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Things were much different when the current ACC

media deal was negotiated - then the ACCN. It was the richest of the media deals, and ND needed a place to put their non revs. At the time, the ACC was the perfect fit. The Big East as we know them today, did not exist. The ACC was solidified as a top power 5 conference. To me, it seemed like a no brainer that the ACC and ND came to an understanding, as many of their historic "rivals" if you will, were in the ACC. I could be wrong, but I really don't think that ND needed the football schedule "fillers" at the end of the season like many on here think. I think that they leveraged those games to get into the ACC for their basketball and non revs. It made perfect sense - a win win if you will. Then, ...., the Big East was formed, the PAC imploded, the "P2" consolidated most of the blue bloods into two conferences for the media money, and we now have an expanded playoff system that pays a ton of money. Add in that the ACC is stuck with their once rich media deal until 2036, the FSU and Clemson debacle, and uneven revenue distribution - things are precarious at best for the ND/ACC relationship. Too much has changed in such a short period of time for anything to be taken for granted. It was the 10 year scheduling agreement with Clemson that got my attention. Sure, they count towards the agreement where it fits, but then you have the years where it doesn't fit. If ND leaves the ACC (not a prediction), then they will continue to play Clemson every year, whether they count or not. It's probably one of the most significant developments that has taken place, and it's often over looked. If they can do that with Clemson, they can do that with any ACC school, and if they can do that with the top football brands in the ACC, then they can do that with any B12 school, or any ACC school for that matter. It is entirely possible that they enter into an agreement with USC as well, and if they do that, Purdue, MSU, Michigan, and other traditional "rivals" would certainly sign on to that, or at least consider it. Add in Navy and Stanford (as an example), it is my contention that they would not have difficulty rounding out their schedule. It would just take a few years because of the existing contracts. As far as the SEC, pretty sure LSU would sign on to that. Don't know about other top teams in the SEC or BIG for that matter, as while they schedule ND from time to time, the history just isn't there.
Posted: 12/16/2025 at 10:56 AM ET
(In response to this post by RTFC)

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New sign for the Notre Dame tunnel…..**
CrystalCoveHokie • 12/14/25 11:28 PM ET
i prefer we keep this board
Vippie1 • 12/15/25 01:33 PM ET
As an occasional visitor/poster I like this board as somewhat of a
Tuckahokie • 12/16/25 06:16 AM ET
Interesting concept
Tailgate Guru • 12/15/25 06:00 PM ET
Not asking for any
TerryD • 12/15/25 11:25 PM ET
no one pays a cent for this board- we are all guests.**
Vippie1 • 12/17/25 01:36 PM ET
Yeah but you don't behave like a jackass over here.
mancunian • 12/16/25 08:30 AM ET
Amen**
Femoyer Hokie • 12/15/25 04:03 PM ET
NEGOTIATION Dame gets auto bid if top 12 even if someone is ranked higher!!
Stech • 12/15/25 10:39 AM ET
This is only if there is a 12-team playoff and also the
CobbCountyHokie • 12/15/25 03:27 PM ET
At that point it doesn't matter. There is no way the committee will ...
Atlee Hokie • 12/15/25 08:36 PM ET
The playoff discussion.....
2hhoop3 • 12/15/25 08:03 PM ET
Got a link to that information?**
Stech • 12/15/25 07:56 PM ET
TechSideline Talking with Teel podcast from last week
CobbCountyHokie • 12/15/25 11:19 PM ET
There was a report that some AD are trying to boycott ND games
RandomAsianGuy • 12/15/25 12:43 PM ET
Dan Wolken
TerryD • 12/16/25 01:05 PM ET
So, generally, if you are in the top 11, you are in. What's the big deal? **
Big12 guy • 12/15/25 11:11 AM ET
What if you are #11 and ND is #12? and what if you beat ND hth?**
RandomAsianGuy • 12/15/25 12:38 PM ET
Now - head to head is different Twice now ND has been kept
Big12 guy • 12/15/25 12:44 PM ET
Conflicting stances over the years
TerryD • 12/15/25 01:08 PM ET
Conflating “best” and “playoff” leads to seemingly inconsistent results
Tailgate Guru • 12/15/25 07:35 PM ET
That is a good post. The expanded playoffs will
Big12 guy • 12/16/25 07:40 AM ET
ND isn't in the conference. Miami is. Full stop**
moneal • 12/16/25 08:30 AM ET
I know, and I am on record that Miami should have gotten the
Big12 guy • 12/16/25 08:35 AM ET
No one threw anyone under the bus
Tailgate Guru • 12/16/25 07:58 AM ET
Woe. First, if the subscribers of this community wish me to move on,
Big12 guy • 12/16/25 08:25 AM ET
Most of us are sick of hearing that nonsense, from whatever source
Tailgate Guru • 12/16/25 09:05 AM ET
Haha, now your talking. Do tell, why in the world
Big12 guy • 12/16/25 09:10 AM ET
I am a fan of good behavior
Tailgate Guru • 12/16/25 01:48 PM ET
ND believed they were in a good spot
mancunian • 12/16/25 10:32 AM ET
Point to any prior instances....
