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It doesn't matter anyway, man - the ACC is dead man walking, and pretty-

much anyone that reasonable assesses the current state of things (except the SMU, Boston College, and Wake Forest fans) know that and will acknowledge it. ND or no ND, the ACC is run by morons, it's a sinking ship, it has been for several years now, and once that exit fee drops below $100m, the implosion will happen almost immediately.
Posted: 12/09/2025 at 12:25 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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What does Notre Dame really want?
RandomAsianGuy • 12/08/25 06:42 PM ET
The faux anger is just a convenient cover story
Tailgate Guru • 12/09/25 06:55 AM ET
The anger is far from faux**
TerryD • 12/09/25 07:35 AM ET
How about misplaced?**
reestuart • 12/09/25 09:04 AM ET
“Contrived” then - irrational in any event **
Tailgate Guru • 12/09/25 08:29 AM ET
ND, the institution, and......
2hhoop3 • 12/09/25 09:15 AM ET
It's disappointing. I don't have anything against ND. I really like
reestuart • 12/09/25 09:33 AM ET
I agree on Freeman.....
2hhoop3 • 12/09/25 09:43 AM ET
I hope Notre Dame stays independent. Play this 12 team schedule every year
OrlandoHokie • 12/08/25 11:51 PM ET
LOL, they'd never do this.
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 10:36 AM ET
Attention. Worship. And money of course.**
Gobbler-100 • 12/08/25 11:44 PM ET
Re #3: Knowing how rock ribbed tough Phillips is ...
Atlee Hokie • 12/08/25 10:33 PM ET
SportsWire published a story about the possibilities
VTChip • 12/08/25 08:43 PM ET
USA Today covering ANY SPORT, esp. college football. is CLICKBAIT!!!**
ancient alien 2018 • 12/08/25 09:36 PM ET
Kinda reads like clickbait.**
RJHokie • 12/08/25 08:46 PM ET
Maybe, but I can't get past the "permanent damage" comment
VTChip • 12/08/25 08:57 PM ET
Will be interesting to see what they consider “permanent damage”.
RJHokie • 12/08/25 09:01 PM ET
Their just being peevish. They whine about everything.**
saret • 12/08/25 09:18 PM ET
Sounds lawyerish. **
saret • 12/08/25 08:59 PM ET
The legalese would be "material breach."**
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 10:46 AM ET
You're right, if he were in court. But, this was a PR whining.
saret • 12/09/25 10:56 AM ET
Agreed. Possibly laying the groundwork for the next step**
VTChip • 12/08/25 09:06 PM ET
Could be. Let'm. I'll repeat, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on
saret • 12/08/25 10:04 PM ET
1 is all that will satisfy the fan base. We’re done
goldendomer • 12/08/25 08:10 PM ET
You want to leave the ACC? Get in line, brother. Welcome to the club.**
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 10:47 AM ET
Then pay your exit fee & go destroy another conference, Big East ACC, next?**
Stech • 12/09/25 07:14 AM ET
That's a good way to make even more schools & people hate ND
EDGEMAN • 12/09/25 06:26 AM ET
How does it feel to be one ring leaders demise college athletics?
MrFantastic! • 12/09/25 05:58 AM ET
I'm sure the Patriot League will take you for other sports
HokiesACC2004 • 12/09/25 05:16 AM ET
LOL!**
Gobbler-100 • 12/08/25 11:39 PM ET
I welcome ND leaving ACC. It can't happen soon enough.**
Atlee Hokie • 12/08/25 09:40 PM ET
Even if they could break GOR where are your non revs going?
RTFC • 12/08/25 09:20 PM ET
The Big East. C'mon people. Let's use our thinking caps here.
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 11:06 AM ET
Big East doesn't play football and yes almost every school wants to
RTFC • 12/09/25 02:16 PM ET
Would they then play UConn home and home?
