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reestuart
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Yeah, USC was gone regardless. I imagine having UCLA come along

is nice, but there's no way not having UCLA would have stopped them.
Posted: 12/13/2023 at 09:09 AM ET
(In response to this post by Pylons)

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I'm not buying the notion that UVA and VT, or UNC and NC St. are package
wwhokie1 • 12/11/23 01:43 PM ET
It would also hurt the state generally if none got in versus one only**
CrystalCoveHokie • 12/13/23 09:30 AM ET
That might have been the horse-trade but it looks like it is falling apart,
TDVick • 12/13/23 03:06 AM ET
When did expansion stop being about football? I missed that if it happened.
Stech • 12/13/23 01:42 PM ET
The March Madness pot of money is huge and could get reallocated eventually
TDVick • 12/13/23 06:29 PM ET
I understand, I think many think basketball payouts are going the way of 🏈
Stech • 12/13/23 07:31 PM ET
UNC wants UVA and really doesn't want us. This is the point I made in 2011
TDVick • 12/13/23 03:02 AM ET
The SEC has a stronger hand than UNC IMHO...
gman86 • 12/13/23 12:23 PM ET
ESPN has a stronger hand than the SEC.
tarheelblue • 12/13/23 03:57 PM ET
You make a good point. I hope you are right. I do agree with your logic
TDVick • 12/13/23 01:22 PM ET
WHy UNC will lean BIG if ACC dies.**
MrFantastic! • 12/13/23 12:48 PM ET
SEC will have decisions to make if and when.
MrFantastic! • 12/13/23 08:38 AM ET
NC State and Va Tech in the SEC...UVA and UNC in the Big 10
VaTechHokiesACC • 12/13/23 12:34 AM ET
Not sure UNC & UVA to the SEC will happen alone
VTCALS72 • 12/13/23 08:37 AM ET
The ACC had a gun to their head and was forced to invite us before they
TDVick • 12/13/23 09:33 AM ET
what if you were an advertising exec
VTCALS72 • 12/13/23 10:56 AM ET
If I’m a P2, I’m looking at the biggest untapped markets available.
Hardcore_Hokie • 12/13/23 11:15 AM ET
You got it and that, not the individual VT or UVA that is the driver
VTCALS72 • 12/13/23 11:33 AM ET
As far as cable and TV markets, I don’t think PSU carries DC at all
Hardcore_Hokie • 12/13/23 11:54 AM ET
prolly**
MrBayAreaHokie • 12/12/23 02:28 PM ET
I'd agree. The situattion isn't what it was 20 yrs ago in 2003. **
anotherdamnyankeehokie • 12/12/23 02:09 PM ET
It looks worse for us to me. Are you saying our position is better?
TDVick • 12/13/23 03:07 AM ET
Without getting political, it can't help VT's case that southwest VA is
501 • 12/11/23 08:45 PM ET
This should help VT's image.**
Gadfly • 12/12/23 04:45 PM ET
I’ve read that Attorney General hopes
Hokie12thman • 12/12/23 12:00 PM ET
Acting independently wouldn't be "rogue."
Pylons • 12/12/23 12:07 PM ET
One would think from some of the comments that Blacksburg resembles an
jrc3rd • 12/12/23 09:51 AM ET
Nailed it!
fsghokie • 12/13/23 09:21 AM ET
Virginia Tech is the largest university in Virginia, and it's a state U
EDGEMAN • 12/12/23 08:51 AM ET
FWIW I believe George Mason University is the largest university in VA with
VTHokie2000 • 12/12/23 05:17 PM ET
We're talking real universities, not commuter or diploma factories...lol**
EDGEMAN • 12/13/23 04:59 AM ET
One med school.
Pylons • 12/12/23 01:16 PM ET
I use that whenever Hoos talk about their med school...