TerryD • 12/16/25 01:07 PM ET
Well, you guys pushed Cal and Stanford
mancunian • 12/16/25 02:12 PM ET
When they complained about the perfectly reasonable backing of Miami**
RTFC • 12/16/25 02:03 PM ET
Not a breach of any deal**
TerryD • 12/16/25 03:07 PM ET
No, but not a "great partner" either - per you request**
RTFC • 12/16/25 03:09 PM ET
I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty certain the ND knows
Big12 guy • 12/16/25 11:04 AM ET
I think the ACC is a goner or is in a totally
mancunian • 12/16/25 11:11 AM ET
There may not be enough data points to determine if your generalization is
VTHokie2000 • 12/15/25 11:48 AM ET
Why have the rule?**
Stech • 12/15/25 11:13 AM ET
Why have any automatic qualifers for conference teams?**
TerryD • 12/15/25 12:33 PM ET
Why include teams that aren’t good enough to win their own league?
Tailgate Guru • 12/15/25 07:49 PM ET
Why not have the rule for anyone in the top 12, instead of just Notre Dame?
Stech • 12/15/25 01:16 PM ET
Fine by me
TerryD • 12/15/25 01:39 PM ET
*
TerryD • 12/15/25 01:38 PM ET
*
TerryD • 12/15/25 01:38 PM ET
If the field was established by whomever finishes ranked in the Top 12 in
VTHokie2000 • 12/15/25 01:30 PM ET
Are you saying it’s okay if only ND gets the rule of top 12?**
Stech • 12/15/25 01:33 PM ET
No, I don't think it is a good idea if Notre Dame is the only team with the
VTHokie2000 • 12/15/25 01:42 PM ET
To reward them for the regular season and winning their conference.
VTHokie2000 • 12/15/25 01:09 PM ET
What about the proposed multipile AQ's?
TerryD • 12/15/25 01:10 PM ET
The only participants should be conference champions**
Tailgate Guru • 12/15/25 07:52 PM ET
Your question asked about automatic bids for conference teams and I
VTHokie2000 • 12/15/25 01:17 PM ET
That's fair, as I don't know. Why not have the rule? **
Big12 guy • 12/15/25 11:54 AM ET
Because it shows preferential treatment to ND that no one else gets, if you
Stech • 12/15/25 12:18 PM ET
TV ratings pay the bills. If you take money out
Big12 guy • 12/15/25 12:23 PM ET
Are you sure TV ratings is the driving factor? Given how much money is
VTHokie2000 • 12/15/25 01:49 PM ET
Delete
VTHokie2000 • 12/15/25 01:49 PM ET
The answer is really simple. Kick them out of ACC….
CrystalCoveHokie • 12/15/25 10:46 AM ET
The ACC leadership is stupid, but they are not the old Big East
Tailgate Guru • 12/15/25 07:54 PM ET
That would be awesome.**
goldendomer • 12/15/25 11:28 AM ET
ND would laugh, no exit or GOR fees**
TerryD • 12/15/25 12:34 PM ET
That would be an ideal outcome.
goldendomer • 12/15/25 12:51 PM ET
Yep that would be best case scenario for ND
HokieAl • 12/15/25 12:45 PM ET
The ACC's ND home games in football are probably worth
Big12 guy • 12/15/25 11:13 AM ET
That’s two or three games per year
Tailgate Guru • 12/15/25 07:56 PM ET
That ND needs the scheduling agreement just as much?
RTFC • 12/15/25 11:28 AM ET
They don't NEED the ACC games. KU NEEDS the B12 games, VT NEEDS
Big12 guy • 12/15/25 11:57 AM ET
Conferences control dates
Tailgate Guru • 12/15/25 08:03 PM ET
So, are you saying that the conference would
Big12 guy • 12/16/25 06:24 AM ET
Well...
RTFC • 12/16/25 10:15 AM ET
Things were much different when the current ACC ◄
Big12 guy • 12/16/25 10:56 AM ET
Go look on ND boards...they need end of season games...according to them.
RTFC • 12/16/25 11:49 AM ET
There isn't one single media company
Big12 guy • 12/16/25 07:28 AM ET
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying
Tailgate Guru • 12/16/25 07:14 AM ET
Exactly**
RTFC • 12/16/25 12:17 AM ET
Let’em cook. Hahahaha**
goldendomer • 12/15/25 11:28 AM ET
The 2.5 avg ND games is dwarfed by 200+ ACC games, can we agree on that?
Stech • 12/15/25 11:17 AM ET
Technically, sure, but I was trying to make a point. Could we both
Big12 guy • 12/15/25 11:59 AM ET
I think they may regret their arrogance**
MrFantastic! • 12/15/25 08:44 AM ET
Nope, they have you focused on missing the playoff instead of top 12 guaran
Stech • 12/15/25 11:05 AM ET
Acting like clowns for no reason.**
VT Pez4Life • 12/15/25 08:40 AM ET
Their AD for sure. **
reestuart • 12/15/25 09:03 AM ET
The idea....
TerryD • 12/15/25 12:37 PM ET
There have been instances where VT has been passed over and little was said**
JM397 • 12/18/25 11:19 PM ET
Mad at committee?...fine... Mad at the ACC backing Miami? asinine.**
RTFC • 12/16/25 12:22 AM ET
Exactly.**
reestuart • 12/22/25 08:59 AM ET
No problem at all protesting, but to try and bully the ACC or whatever
reestuart • 12/15/25 01:01 PM ET
Or reasons we are not privy too? FSU complained a lot
Big12 guy • 12/15/25 08:52 AM ET
no they're clowns.**
VT Pez4Life • 12/15/25 08:55 AM ET
Haha, but so was FSU. **
Big12 guy • 12/15/25 08:58 AM ET
100%**
VT Pez4Life • 12/15/25 09:00 AM ET
A bunch of those have been floating around.
mancunian • 12/15/25 08:31 AM ET