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I hope you guys stay together in perpetuity.

Posted: 12/21/2023 at 05:15 PM ET
(In response to this post by VTCALS72)

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A Lot of Smoke
WarHog38 • 12/17/23 04:44 PM ET
There is a big disconnect with "THE BOARD' and UVA governance
DMV Gobbler • 12/19/23 08:12 AM ET
Academics not football related matters**
manassashoo • 12/19/23 09:28 AM ET
I can tell you right now that ESpin can do NOTHING about ACC GOR**
ombandit • 12/19/23 07:36 AM ET
I think you are right and it is another reason I think the ultimate TV end
VTCALS72 • 12/20/23 02:00 PM ET
Your thinking has two major.......
2hhoop3 • 12/20/23 02:28 PM ET
Mine is an opinion, just like yours
VTCALS72 • 12/20/23 04:23 PM ET
Several things.....
2hhoop3 • 12/20/23 04:34 PM ET
If the schools embrace the pay-to-play model, then it could keep the number
VTHokie2000 • 12/20/23 09:17 PM ET
Common sense, as you used it
VTCALS72 • 12/20/23 05:38 PM ET
Maybe we have identified.....
2hhoop3 • 12/20/23 06:24 PM ET
He blocked me so I can't ask him. But I wonder if he thinks VT would have a
NokieHokie • 12/20/23 08:37 PM ET
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG that last line is devastating!
NokieHokie • 12/20/23 06:55 PM ET
Your first sentence could apply to every one of his posts...**
NokieHokie • 12/20/23 02:57 PM ET
LOL!**
RJHokie • 12/20/23 07:03 PM ET
With Millions Loosely Floating Around a Lot More than Tacky Legal Contracts
WarHog38 • 12/19/23 12:46 PM ET
2036 certainly seems a long way off, but it is closer than you think.
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 08:07 AM ET
Why do you assume the Big XII will get an even better contract next time?
hokieZ71 • 12/19/23 09:00 AM ET
IMHO you nailed it.
VTCALS72 • 12/19/23 12:54 PM ET
The Big XII will hang around. That's a great draw for them.
hokieZ71 • 12/19/23 01:02 PM ET
IMHO the B12 will not be
VTCALS72 • 12/19/23 01:11 PM ET
You said it in your post. the current B12 contract was awarded before
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 09:07 AM ET
Oh no, you mistake me
hokieZ71 • 12/19/23 11:00 AM ET
I'm basing my assumptions that the ACC loses their top brands. Currently,
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 11:15 AM ET
That may be exactly right but without TV revenues
VTCALS72 • 12/21/23 04:59 PM ET
I hope you guys stay together in perpetuity. ** ◄
Big12 guy • 12/21/23 05:15 PM ET
Couple of things......
2hhoop3 • 12/19/23 04:06 PM ET
Kind of agree with that, but when there is a KU basketball or K-State
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 05:13 PM ET
As you've been asked.....
2hhoop3 • 12/19/23 05:26 PM ET
If you don't know, then i guess you can only dispute the reporting
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 05:30 PM ET
As you've been told before.....
2hhoop3 • 12/19/23 05:41 PM ET
Believe what you want. I telling you that until i see proof otherwise
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 05:45 PM ET
And all I told you....
2hhoop3 • 12/19/23 05:51 PM ET
haha, I'll take the hit then, as we have discussed those things before -
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 05:58 PM ET
Sorry but I can say as a vertically challenged American
VTCALS72 • 12/19/23 01:09 PM ET
Haha, great analogy. I'd be willing to bet my bottom dollar
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 01:13 PM ET
How does that matter at all?
VTCALS72 • 12/19/23 01:16 PM ET
WRT time zones, the East Coast is considered to be the most valuable time
VTHokie2000 • 12/19/23 11:33 AM ET
Well, sure, but out here in flyover, there isn't a whole lot of
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 11:42 AM ET
Who said good college football carries any weight in this at all.**
VTCALS72 • 12/19/23 01:13 PM ET
There may be more competition, but there is also a good chance that more
VTHokie2000 • 12/19/23 11:51 AM ET
I think that is why Yormark has UConn on the radar. **
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 12:06 PM ET
That would be a good reason for the Big XII to want to add UConn.
