I don't expect KU to be competing for national championships
in football. last I checked, they never have. I do expect them to compete in the Football playoffs form time to time, or at least compete for a playoff spot.
KU did not get invited to the Big 10 as many rumors suggested. They were vetted by them, but so was GT.
They are playing their football games at Arrowhead this year, because they are essentially building a new football stadium. Money will not be the reason that our football coach will leave, but there are certainly other institutions he may consider. He has family in Wisconsin for example.
My point is, our fanbase went through the excruciating process of where our athletics would end up. With no invite form the ACC or PAC, and the P2 passing on them, the unknown for the fans was filled with dread and speculation. Kinda what you and your fanbase is going through right now. Yet, they are moving forward with more money now, than they made with Texas in the conference.
Today, our football team is entering into uncharted waters with their new conference. Call it the Allstate conference, as the Big 12 just doesn't fit anymore. I've never witnessed the excitement from K-State and ISU fans like I am seeing this year. We finally got rid of Texas, and there is a slate of really competitive football on the horizon.
Will any of the schools in the B12 get the top 4 and 5 star recruits? Hah, not a chance, but did they ever? The big boys got their money. With the exception of FSU and ND, there are no more blue bloods on the table. Let them have their cake, as it is still my contention that they will choke.
My position is certainly a fans position. I blame no one for my school not being invited to the cool kids party. I'm looking forward to the new reality, and when this shakes out, so will the VT fans.
Thread Replies (93)
Some banter about WSU and Oregon State we already know but worth posting**
-- Maroon Unit
Aug 12, 2024 at 07:47 PM ET
Maroon Unit
•
08/12/24 07:47 PM ET
Create an ACC-PAC10 Network
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Aug 14, 2024 at 07:28 AM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
•
08/14/24 07:28 AM ET
I'd rather just merge them with the ACC and dump Wake
-- Truthahn
Aug 14, 2024 at 01:31 PM ET
Truthahn
•
08/14/24 01:31 PM ET
"Dumping" schools is where you guys lose me. Wake is a founding
-- Big12 guy
Aug 14, 2024 at 02:17 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/14/24 02:17 PM ET
Yes, it sucks, but I think even the B10 will eventually do it.
-- Truthahn
Aug 16, 2024 at 12:21 PM ET
Truthahn
•
08/16/24 12:21 PM ET
The top level football doesn't care about "regionality, ...
-- Atlee Hokie
Aug 15, 2024 at 05:50 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
•
08/15/24 05:50 PM ET
Are you talking Texas, USC, ESPN and Fox? or are you talking
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 07:23 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 07:23 PM ET
We also traditionally played William and Mary, and VMI
-- RTFC
Aug 14, 2024 at 11:12 PM ET
RTFC
•
08/14/24 11:12 PM ET
Playing Old Dominion and maybe Liberty down the road is the
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 08:41 AM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 08:41 AM ET
So maybe we have to drop an out of state private school to play those...
-- RTFC
Aug 15, 2024 at 10:19 AM ET
RTFC
•
08/15/24 10:19 AM ET
Two OOC loses and winning the conference gets a bye. **
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 12:30 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 12:30 PM ET
I know, but winning those 2 OOC games, and losing
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 12:39 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 12:39 PM ET
A one loss loser of the conference championship gets in as well. The
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 12:52 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 12:52 PM ET
They would have to be ranked high enough. WVU plays Penn state this year,
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 01:23 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 01:23 PM ET
Maybe should, but don't trust the "selection" committee.**
-- Atlee Hokie
Aug 15, 2024 at 06:07 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
•
08/15/24 06:07 PM ET
After FSU being left out, who could trust them? **
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 07:22 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 07:22 PM ET
That is probably the reality, but I'm a sicko with the in state G5 matchups**
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 10:36 AM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 10:36 AM ET
So finding a way to drop a WF or BC is the reality...makes sense**
-- RTFC
Aug 15, 2024 at 10:45 AM ET
RTFC
•
08/15/24 10:45 AM ET
I disagree. Finding a way to blow out their football and basketball
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 10:50 AM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 10:50 AM ET
? You just completely contradicted your last post...