EDGEMAN • 12/12/23 02:57 PM ET
You don’t think vet school is a med school?**
HOKIEGOBBLE • 12/12/23 02:53 PM ET
no, I don't
Pylons • 12/12/23 07:02 PM ET
I'd much rather see a vet than a doctor.
mancunian • 12/13/23 10:26 AM ET
Yeah, we humans have so much in common with turtles and chickens 🙄
Pylons • 12/13/23 10:33 AM ET
*Deleted*
Hokie Fiji • 12/12/23 09:52 PM ET
... and 95% of the students are from NoVA. :)**
Windows NT • 12/12/23 11:12 AM ET
It sure feels that way...lol**
EDGEMAN • 12/12/23 11:17 AM ET
There will be bipartisan support for UVA-VT package, and we just saw…
ombandit • 12/12/23 06:26 AM ET
do you really think "bipartisan advocacy" carried any weight?
VTCALS72 • 12/12/23 07:46 AM ET
I have reason to believe USC said we aren’t going without UCLA to the B1G.
Stech • 12/12/23 08:19 AM ET
UNC is basically in the role of USC. They want UVA pulled in with then.
TDVick • 12/13/23 03:11 AM ET
Agreed, UNC wants UVA, but don’t let fan talk convince you that @ the Admin
Stech • 12/13/23 08:40 AM ET
I think you might......
2hhoop3 • 12/12/23 12:50 PM ET
I have a very hard time believing they didn’t talk to each other and did
Stech • 12/12/23 01:46 PM ET
I am aware.....
2hhoop3 • 12/12/23 02:04 PM ET
If you’re saying USC would have gone even if UCLA didn’t, I agree. I also
Stech • 12/12/23 02:19 PM ET
"USC said 'we aren't going without UCLA'"
Pylons • 12/12/23 07:19 PM ET
Yeah, USC was gone regardless. I imagine having UCLA come along ◄
reestuart • 12/13/23 09:09 AM ET
So you admit they were likely communicating, & really wanted 2 go together?
Stech • 12/12/23 09:06 PM ET
It would not surprise me if they were communicating.
Pylons • 12/12/23 09:14 PM ET
Both things can be true especially in negotiating, USC could have said we
Stech • 12/12/23 09:34 PM ET
If you had originally posted that USC *could have* said they weren't going
Pylons • 12/13/23 12:44 AM ET
Okay Professor, I have edited the post. Can we please let th dead 🐎 sleep?**
Stech • 12/13/23 08:33 AM ET
One more for your........
2hhoop3 • 12/12/23 09:59 PM ET
🤣**
Stech • 12/12/23 11:50 PM ET
The point of UCLA........
2hhoop3 • 12/12/23 02:34 PM ET
Agreed, there is no question they were trying to keep the UCal people out
Stech • 12/12/23 02:39 PM ET
USC needed a travel partner. If Tech gets an SEC invite, they will leave UV
Big12 guy • 12/12/23 12:17 PM ET
VT and UVa were divided athletically for a long time
Pylons • 12/12/23 11:04 AM ET
We just disagree on what we have to offer
VTCALS72 • 12/12/23 11:00 AM ET
USC did? Got a link?**
Pylons • 12/12/23 10:53 AM ET
I have a very hard time believing they didn’t talk to each other and
Stech • 12/12/23 01:48 PM ET
So that's a "no" then.
Pylons • 12/12/23 07:16 PM ET
So you are saying if you can’t prove it, it means it never happened!
Stech • 12/12/23 08:58 PM ET
Not actually what I said
Pylons • 12/12/23 09:10 PM ET
John Warner always made sure that VA's
mancunian • 12/12/23 08:30 AM ET
Spot on former Secretary of the Navy & Va Senator started Va Congressional
Stech • 12/12/23 01:18 PM ET
Warner was an old school statesman.
mancunian • 12/12/23 01:54 PM ET
True, he looked at things objectively, but one of the great things he left
Stech • 12/12/23 02:04 PM ET
It's a public not private school
HokiesACC2004 • 12/12/23 06:20 AM ET
The demographic prize is NOVA where basically half of our alums
Tuckahokie • 12/12/23 06:18 AM ET
We also dominate tidewater and Richmond. We dominate the Commonwealth!**
EDGEMAN • 12/12/23 08:52 AM ET
Virginia Tech is a state university, so where it's located should...