VTHokie2000 • 12/19/23 12:45 PM ET
It's the NE basketball that has Yourmark's attention. Specifically, the
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 01:00 PM ET
Temple is known for its basketball program (and sponsors football) which is
VTHokie2000 • 12/19/23 01:05 PM ET
No one wants Temple, they bring nothing. They will always be
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 01:12 PM ET
FWIW Temple is the 6th most winningest men's DI basketball program behind
VTHokie2000 • 12/19/23 01:37 PM ET
As a fan, no thank you. No stadium, have to go pretty far back to find
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 05:17 PM ET
I will say you have an interesting definition if you think the late 2010s
VTHokie2000 • 12/19/23 06:43 PM ET
Even if the expansion members do generate ratings, they may or may not come
VTHokie2000 • 12/19/23 10:37 AM ET
No doubt. Losing Texas and OU was dramatic, as will losing the top 2 to 4
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 10:49 AM ET
WRT the future of the ACC, I am not sold either way. 8 schools may want to
VTHokie2000 • 12/19/23 10:57 AM ET
None of us knows how this plays out. **
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 10:58 AM ET
The other wild card in all of this is the potential pay-to-play.
VTHokie2000 • 12/19/23 11:25 AM ET
Pay to play has the the potential to blow all of this out of the water.
Big12 guy • 12/19/23 11:29 AM ET
Uva board?
MrFantastic! • 12/19/23 01:05 AM ET
I Don't Think the SEC Likes FSU
WarHog38 • 12/19/23 02:22 AM ET
Fsu recruits well now.
MrFantastic! • 12/19/23 05:43 AM ET
The SEC doesn't need them **
VaTechHokiesACC • 12/19/23 02:58 AM ET
big picture, SEC dont need anyone right now
DMV Gobbler • 12/19/23 08:50 AM ET
i could see the B12 and ACC merging
MrBayAreaHokie • 12/18/23 11:22 PM ET
I don't see the advantages to a merger
obguthr • 12/19/23 04:58 PM ET
As long as conference champs get CFP byes, I don't see it.
Truthahn • 12/19/23 10:37 AM ET
no different culture,
DMV Gobbler • 12/19/23 08:15 AM ET
What about their olympic sports?
VaTechHokiesACC • 12/17/23 09:37 PM ET
Talked a Lot about LaCrosse in Thread
WarHog38 • 12/17/23 09:55 PM ET
That's something to get excited over?**
VaTechHokiesACC • 12/17/23 10:31 PM ET
Well, it is for the Hoowahs.**
RJHokie • 12/17/23 10:43 PM ET
You are right **
VaTechHokiesACC • 12/17/23 11:07 PM ET
Explain how the GOR goes away with only 2 schools leaving. Details please.
Stech • 12/17/23 08:18 PM ET
If the Price is Right
WarHog38 • 12/19/23 01:18 AM ET
First of all I now many of your posts have been pro VT, so your intentions
Stech • 12/19/23 10:40 AM ET
It Is All In the Math
WarHog38 • 12/19/23 12:28 PM ET
Now you are getting closer to what could happen, the majority leave before
Stech • 12/19/23 02:09 PM ET
The ACC May Survive in a Reformed Image
WarHog38 • 12/19/23 03:40 PM ET
IMHO it would be way better off than the 2 PAC + expansion, it would have
Stech • 12/19/23 07:31 PM ET
ESPN wants to throw the least amount of money to both the ACC & B12
EDGEMAN • 12/19/23 06:28 AM ET
Getting Two For Near the Price of One Might Brighten the Prospects For That
WarHog38 • 12/19/23 03:31 PM ET
ESPN and Disney are in the red and likely going to default in rime on
anotherdamnyankeehokie • 12/18/23 07:07 PM ET
I looked at my channel guide last night, and MNF was being aired on...
