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Pylons
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Snobbery exists in every slice of life.

I'm not saying academic snobbery doesn't exist. I know it does. I'm saying it's not a driver of athletics decisions...nothing beyond *maybe* a tie-breaker type role...and then, yes, because of image, not because of any actual academic work. I've seen no indication the B12 ever even wanted Stanford and Cal, so I'm not sure how they chose ACC "instead of" B12. It's also not like the P12 was chock full of top academic institutions beyond Stanford and Cal and a couple others, yet they were perfectly happy there with the highest of academic reputations for how long?
Posted: 08/06/2025 at 07:46 PM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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Notre Dame/ACC/B12 Question
The_VT_Rock • 08/04/25 01:03 PM ET
I heard that ND signed a contract if they joined in 🏈, it would be the ACC
Stech • 08/04/25 03:47 PM ET
I wonder that changed with the change in rights package last time
1947Sunbowl • 08/05/25 09:03 AM ET
I read or heard somewhere that there is a buyout for ND, but it isn't as
Maroon Baboon • 08/04/25 05:55 PM ET
Notre Dame's buyout would be much less because
wwhokie1 • 08/05/25 10:28 AM ET
The contract is supposed to be through the 2036-37 academic year
mrcaniac • 08/04/25 04:29 PM ET
If everyone can get out you better believe ND has an out if needed.
goldendomer • 08/04/25 04:29 PM ET
Big 10, but I would not use the word preferred, more like forced.**
goldendomer • 08/04/25 02:02 PM ET
So if ND was forced to join the Big Ten
Millpoint • 08/05/25 10:12 AM ET
Likely Stanford because for some dumb reason we love them. **
goldendomer • 08/05/25 10:39 AM ET
If they go beyond 20, who else?
Millpoint • 08/05/25 11:43 AM ET
My guess we will literally drag Cal with us.. But Stanford is a school we
goldendomer • 08/05/25 12:11 PM ET
In a 24 team B1G, I see ND/Stanford joining the USC/UCLA/ORE/WA division.
hokieZ71 • 08/05/25 11:28 AM ET
If given the choice, you don't think ND would prefer to be in the East
VTHokie2000 • 08/05/25 11:35 AM ET
Wouldn’t completely surprise me “if” ND joined a Conference, it’s the SEC.
Stech • 08/04/25 06:14 PM ET
ND is not making an athletics move based on "academic conference"
Pylons • 08/05/25 11:00 AM ET
That’s not what Father Jenkins said when they joined the ACC for 5 🏈 games
Stech • 08/05/25 05:18 PM ET
We have a new president and he is much more aggressive with the football
goldendomer • 08/05/25 06:38 PM ET
Point is Academics still matter to ND & the Conference they choose to join,
Stech • 08/05/25 08:26 PM ET
Yes, they (presidents/chancellors) say it for a reason.
Pylons • 08/06/25 10:16 AM ET
I agree with you it has little effect on Academics and I agree it can be
Stech • 08/06/25 06:39 PM ET
Snobbery exists in every slice of life. ◄
Pylons • 08/06/25 07:46 PM ET
Necessary lip service. The charade that athletics somehow has
Pylons • 08/05/25 06:30 PM ET
I think they would stay independent, and ink long term football
Big12 guy • 08/04/25 02:30 PM ET
The Big 12 would not really be won't we're looking for in terms of match-up
goldendomer • 08/04/25 02:34 PM ET
I agree 100%. Money however, could talk a bit louder. Football however,
Big12 guy • 08/04/25 02:45 PM ET
If it is a hybrid Big/12 with a 3 game commitment than ND likely would be
goldendomer • 08/04/25 02:53 PM ET
I agree with this as well. ND has established what their
Big12 guy • 08/04/25 03:27 PM ET
If the P2 ever decide to do their own thing (including scheduling) and ND
VTHokie2000 • 08/05/25 09:57 AM ET
It will come down to access to the national championship - period. **
Big12 guy • 08/05/25 12:16 PM ET
Which national championship though? Currently DI football has 2 national
VTHokie2000 • 08/05/25 12:24 PM ET
The only one that counts. **
Big12 guy • 08/05/25 12:29 PM ET
They both count :-)**
VTHokie2000 • 08/05/25 12:33 PM ET