Marooned
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10/30/24 01:44 PM ET
One reason the Military Bowl is more appealing to VT fans is because most
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 30, 2024 at 02:18 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/30/24 02:18 PM ET
What incentive would the rest of the country have to watch them?
-- Big12 guy
Oct 30, 2024 at 08:11 AM ET
Big12 guy
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10/30/24 08:11 AM ET
Given that most people are off work or school the last 2 weeks in December,
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 30, 2024 at 10:20 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/30/24 10:20 AM ET
It's pretty simple. Replace the bowl games with a
-- Big12 guy
Oct 30, 2024 at 10:35 AM ET
Big12 guy
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10/30/24 10:35 AM ET
Currently there are approximately 30+ bowl games even if you exclude the
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 30, 2024 at 10:44 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/30/24 10:44 AM ET
I beg to differ. The NBA and NHL would most certainly play games
-- Big12 guy
Oct 30, 2024 at 10:50 AM ET
Big12 guy
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10/30/24 10:50 AM ET
You may want to look at the NBA's schedule for this year. If you look at
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 30, 2024 at 11:02 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/30/24 11:02 AM ET
What, college football is any different? They have fans that can take time
-- Big12 guy
Oct 30, 2024 at 01:02 PM ET
Big12 guy
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10/30/24 01:02 PM ET
If you follow the money, then ESPN cares about content. Since the NBA and
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 30, 2024 at 01:04 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/30/24 01:04 PM ET
There are other media players other than ESPN. Quite frankly, they
-- Big12 guy
Oct 30, 2024 at 01:44 PM ET
Big12 guy
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10/30/24 01:44 PM ET
WRT basketball tournaments, you should remember they can only take place
-- VTHokie2000
Oct 30, 2024 at 02:12 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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10/30/24 02:12 PM ET
The problem is, the bowls now exist to provide content for tv
-- HokieAl
Oct 28, 2024 at 05:06 PM ET
HokieAl
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10/28/24 05:06 PM ET
Most folks use bowls as a sleep enhancer**
-- VPI 1924
Oct 28, 2024 at 06:50 PM ET
VPI 1924
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10/28/24 06:50 PM ET
I have been screaming this for a decade. Move bowls to preseason games
-- HokieToph
Oct 28, 2024 at 11:32 AM ET
HokieToph
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10/28/24 11:32 AM ET
how about no bowl games , no conference championships and
-- Vippie1
Oct 28, 2024 at 10:05 AM ET
Vippie1
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10/28/24 10:05 AM ET
Clever. Folks would likely travel for 2-3 events over a 2 day period.**
-- jesuisvtguy
Oct 28, 2024 at 11:05 AM ET
jesuisvtguy
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10/28/24 11:05 AM ET
yeah i like it- i'd go to something like that
-- Vippie1
Oct 28, 2024 at 11:13 AM ET
Vippie1
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10/28/24 11:13 AM ET
The Orange Bowl used to do that...
-- mancunian
Oct 28, 2024 at 10:07 AM ET
mancunian
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10/28/24 10:07 AM ET
It would certainly make the Fenway Bowl more appealing
-- Victor Tango
Oct 28, 2024 at 10:04 AM ET
Victor Tango
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10/28/24 10:04 AM ET
Scheduling years out is one of the problems college football has. In
-- Big12 guy
Oct 28, 2024 at 11:04 AM ET
Big12 guy
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10/28/24 11:04 AM ET