-- RTFC
Aug 15, 2024 at 11:53 AM ET
RTFC
•
08/15/24 11:53 AM ET
No, they are conference members. Obviously, the G5's are OOC. **
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 11:55 AM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 11:55 AM ET
Wake Forest has negative value. Wake Forest IS the problem with the ACC.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Aug 14, 2024 at 03:58 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
08/14/24 03:58 PM ET
All of that may be true, but you guys are the ones that wanted to be in the
-- Big12 guy
Aug 14, 2024 at 04:41 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/14/24 04:41 PM ET
Nobody is asking for anOSU money - just pull your weight.**
-- RTFC
Aug 15, 2024 at 10:25 AM ET
RTFC
•
08/15/24 10:25 AM ET
Are their athletic budgets in line with VT? If not, you have an argument. **
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 10:37 AM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 10:37 AM ET
Whether the budgets are or aren't commensurate is completely irrelevant-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Aug 15, 2024 at 11:40 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
08/15/24 11:40 AM ET
Again, they are in the ACC. maybe it's not the right conference for VT?**
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 11:48 AM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 11:48 AM ET
If the little foo foo schools want to have a little foo foo conference,
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Aug 14, 2024 at 05:09 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
08/14/24 05:09 PM ET
Pay the exit fee then. Like FSU, no one held a gun to any of
-- Big12 guy
Aug 14, 2024 at 05:30 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/14/24 05:30 PM ET
The MAG7 was all about dumping teams, really. Everyone here loved that.
-- Truthahn
Aug 16, 2024 at 04:28 PM ET
Truthahn
•
08/16/24 04:28 PM ET
I mostly enjoy your posts, but you're exhibiting a real loser mindset.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Aug 15, 2024 at 10:10 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
08/15/24 10:10 AM ET
I lived in Boston and Charlotte. The ACC is not the problem. The private
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 10:34 AM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 10:34 AM ET
Mr. Custer those Indians are harmless - except for those arrows....**
-- RTFC
Aug 15, 2024 at 11:56 AM ET
RTFC
•
08/15/24 11:56 AM ET
What exactly do you think is going to happen to Kansas-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Aug 15, 2024 at 11:05 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
08/15/24 11:05 AM ET
I don't expect KU to be competing for national championships
◄
-- Big12 guy
Aug 15, 2024 at 11:28 AM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/15/24 11:28 AM ET
Sounds like a great idea if each ACC member is
-- HouClone
Aug 14, 2024 at 01:12 PM ET
HouClone
•
08/14/24 01:12 PM ET
All that does is create a charity for WSU & OSU. I hate it for their fans,
-- reestuart
Aug 14, 2024 at 12:15 PM ET
reestuart
•
08/14/24 12:15 PM ET
If the ACC just HAD to add teams from across the country-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Aug 14, 2024 at 04:04 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
08/14/24 04:04 PM ET
A Pac-10 without USC football and UCLA basketball just isn't the same.
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 14, 2024 at 12:06 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
•
08/14/24 12:06 PM ET
This sounds God awful**
-- Sunsetunderground
Aug 14, 2024 at 10:35 AM ET
Sunsetunderground
•
08/14/24 10:35 AM ET
They can call it the AccPac (pronounced "Ack-Pack").**
-- HokieNoVA
Aug 14, 2024 at 09:12 AM ET
HokieNoVA
•
08/14/24 09:12 AM ET
I hear Billy Joel singing Big Shot - Ack-Pack Ack Ack Ack Ack Ack**
-- OrlandoHokie
Aug 14, 2024 at 10:38 AM ET
OrlandoHokie
•
08/14/24 10:38 AM ET
I wish the ACC would have grabbed them
-- HokiesACC2004
Aug 13, 2024 at 05:19 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
•
08/13/24 05:19 AM ET
Agree...hate to see them get hosed...plus one day it might be us**
-- Tuckahokie
Aug 13, 2024 at 05:55 PM ET
Tuckahokie
•
08/13/24 05:55 PM ET
I always thought with the ACCN it would pay for them being new states
-- tcc_dc
Aug 13, 2024 at 12:39 PM ET
tcc_dc
•
08/13/24 12:39 PM ET
Question for the board: Are there G5 options for the ACC or B12 that are
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 13, 2024 at 02:17 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
•
08/13/24 02:17 AM ET
Quite a few better than Wazzu, none better than Oregon State
-- obguthr
Aug 13, 2024 at 12:30 PM ET
obguthr
•
08/13/24 12:30 PM ET
If the ACC loses 3 or four teams, they probably try to pull away some
-- wwhokie1
Aug 13, 2024 at 09:46 AM ET
wwhokie1
•
08/13/24 09:46 AM ET
It's possible. Do you think the media money would be there? **
-- Big12 guy
Aug 13, 2024 at 01:03 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/13/24 01:03 PM ET
Depends on how many teams the ACC loses. Depending on ACC losses
-- wwhokie1
Aug 13, 2024 at 01:11 PM ET
wwhokie1
•
08/13/24 01:11 PM ET
I don't think the media money is as all final as you seem to
-- VTCALS72
Aug 13, 2024 at 04:31 PM ET
VTCALS72
•
08/13/24 04:31 PM ET
But what if the Big 12 comes after a package deal of
-- wwhokie1
Aug 13, 2024 at 06:00 PM ET
wwhokie1
•
08/13/24 06:00 PM ET
Let's just take VT since that is what we most care about
-- VTCALS72
Aug 13, 2024 at 06:26 PM ET
VTCALS72
•
08/13/24 06:26 PM ET
The schools you list that the four would be better off staying with include
-- wwhokie1
Aug 13, 2024 at 08:25 PM ET
wwhokie1
•
08/13/24 08:25 PM ET
I had FSU, Clemson, UNC and UVA as the ones leaving.