Old Line Hokie • 12/11/23 11:50 PM ET
There really is no way......
2hhoop3 • 12/11/23 09:02 PM ET
Even if true, which I think it is true, it has nothing to do with this
Stech • 12/11/23 09:09 PM ET
I do not disagree.....
2hhoop3 • 12/11/23 09:15 PM ET
Yep 2hhoop3 I agree, proving once again, never say never! 🤣🤣**
Stech • 12/11/23 10:12 PM ET
I don't know if that is true or not, but WADR that has nothing to do with
Stech • 12/11/23 09:02 PM ET
Might as well ask if PSU has dwindling influence in PA state politics
Marooned • 12/11/23 10:41 PM ET
You should be buying, same with UNC and NCSU IMHO. The odds of those 4
Stech • 12/11/23 08:29 PM ET
If those four remain a boxed set, here's my prediction (FWIW)
33laszlo99 • 12/11/23 09:06 PM ET
ESPN just took Texas when they had Texas A&M, ESPN loves Alabama Auburn and
Stech • 12/11/23 10:24 PM ET
The question depends on the viability of the ACC
Marooned • 12/11/23 08:24 PM ET
Will be interesting and I know for fact
Hokie83 • 12/11/23 07:29 PM ET
"Tied together" how?
Pylons • 12/11/23 10:42 PM ET
Well the UVA athletic director said Whit speaks for both of us
OrlandoHokie • 12/12/23 12:19 AM ET
Characterized here**
Pylons • 12/12/23 01:53 AM ET
I love that the revenue consultant company is called Fishbait Solutions
OrlandoHokie • 12/12/23 10:53 AM ET
For the "bond" to be effective would require some convoluted, esoteric
33laszlo99 • 12/11/23 11:34 PM ET
I think the politicians are, as usual big bags of wind in this.
VTCALS72 • 12/11/23 07:10 PM ET
At one time, OK and OSU were a package.
Truthahn • 12/11/23 05:48 PM ET
It was Colorado and 5 schools
mrcaniac • 12/11/23 08:53 PM ET
Its every school for itself in realignment
TerryD • 12/11/23 05:03 PM ET
Selective reasoning by the Independent, USC and UCLA and Texas & Texas A&M
Stech • 12/11/23 08:38 PM ET
My post had nothing to do with ND
TerryD • 12/12/23 09:02 AM ET
WADR, when you post, it’s always from the Independent ND perspective.
Stech • 12/12/23 02:01 PM ET
I agree athletes will be employees
TerryD • 12/12/23 04:50 PM ET
*
TerryD • 12/12/23 04:50 PM ET
Like being offered the last seat in a lifeboat and turning it down…..
CrystalCoveHokie • 12/11/23 04:58 PM ET
That assumes there ever will be "future expansion"
VTCALS72 • 12/11/23 03:52 PM ET
Since everything revolves around money
Millpoint • 12/11/23 03:33 PM ET
The Calimony model.**
tarheelblue • 12/11/23 03:39 PM ET
Exactly
Millpoint • 12/11/23 04:05 PM ET
IF (and it's a big if) Valimony actually happened...
Gobbler Guru • 12/11/23 08:56 PM ET
Yeah, I get that people *want* them to move together,
Pylons • 12/11/23 02:26 PM ET
From what I’ve read here, VT and UVA
HokieAl • 12/11/23 01:56 PM ET
Don't the Carolina schools actually have a UNC system? That could come
IB4TECH • 12/11/23 09:37 PM ET
Yes, a common chancellor rules over the roost.**
RJHokie • 12/11/23 09:39 PM ET
And Texas being Texas, it has at least 2, if not more systems.
Atlee Hokie • 12/11/23 09:50 PM ET
6 systems
mrcaniac • 12/11/23 11:28 PM ET
I guess the state of Texas does nothing , if it can't do it in excess.**
Atlee Hokie • 12/12/23 03:28 AM ET
Yes, TT has its own system
Marooned • 12/11/23 10:52 PM ET
I could see them putting in a good word for the other , but not rejecting
wwhokie1 • 12/11/23 02:41 PM ET