WVI and Cincy was a no brainer for the ACC in my opinion, but at the time,
before we had a P2, all the conferences, including the B12 with Texas, thought they had a solid footing to compete for the National Championship, and the monies the conferences got were much closer than today. If you remember, at the time, Louisville was the number one pick for the B12, but Texas voted against them and Cincy, and WVU was too strong of a football brand to ignore. That, and the B12 even back then wasn't as pretentious about academics as the PAC and ACC were. So, ..., The B12 picked up TCU and WVU for their football.
WVU on an island for so long was insane, and dearly effected their recruiting. They would have been much better in the ACC, But I use that term (ACC) with an asterisk. The original ACC before FSU and the Big East schools, was an absolute nothing burger in football. Except for a run by Clemson in the early 80's, no one would even know they supported division one football. They were a basketball conference, through and through. (this was all before Clemson went on their recent run).
The B12 had no business picking up WVU in my opinion, but it was too good of a brand at the time to be left out. No one else wanted them, and it turns out that is what the B12 conference is today, teams that no one else wanted.
Texas and Oklahoma would much rather lose to a Georgia, Bama, or an LSU than to the likes of KSU - and make no mistake, year in, and year out, KSU competed with them.
Thread Replies (39)
For the states of NC and VA...
-- The_VT_Rock
Feb 12, 2025 at 10:48 AM ET
The_VT_Rock
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02/12/25 10:48 AM ET
Does UVA even want to join the SEC?
-- Sunsetunderground
Feb 13, 2025 at 12:38 PM ET
Sunsetunderground
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02/13/25 12:38 PM ET
UNC and NC State will go together, period. This has been reported here in
-- Poultrygeist
Feb 12, 2025 at 07:11 PM ET
Poultrygeist
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02/12/25 07:11 PM ET
If it was about overall Athletic Brand Stanford’s 1st taken, it’s NOT, it’s
-- Stech
Feb 12, 2025 at 07:34 PM ET
Stech
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02/12/25 07:34 PM ET
The P2 keeps vacillating between states/schools to keep us all
-- saret
Feb 12, 2025 at 05:22 PM ET
saret
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02/12/25 05:22 PM ET
Almost spot on. The P2 has already won this war
-- VTCALS72
Feb 12, 2025 at 05:34 PM ET
VTCALS72
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02/12/25 05:34 PM ET
I’m worried that we overestimate the importance of VA NC DC
-- HokieAl
Feb 12, 2025 at 05:15 PM ET
HokieAl
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02/12/25 05:15 PM ET
The P2 doesn't need everyone they currently have.
-- VTCALS72
Feb 12, 2025 at 05:39 PM ET
VTCALS72
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02/12/25 05:39 PM ET
It's clear as day that UNC is definitely going to leave-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 12, 2025 at 01:58 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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02/12/25 01:58 PM ET
The question is when 2031 (6 yrs) or 2036 (11 yrs), a lot will happen in 6
-- Stech
Feb 16, 2025 at 06:49 AM ET
Stech
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02/16/25 06:49 AM ET
Could be but if we are in the trash bin, the B12 will be right there too.**
-- VTCALS72
Feb 12, 2025 at 05:01 PM ET
VTCALS72
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02/12/25 05:01 PM ET
No. The "trash bin" will be-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 12, 2025 at 05:13 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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02/12/25 05:13 PM ET
You're making some pretty big leaps...
-- jesuisvtguy
Feb 12, 2025 at 08:35 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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02/12/25 08:35 PM ET
Wow, I didn't realize WF, BC, and Duke weren't already ACC members.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 13, 2025 at 10:17 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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02/13/25 10:17 AM ET
Can't understand that is what you want.