EDGEMAN • 12/19/23 06:31 AM ET
I Didn't Claim I Had a Legal Degree
WarHog38 • 12/17/23 09:09 PM ET
PAC defectors getting schooled in consequences of ignoring the paperwork**
daveinop • 12/18/23 12:35 PM ET
I do not disagree with this. The network money is the puppetmaster.**
Big12 guy • 12/18/23 11:41 AM ET
Please tell us how in a contract with the Conference, ESPN has control?
Stech • 12/17/23 10:13 PM ET
Obviously the ACC Front Office Will Fight Tooth & Nail
WarHog38 • 12/17/23 10:38 PM ET
If it’s the majority it’s possible, probably still not probable, maybe just
Stech • 12/18/23 09:10 AM ET
Wasting your time.......
2hhoop3 • 12/17/23 10:16 PM ET
An Old Yankee Basketball Fan Masquerading as a Actual Southern Football Fan
WarHog38 • 12/17/23 10:52 PM ET
Don't underestimate Virginia Tech...
Old Line Hokie • 12/18/23 12:51 AM ET
I dunno about 1990s Big East being better than the ACC
Brother Griswold • 12/18/23 09:30 AM ET
I'm not sure either conference was much to write home about
Hokie Fiji • 12/19/23 09:23 AM ET
Top to bottom it was **
VaTechHokiesACC • 12/19/23 03:50 AM ET
Miami won a national title in 2001.
Old Line Hokie • 12/18/23 12:55 PM ET
I was talking 1990s specifically - including early 2000s it is a push
Brother Griswold • 12/18/23 01:51 PM ET
I Spent a Lot of Time in NOVA
WarHog38 • 12/18/23 02:21 AM ET
I have a law degree, and I don't think breaking the GoR is a viable option**
tarheelblue • 12/17/23 09:24 PM ET
ESPN does not own the GOR at all
HokieAl • 12/17/23 08:13 PM ET
Very true; but ESPN could probably dissolve it. The Bylaws state
daveinop • 12/19/23 08:10 AM ET
Thanks so much for clarifying
DMV Gobbler • 12/18/23 09:46 AM ET
ESPN Pays the Bills
WarHog38 • 12/17/23 09:37 PM ET
ESPN doesn't pay the bills. ESPN Pays for purchased content. They purchased
HokieToph • 12/18/23 09:40 AM ET
I Think You are Talking Semantics
WarHog38 • 12/18/23 02:39 PM ET
No he's not, you need to understand who legally owns the content
MrBayAreaHokie • 12/18/23 11:32 PM ET
They Cowered To Those Record Labels Before They Became Musical Superstars
WarHog38 • 12/19/23 02:06 AM ET
Yes we all know they reluctantly pay the bills. But that is not the GOR
HokieAl • 12/17/23 09:52 PM ET
This is a good board, I have never commented on that saber version.**
WarHog38 • 12/17/23 10:01 PM ET
If it was up to UNC, the ACC would only stretch from GT to UMd. If that.
Maroon Baboon • 12/17/23 06:38 PM ET
UNC has had it in for VT since we hired their football coach away back...
EDGEMAN • 12/17/23 04:58 PM ET
Will FSU Stay in the ACC Another 10 Years?
WarHog38 • 12/17/23 06:57 PM ET
yes**
daveinop • 12/18/23 12:38 PM ET
They would be much better off if their donors just made up the difference.
EDGEMAN • 12/17/23 09:54 PM ET
Show me the money and leave
VaTechHokiesACC • 12/17/23 09:38 PM ET
2003. That was the best chance for us to get into the SEC. When the ACC
Maroon Baboon • 12/17/23 06:57 PM ET
Disagree. 2012 was likely our best chance to get into the SEC
Hokie Fiji • 12/18/23 11:38 AM ET
2012 was a PR and political non-starter. VT wasn't leaving the ACC after
Maroon Baboon • 12/18/23 01:10 PM ET
Agree wrt 2012.
RJHokie • 12/18/23 11:58 AM ET
2003... the last UVA win over Tech Football until 2019...**
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/17/23 10:41 PM ET
I think VT
RiverVT • 12/17/23 06:20 PM ET