-- VTCALS72
Aug 13, 2024 at 09:13 PM ET
VTCALS72
•
08/13/24 09:13 PM ET
The section of the thread I responded to had gone a different direction. **
-- wwhokie1
Aug 13, 2024 at 10:11 PM ET
wwhokie1
•
08/13/24 10:11 PM ET
UCF needs a trave partner. Miami or GT? If VT is
-- Big12 guy
Aug 13, 2024 at 07:46 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/13/24 07:46 PM ET
I agree on all points. The schools will go where the money is,
-- Big12 guy
Aug 13, 2024 at 01:23 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/13/24 01:23 PM ET
Schools will go to where the post travel net money is.**
-- VTCALS72
Aug 14, 2024 at 07:48 AM ET
VTCALS72
•
08/14/24 07:48 AM ET
Take a look at Couz's corner. he has a guy on there talking
-- Big12 guy
Aug 14, 2024 at 08:18 AM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/14/24 08:18 AM ET
Only disagree with one point, the "Business" is not just football and MBB
-- VTCALS72
Aug 14, 2024 at 11:44 AM ET
VTCALS72
•
08/14/24 11:44 AM ET
That was the athletic director that stated the 70%. Even if that is
-- Big12 guy
Aug 14, 2024 at 12:06 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/14/24 12:06 PM ET
Texas State with 38,000 student enrolled may be a sleeper in the
-- Big12 guy
Aug 13, 2024 at 08:30 AM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/13/24 08:30 AM ET
TSU main campus is in San Marcos, midway between Austin and San Antonio
-- El Paso Hokie
Aug 13, 2024 at 05:33 PM ET
El Paso Hokie
•
08/13/24 05:33 PM ET
I've been thinking Texas State goes to the new PAC.
-- Truthahn
Aug 13, 2024 at 11:54 AM ET
Truthahn
•
08/13/24 11:54 AM ET
Th New PAC is like talking about the mag 7 and top B12 teams forming
-- Big12 guy
Aug 13, 2024 at 01:34 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/13/24 01:34 PM ET
I think the new PAC is a probability
-- VTCALS72
Aug 14, 2024 at 08:03 AM ET
VTCALS72
•
08/14/24 08:03 AM ET
I like South Florida & UCONN in the east, San Diego St & Oregon State west
-- Stech
Aug 13, 2024 at 06:21 AM ET
Stech
•
08/13/24 06:21 AM ET
I used to like UConn as an expansion option, back in the Big East days.
-- wwhokie1
Aug 13, 2024 at 02:56 PM ET
wwhokie1
•
08/13/24 02:56 PM ET
I understand that, however 🏀 expansion is coming, so is the 💵 for the
-- Stech
Aug 13, 2024 at 09:54 PM ET
Stech
•
08/13/24 09:54 PM ET
That rise in the value of basketball may come. But I'm afraid it may not
-- wwhokie1
Aug 13, 2024 at 10:09 PM ET
wwhokie1
•
08/13/24 10:09 PM ET
I think schools like Duke and UCONN will be paying plenty for 🏀, Olympic
-- Stech
Aug 14, 2024 at 07:38 AM ET
Stech
•
08/14/24 07:38 AM ET
When the Big east was considered a power conference, I remember
-- Big12 guy
Aug 13, 2024 at 03:55 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
08/13/24 03:55 PM ET
south fla recently AAU school
-- 1947Sunbowl
Aug 13, 2024 at 09:47 AM ET
1947Sunbowl
•
08/13/24 09:47 AM ET
Uconn and South Florida
-- HokiesACC2004
Aug 13, 2024 at 05:21 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
•
08/13/24 05:21 AM ET
Remind all of us where FSU is headed again?**
-- drb
Aug 13, 2024 at 06:52 AM ET
drb
•
08/13/24 06:52 AM ET