-- VTCALS72
Feb 12, 2025 at 07:04 PM ET
VTCALS72
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02/12/25 07:04 PM ET
I don't hate the ACC. I just recognize that the ACC is broken, and that-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 13, 2025 at 10:14 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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02/13/25 10:14 AM ET
And that is one of the main reasons your conference is having
-- Big12 guy
Feb 12, 2025 at 07:47 PM ET
Big12 guy
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02/12/25 07:47 PM ET
WVI and Cincy was a no brainer for the ACC in my opinion, but at the time,
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-- Big12 guy
Feb 16, 2025 at 08:23 AM ET
Big12 guy
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02/16/25 08:23 AM ET
West Virginia is in significant decline
-- SMU Pony
Feb 13, 2025 at 12:44 AM ET
SMU Pony
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02/13/25 12:44 AM ET
WVU makes sense for the ACC because of rivalries.
-- HOO86
Feb 15, 2025 at 09:18 PM ET
HOO86
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02/15/25 09:18 PM ET
No doubt. Louisville always made more sense to me, but as you know,
-- Big12 guy
Feb 13, 2025 at 07:23 AM ET
Big12 guy
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02/13/25 07:23 AM ET
The issue is that no big12 school will increase the value of the ACC...
-- jesuisvtguy
Feb 12, 2025 at 08:38 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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02/12/25 08:38 PM ET
Oh please! You're starting to sound like Boston sports fans.
-- saret
Feb 12, 2025 at 08:14 PM ET
saret
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02/12/25 08:14 PM ET
Haha, Boston fans are the worst. My apologies. **
-- Big12 guy
Feb 12, 2025 at 08:36 PM ET
Big12 guy
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02/12/25 08:36 PM ET
A sample of the emails being exchanged btwn UNC BOT chairman and trustees:
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 12, 2025 at 03:48 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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02/12/25 03:48 PM ET
ACC is in extra trouble if any of the Georgia tax bill type stuff passes
-- HokieAl
Feb 12, 2025 at 02:54 PM ET
HokieAl
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02/12/25 02:54 PM ET
Of course this is state taxes only.**
-- VTCALS72
Feb 12, 2025 at 05:02 PM ET
VTCALS72
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02/12/25 05:02 PM ET
TX, TN, FL don't have state income taxes so they're trying to level
-- 1400E
Feb 12, 2025 at 04:11 PM ET
1400E
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02/12/25 04:11 PM ET
True but my property tax here in Texas is humongous. Of course, a college
-- HouClone
Feb 12, 2025 at 05:48 PM ET
HouClone
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02/12/25 05:48 PM ET
We are all in a race to the bottom.
-- tarheelblue
Feb 12, 2025 at 04:41 PM ET
tarheelblue
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02/12/25 04:41 PM ET
I think this has already passed and is in effect in Alabama.**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 12, 2025 at 03:42 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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02/12/25 03:42 PM ET
and Alabama just proposed the same bill today
-- HokieAl
Feb 12, 2025 at 03:17 PM ET
HokieAl
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02/12/25 03:17 PM ET
Crazy that some representative or group even proposed... **
-- VT757to276
Feb 12, 2025 at 03:34 PM ET
VT757to276
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02/12/25 03:34 PM ET
ESPN has to be very careful about their next steps
-- HokieAl
Feb 12, 2025 at 01:01 PM ET
HokieAl
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02/12/25 01:01 PM ET
UNC is the only school that can choose their conference
-- Sunsetunderground
Feb 12, 2025 at 12:22 PM ET
Sunsetunderground
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02/12/25 12:22 PM ET
I don't think there is any scenario where the B1G would take NC State
-- tarheelblue
Feb 12, 2025 at 02:15 PM ET
tarheelblue
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02/12/25 02:15 PM ET
My guess is the state politicians will make a deal
-- HokieAl
Feb 12, 2025 at 09:22 PM ET
HokieAl
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02/12/25 09:22 PM ET
I imagine NC pols will be protective of the ACC
-- SMU Pony
Feb 13, 2025 at 12:50 AM ET
SMU Pony
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02/13/25 12:50 AM ET