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Nice points if it was a different post you were responding to

I did not mention VT at all in my post. So if you focus solely on VT, well that is a different thing all together. This was a response to a wishful thinking B12 position post. So beginning again on the topic of what this does to VT, ok I will play. As long as Miami, FSU and Clemson are in the league, I believe it correct to say that those 3 will get most of the ND games. Why? because it is certainly anticipated that those games will draw more than any other ACC teams. I agree it is not good for VT although I believe unequal revenue sharing will increase more than those 3 teams. The problem then will be how the ACC takes care of the Wakes and the BC types. For sure VT, NCSU etc will be the schools that replace Clemson, FSU and Miami on the weaker sisters schedules. I see that coming but there is absolutely nothing VT can really do about it. That is one reason I want to see those 3, or at least FSU and Miami gone. You want to see VT promoted as a "brand" team and seen in the better time slots and channels. So do I but that is not happening in the ACC as long as the 3 are sucking up the oxygen. But it would be the same anywhere else under current conditions. And that is still at the heart of what you expect somebody to do for VT. If not Pry, then Whit, If not Whit then Dr. Sands. But that idea still assumes that VT has some brand power, or that any conference will help build up VT. I do not believe we do. I hate it too but IIWII. And one more point, several years back I opined that UNC would be seen as more desirable, like a FSU/Miami/Clemson than VT would. That has shown to be correct. If you think that national brand, the "U" image is not a big seller to a national TV audience, then I don't know what to say. Big media is banking on what they will get out of teams like Miami and UNC. It isn't game day excitement and not even necessarily a high number of wins. It is someone who can bring their own money and a name that is easy to sell.
Posted: 05/07/2025 at 01:00 PM ET
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Clemson and ND agree to meet for 12 years
The_VT_Rock 05/06/25 10:51 AM ET
Sounds to me like the ACC is waiting on the SEC to go to 9 games
Sunsetunderground 05/06/25 05:07 PM ET
9 games with 17 teams is actually easier to schedule: 2/7/7...
BROman Hokie 05/07/25 10:35 AM ET
Mathematically impossible…
RandomAsianGuy 05/07/25 06:31 PM ET
Edit: NVM
BROman Hokie 05/08/25 12:37 PM ET
Mathematically it is possible though.
VTHokie2000 05/08/25 11:42 AM ET
How about a 10 team regionally and historically
mancunian 05/07/25 10:31 AM ET
Interesting deal
TerryD 05/06/25 05:28 PM ET
True but the ACC is saying all non scheduled Clemson and Stanford games
Sunsetunderground 05/07/25 12:44 PM ET
Future: South Bend judge Séamus O'Gallagher rules against the ACC.
Truthahn 05/07/25 01:00 PM ET
ND 2029 opponents
TerryD 05/06/25 04:34 PM ET
It will be awful for the college game if the USC-ND series is discontinued.
Maroon Baboon 05/06/25 05:04 PM ET
That never even had a 1% chance
TerryD 05/06/25 06:53 PM ET
I understand the sentiment. I will say this, I am surprised that USC people
Maroon Baboon 05/06/25 08:29 PM ET
USC people keep threatening....
TerryD 05/06/25 09:31 PM ET
Yes, I think ND is doing this because they are getting flack from USC.
Truthahn 05/07/25 11:35 AM ET
You'll be shocked to find that, around here, a lot of people care more-
Baltimore_Hokie 05/07/25 10:36 AM ET
Are the seven new games part of the ACC/ND five game agreement?
Truthahn 05/06/25 03:22 PM ET
There must be conflicting information out there.
Baltimore_Hokie 05/07/25 09:35 AM ET
Ross Dellinger tweet:
TerryD 05/06/25 04:01 PM ET
Sounds like step one in removing the have-nots from the ACC.
wwhokie1 05/06/25 01:18 PM ET
Two divisions: The Big Dogs and The Runts
Truthahn 05/06/25 03:25 PM ET
As expected.
RandomAsianGuy 05/06/25 12:19 PM ET
There currently is no series
TerryD 05/06/25 09:36 PM ET
Some of the articles say that Stan and Clemson now have annual ND games.
Truthahn 05/07/25 09:16 AM ET
If they wanted to be accurate, they should .....
TerryD 05/07/25 02:28 PM ET
The Clemson & Stanford series won't count toward the 5 ACC - ND games
cburgroop 05/06/25 02:06 PM ET
ND says that they do**
TerryD 05/07/25 07:02 AM ET
If true, they buried the lede. That is huge news.
Truthahn 05/06/25 03:28 PM ET
Confusing statements within the same ESPN article.
RandomAsianGuy 05/06/25 06:50 PM ET
Probably both. When it's Clemson's turn to play Notre Dame it would count,
wwhokie1 05/06/25 09:28 PM ET
I think you are right.
RandomAsianGuy 05/06/25 11:57 PM ET
That is apparently surprising news to ND
TerryD 05/07/25 02:29 PM ET
That arrangement is very beneficial to the ACC, if it holds.
Truthahn 05/07/25 09:29 AM ET
That's all good and well for FSU, Clemson, and Miami, but what about NCSU
Big12 guy 05/06/25 05:32 PM ET
It is good for everyone, ND, Clemson, the ACC. A perfect deal.
Truthahn 05/07/25 10:12 AM ET
I'm not sure how you can look at that deal and arrive anywhere except-
Baltimore_Hokie 05/07/25 10:33 AM ET
No doubt. It's good for TV ratings, and makes the
Big12 guy 05/07/25 10:21 AM ET
So if Clemson, FSU and Miami stay it is bad for the rest of the ACC
VTCALS72 05/07/25 07:49 AM ET
Put on your thinking cap for one second, and really think about what you're
Baltimore_Hokie 05/07/25 10:10 AM ET
Nice points if it was a different post you were responding to
VTCALS72 05/07/25 01:00 PM ET
So, my big takeaway from your post-
Baltimore_Hokie 05/09/25 10:01 AM ET
No, I do not think that the b12 can go around the country,
Big12 guy 05/07/25 08:13 AM ET
I think WVU would feel they could be on the upper side of the unequal
VTCALS72 05/07/25 08:58 AM ET
Unequal payouts are on the table, that
Big12 guy 05/07/25 09:23 AM ET
Uneven revenue sharing is not going to be just an ACC thing.
wwhokie1 05/07/25 12:17 AM ET
If there is an objective way for schools to
Big12 guy 05/07/25 06:11 AM ET
This all means some ACC schools will fall even further behind.
wwhokie1 05/07/25 12:58 PM ET
LOL. Why do you make every issue about the Big 12?
RandomAsianGuy 05/06/25 06:51 PM ET
Your response is why. BTW, what happens when there are
Big12 guy 05/06/25 08:01 PM ET
Then? I have been saying this so many times. The ACC will target the B12.**
RandomAsianGuy 05/06/25 10:50 PM ET
Interesting. Louisville and Duke to the B12? If the conference
Big12 guy 05/06/25 11:57 AM ET
The haves are the ones with the initiative to take.
hokieZ71 05/06/25 11:05 AM ET