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VTHokie2000
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I don't bet on sports, rarely play the lottery, don't participate in a

fantasy league, and only been to 1 casino (in Cherokee, NC) once. The most "gambling" I do is in the stock market and even then I stick to mutual funds. I consider myself a sports junkie. If it is a sport, then I will either watch it, play it or both. Where I first noticed gambling with sports is with soccer. It seems like a good number of soccer clubs (especially in Europe) have a primary sponsorship deal with a gambling site/casino/company. It doesn't even matter the tier because you will see a third tier club, which may be equivalent to DIII in college, have a primary sponsorship deal with 32Red. That level of interest in gambling appears to have made its way across the pond. So far I would say the NCAA has done a reasonable effort to minimize the impact gambling has on college athletics. Will that same level of effort still exist if the March Madness money goes away? Or will enough schools, regardless of division level, go into survival mode and be open to seeking an alternative source. That "alternative source" is what is leading my gut towards gambling because I do think the media money could be the tip of the iceberg. I guess that is why ESPN starting its own gambling site raises a few alarm bells for me because it seems like it may be only a matter of time before the schools (and maybe even the players) will want to tap into that resource. It may start out at the P2 level, but I don't see how it doesn't spread to the other levels particularly if it gives the politicians an out card to not get involved in this mess. Politicians may feel political pressure to stick their nose in the situation if schools with political clout end up getting left out of the P2 party. It is probably a no win situation for the politicians because it is unlikely the politicians will have enough influence to force the P2 to add the left out schools. Hence why I see gambling money as a potential life raft for the politicians because a whole bunch of money could go to the schools left out so they could do just fine and no longer pine to be associated with the P2s. Likewise, gaining access to the gambling money probably comes with a whole host of problems. The NIL and booster problems that schools currently deal with now may be nothing to the problems they will face with the gambling money. I do hope the schools think long and hard before they open Pandora's box to gain access to the gambling money. Once it is open, and it may already too late, then there is definitely no turning back because the damage has already been done.
Posted: 01/25/2024 at 08:59 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Next year, the ACC is positioned to get 3 invites to the playoffs. FSU
Big12 guy 01/25/24 02:05 PM ET
I will pay money just to see the first Stanford/Hoo fan interactions
MrBayAreaHokie 01/28/24 05:06 PM ET
ACC will be a one-bid league.
Maroon Baboon 01/26/24 11:22 PM ET
all 11-win P level schools will qualify and most of the 10-2's
daveinop 01/31/24 08:13 PM ET
only if Clemson and FSU get 10 wins or more. One of those 2 will likely
VPI_1998 01/27/24 04:52 AM ET
Perhaps. But there is also an "SEC" and a "B1G" brand to protect.
Maroon Baboon 01/27/24 12:56 PM ET
It is this scenario i am talking about. I wasn't trying to
Big12 guy 01/27/24 07:13 AM ET
LMAO**
HokieHollar 01/26/24 09:34 PM ET
Also, the committee only differed from AP on one spot and mirrored coaches
Concord Dan 01/26/24 06:19 PM ET
Looking at next year, I still thin a two loss FSU, Miami, or Clemson
Big12 guy 01/26/24 07:48 PM ET
If VT isn't one.of them, the system is RIGGED!!!!!!**
VT ChemE 1986 01/26/24 11:39 AM ET
Only way Miami makes the playoffs is if Jim Larranaga coaches football**
OrlandoHokie 01/26/24 11:03 AM ET
🤣🤣**
Stech 01/26/24 12:03 PM ET
they need to figure out how to lose fewer than 5 games.**
reestuart 01/26/24 11:53 AM ET
Yeah, that's the important fact **
HokiesACC2004 01/27/24 10:21 PM ET
After watching FSU go undefeated and not make it’s hard to see more than 1
Stech 01/25/24 10:53 PM ET
I had to go back to 2014 to find a year in which the ACC had two teams…
lawhokie 01/25/24 09:47 PM ET
I would be shocked if the ACC gets 3.
VTCALS72 01/25/24 07:55 PM ET
Zero chance whatsoever. Only an outside chance at 2.**
reestuart 01/26/24 11:52 AM ET
We won't.**
EDGEMAN 01/26/24 06:29 AM ET
Make that a snowball's chance in heck we get three, and...
EDGEMAN 01/26/24 08:48 AM ET
The ACC might get 1 at-large bid, but I doubt it gets 2 at-large bids.
VTHokie2000 01/25/24 06:35 PM ET
The six highest-ranked remaining teams will fill out the rest of the 12-tea
Concord Dan 01/26/24 11:31 AM ET
Who's being naive, Kay?**
HWA 01/26/24 06:14 PM ET
The group that will vote to determine that ranking is the same group that
VTHokie2000 01/26/24 02:57 PM ET
Who do you.....
2hhoop3 01/26/24 12:14 PM ET
Depends
VaTechHokiesACC 01/26/24 03:11 AM ET
I agree that circumstances can vary from year to year. However, remember
VTHokie2000 01/26/24 10:11 AM ET
Agreed. I think only 1 team outside B10/SEC/ND will get an at large
VT ChemE 1986 01/25/24 06:52 PM ET
You could be right - and if that is the way this plays out, then all
Big12 guy 01/25/24 06:50 PM ET
Don't disagree with much of that, but
RTFC 01/26/24 10:46 AM ET
I have disagreed with you a lot
VTCALS72 01/25/24 07:52 PM ET
LOL. I remember listening on the am and every time there was a big play
IB4TECH 01/26/24 05:48 PM ET
What is unclear right now is how much resources the networks are interested
VTHokie2000 01/25/24 07:26 PM ET
You have so many good point in that post, that it's difficult to pick
Big12 guy 01/25/24 07:52 PM ET
I agree that the leftovers could have their own party and be just as happy.
VTHokie2000 01/25/24 08:13 PM ET
"ends up brokering a sponsorship deal with a gambling company"
HWA 01/26/24 12:32 PM ET
It may be reversed for now in LA. However, the political climate is ever
VTHokie2000 01/26/24 02:48 PM ET
Interestly to me at least, i chose not to comment on your gambling
Big12 guy 01/25/24 08:33 PM ET
I don't bet on sports, rarely play the lottery, don't participate in a
VTHokie2000 01/25/24 08:59 PM ET
Minor clarification, ESPN didn't start a gambling site.
HWA 01/26/24 12:29 PM ET
No, I didn't know Penn Gambling had a website and that is what is being
VTHokie2000 01/26/24 02:36 PM ET
ESPN was definitely vested (prior to Penn Gaming)
HWA 01/26/24 06:11 PM ET
Everyone should read your and Big 12 guy's comments
mancunian 01/26/24 08:18 AM ET
They were interesting.....
2hhoop3 01/26/24 12:23 PM ET
It could be an even bigger nightmare to deal with than what is currently
VTHokie2000 01/26/24 03:13 PM ET
I'm putting my money on 1 ACC invite, and 1 B12 invite
EDGEMAN 01/25/24 03:51 PM ET
By keeping the conference together do you mean
mancunian 01/25/24 02:58 PM ET
Yes, I was referring to FSU. It seems to me their best shot of making
Big12 guy 01/25/24 03:05 PM ET