Truthahn • 12/09/25 12:01 PM ET
I don't think they'd turn up their nose at a H-H with UConn under-
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 12:06 PM ET
Great. Pay the massive exit fee and hit the bricks.**
SMU Pony • 12/08/25 08:30 PM ET
We have one of the best law school’s in the country and the ACC is in
goldendomer • 12/08/25 08:37 PM ET
Get outta here. The ACC has the following law schools ranked above ND
HokieNeal • 12/09/25 10:56 AM ET
LOL, storied ACC members Stanford and Cal.
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 11:08 AM ET
How about you actually read my comment
HokieNeal • 12/09/25 12:32 PM ET
The point remains. Why even include them in making your point?**
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 12:35 PM ET
No good law schools in the ACC, so this should be a slam dunk. LOL.**
reestuart • 12/09/25 09:06 AM ET
Especially when the most obvious claim is ND’s breach of the bowl contract **
Tailgate Guru • 12/09/25 09:17 AM ET
Yeah, that's what I think. ND is the only one with the breach
reestuart • 12/09/25 09:30 AM ET
The mere fact you went here
RTFC • 12/09/25 08:36 AM ET
Why does law school ranking matter at all whatsoever here?
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 11:10 AM ET
Of course not, I was pointing out the arrogance and ignorance
RTFC • 12/09/25 02:16 PM ET
Probably nothing as you say.
RJHokie • 12/09/25 11:22 AM ET
The one thing Notre Dame should fear is litigation
Tailgate Guru • 12/09/25 06:58 AM ET
Happy Trails **
HokiesACC2004 • 12/09/25 05:17 AM ET
Do they teach how to use apostrophes in that law school?
North Main Hokie • 12/09/25 12:55 AM ET
or... to versus too....**
RTFC • 12/09/25 01:08 AM ET
We'll book you a slot on Creighton's msg board so you can try...
Gobbler-100 • 12/08/25 11:43 PM ET
Pray tell was this so called breach?**
Atlee Hokie • 12/08/25 10:19 PM ET
I guess we will find out tomorrow……
RJHokie • 12/08/25 10:25 PM ET
ND ranked #20 tied with Minnesota in this ranking….**
RJHokie • 12/08/25 09:45 PM ET
UVA, Duke and UNC law schools are ranked ahead of ND**
VT ChemE 1986 • 12/08/25 08:54 PM ET
Bye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out**
saret • 12/08/25 08:51 PM ET
Lol at best law school making a difference
SpeakToDamien • 12/08/25 08:43 PM ET
I know it's not gospel, but I see 6 law schools ranked ahead of ND in ACC.**
reestuart • 12/09/25 09:08 AM ET
You have to excuse ....
2hhoop3 • 12/08/25 09:38 PM ET
He's been "Rudyfied", meaning a whining, begging *****!!
ancient alien 2018 • 12/08/25 10:03 PM ET
We've all been there one time or another. What heat ND is taking is
saret • 12/08/25 10:03 PM ET
Assuming that is true...is that a potential GOR breaker?
HokieAl • 12/08/25 08:43 PM ET
They haven't, they're just throwing a hissy fit **
SMU Pony • 12/08/25 08:50 PM ET
"Material breach" hahaha**
SMU Pony • 12/08/25 08:39 PM ET
Do you REALLY think the exit fee is massive? We all know
Big12 guy • 12/08/25 08:34 PM ET
Notre Dame could come up with the exit fee tomorrow if they wanted to.
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 11:13 AM ET
I think my point is that ND's exit fee is based on their Olympics, and
Big12 guy • 12/09/25 11:55 AM ET
Correct - I just looked, and they pay 1/3 of the current $165m exit penalty
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 11:58 AM ET
OK, so those clamoring for them to pay the exit fee and leave
Big12 guy • 12/09/25 12:21 PM ET
It doesn't matter anyway, man - the ACC is dead man walking, and pretty- ◄
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 12:25 PM ET
I hope you are right. growing up in Indiana, and my
Big12 guy • 12/08/25 08:30 PM ET
You keep repeating this garbage about ND being
RVAHokie05 • 12/09/25 03:05 AM ET
Again, "Buh bye."**
saret • 12/08/25 10:06 PM ET
#3 see my posts in the thread below**
daveinop • 12/08/25 07:41 PM ET
This makes sense. #3 it is.**
VT ChemE 1986 • 12/08/25 07:35 PM ET
All the public comments are definitely calculated. ND is not rash
HokieAl • 12/08/25 07:35 PM ET
ACC isn't in weak negotiating position. ND won't give ACC what it needs
daveinop • 12/08/25 07:46 PM ET
Are you under the impression that less guaranteed football games vs. ND is-
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 11:46 AM ET
Obviously not; but that isn't on the table
daveinop • 12/09/25 03:42 PM ET
ND gives ACC teams significant boosts in tv viewership and attendance
HokieAl • 12/08/25 07:54 PM ET
Half of the ACC, VT included, has one foot out the door
daveinop • 12/09/25 07:44 AM ET
In theory, yes
RTFC • 12/09/25 01:03 AM ET
Any team that schedules ND should agree that ND comes to them or no game.
laphroaig • 12/09/25 01:25 PM ET
Teams want the $/exposure.
RTFC • 12/09/25 02:19 PM ET
Home games are more profitable to teams at the P4 level aren't they?
laphroaig • 12/09/25 02:29 PM ET
Works for me ;)**
RTFC • 12/09/25 02:35 PM ET
Any program will schedule ND any time they're available to do so.
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 11:47 AM ET
If they can play anybody/anytime then why did ND ever sign a long term
RTFC • 12/09/25 02:16 PM ET
That's all well and good. All I'm saying is that ND has 90% of the leverage
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 02:43 PM ET
Don't think they have that much leverage.
RTFC • 12/09/25 02:51 PM ET
Name one single (just one) ACC school that would not
Big12 guy • 12/08/25 08:37 PM ET
Big12guy, you might better sit this one out
Tailgate Guru • 12/09/25 07:30 AM ET
I have no desire for ND to be associated with
Big12 guy • 12/09/25 07:45 AM ET
But when? Do you think SEC teams will want ND on their schedule ...
Atlee Hokie • 12/09/25 06:34 AM ET
Yes. They would.
Baltimore_Hokie • 12/09/25 11:54 AM ET
Oh all of the ACC schools want to schedule ND
HokieAl • 12/08/25 08:42 PM ET
We agree. **
Big12 guy • 12/08/25 08:42 PM ET
Are we sure ND doesn't have to worry about filling their schedule?
SMU Pony • 12/08/25 08:06 PM ET
Replacing the ACC with the top of the P2 will not be easy for them.
Truthahn • 12/09/25 12:07 PM ET
They do have to worry about scheduling strong late season games IMO. **
RandomAsianGuy • 12/08/25 10:59 PM ET
Yeah, that’s going to be rough.
RJHokie • 12/08/25 11:02 PM ET
They do have to worry.
HOO86 • 12/08/25 10:05 PM ET
ND doesn't seem worried, do they?**
TerryD • 12/09/25 07:40 AM ET
This guy doesn't seem to.
HOO86 • 12/09/25 07:42 AM ET
I don't think ND is worried. I do think ND is feigning injury
daveinop • 12/09/25 07:53 AM ET
If you dig a bit deeper, it was the BIG that put a kibosh on the game. **
Big12 guy • 12/08/25 08:31 PM ET
They lost their PO spot to Bama, and blame the ACC? “Permanent Damage” is
Stech • 12/08/25 07:27 PM ET
In that case, the ACC should sue ND for punitive damages.
EDGEMAN • 12/09/25 06:32 AM ET
I understand why you are saying Phillips should sue ND 1st, but his kids go
Stech • 12/09/25 06:43 AM ET
So the ACC commish might need to recuse himself in a court case between
laphroaig • 12/09/25 01:37 PM ET
Correct. It's always about money with ND.
Gobbler-100 • 12/08/25 08:07 PM ET
It is about money for every single school**
TerryD • 12/09/25 07:41 AM ET
then you aren't surprised the ACC pushed for Miami in the CFP**
daveinop • 12/09/25 07:57 AM ET
BINGO!**
RTFC • 12/09/25 02:34 PM ET
Quite right, and it should be for the ACC as well
Marooned • 12/08/25 08:32 PM ET