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Ya - I'm apprised. Now, I have no idea how this plays out legally, as

there are opinions all over the place. What I think will happen, is that FSU and the ACC will end up with a figure that FSU is willing to pay, but high enough that it would not be feasible for many to follow - P2 invite or not. What I do know is that in 2014 a Big 12 network was proposed, and Texas led the fight to not get one. In fairness, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and even KU thought they would be better off not tying themselves down for a long term contract. So I have lived this once, and if there are teams in a conference that think they are better than the rest, it's time to cut bait, as I don't see this ending well if it actually goes to trial.
Posted: 01/18/2024 at 06:20 PM ET
(In response to this post by DMV Gobbler)

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ACC filing amended complaint against FSU seeking damages (link)**
Nortazhokie • 01/18/24 11:07 AM ET
The GOR will dissolve after 2025
HokieZig • 01/18/24 11:32 AM ET
I'll give you something equally as likely
MrBayAreaHokie • 01/19/24 01:57 PM ET
Well played **
HokiesACC2004 • 01/20/24 10:25 AM ET
In a kinda warped way, I could see that Orlando scenario play out……
CrystalCoveHokie • 01/19/24 06:09 PM ET
why would espn care, there was no $$ to those three
MrBayAreaHokie • 01/19/24 01:50 PM ET
Agree. The ACC likely did not consult with ESPN but rather
WBGV • 01/19/24 12:04 PM ET
"The three schools added have a history of poor viewership"
SMU Pony • 01/20/24 08:27 AM ET
Welcome to the board**
YardBird • 01/20/24 05:42 PM ET
Dallas will always be a Longhorn market, but I think many
Big12 guy • 01/20/24 11:08 AM ET
I guess I missed his prediction on the amendment**
daveinop • 01/19/24 03:11 PM ET
It makes no sense for the ACC to expand without consulting ESPN
cburgroop • 01/19/24 02:20 PM ET
Why would Clemson do that when they can just sit back and let FSU do it?**
tarheelblue • 01/19/24 01:19 PM ET
exactly**
MrBayAreaHokie • 01/19/24 01:48 PM ET
LOL, not even close to being true **
Hokie83 • 01/19/24 10:38 AM ET
Nearly everything in that post is horsefeathers **
ren_hoek • 01/18/24 11:41 PM ET
Where do you get that ESPN didn't have input on adding schools?
VTCALS72 • 01/18/24 10:26 PM ET
Maybe that's what happened
vtfaninnc • 01/18/24 07:03 PM ET
not exactly
DMV Gobbler • 01/18/24 06:14 PM ET
How do you know the GOR won't still be in force even if that happens?
VTCALS72 • 01/18/24 10:24 PM ET
The Longhorn Network will shutdown this summer.
hokieball • 01/18/24 09:05 PM ET
Why would ESPN want to shut down ACCN when it's making them a lot of money?**
tarheelblue • 01/19/24 12:29 AM ET
So they’re going to renew with the ACC in perpetuity?
hokieball • 01/20/24 09:38 AM ET
A voice of reason **
VaTechHokiesACC • 01/19/24 04:06 AM ET
Because Texas agreed to it, very different situation with ACCN.**
Stech • 01/18/24 09:30 PM ET
It’s there because of the contract, right?
hokieball • 01/18/24 10:01 PM ET
If enough schools leave the ACC, then ESPN may not want to renew. Otherwise
Stech • 01/18/24 10:19 PM ET
Where are you getting.....
2hhoop3 • 01/18/24 10:34 PM ET
Straight from the mouths of College Coaches at small private schools, over
Stech • 01/20/24 10:19 AM ET
My question....
2hhoop3 • 01/20/24 04:31 PM ET
I don’t remember saying all have them, but many do, and these aren’t Ivy
Stech • 01/20/24 04:46 PM ET
I was just explaining.......
2hhoop3 • 01/20/24 05:46 PM ET
I’m a nobody, but you do like to challenge me, even when sometimes I know a
Stech • 01/20/24 07:19 PM ET
I think it would be more that the ACCN is making money. The
Big12 guy • 01/18/24 10:18 PM ET
ESPN could possibly demand money they invested in the ACCN, because the
VTNuke • 01/18/24 07:13 PM ET
The ACCN could be sold. A streaming entity might be interested in
Big12 guy • 01/18/24 06:22 PM ET
Maybe Peacock will buy it. TIC**
MP4VT2004 • 01/18/24 11:24 PM ET
Who watches the ACCN? If teams start leaving, the ACCN is going to die
VTNuke • 01/18/24 07:15 PM ET
FWIW I’ll watch the occasional show on ACCN
Marooned • 01/18/24 09:16 PM ET
It's a linier channel, and an amazon could easily get more content
Big12 guy • 01/18/24 07:19 PM ET
Phillips has said repeatedly that the ACC can add up to 4 schools
Sunsetunderground • 01/18/24 04:31 PM ET
This is why I think we let FSU go around 2028.
Truthahn • 01/19/24 12:11 PM ET
Big 12 teams have no incentive to jump to an ACC without FSU in it.**
tarheelblue • 01/19/24 01:21 PM ET
Not saying you’re wrong, but do you have a link to that statement, I’ve
Stech • 01/18/24 09:34 PM ET
Keep in mind that ESPN has the leverage
Dbl Eagle • 01/18/24 05:06 PM ET
two things that can't both be true
daveinop • 01/19/24 03:19 PM ET
If ESPN cancels our contract, we should be able to get a better one.
Truthahn • 01/19/24 12:16 PM ET
This is entirely possible. **
Big12 guy • 01/19/24 02:23 PM ET
ESPN isn't paying a dime for those schools
VT ChemE 1986 • 01/18/24 03:57 PM ET
Wrong, ESPN is still forced to pay for those schools.**
HokieZig • 01/21/24 03:58 PM ET
They have foregone payments from the conference, but I think the conference
tarheelblue • 01/18/24 04:09 PM ET
ESPN is fine with the ACC's new Texas and CA schools.
Truthahn • 01/19/24 12:19 PM ET
Agree, I think ESPN likes the SF Bay additions...
Old Line Hokie • 01/19/24 01:16 PM ET
Agreed
HOO86 • 01/19/24 09:55 PM ET
Correct....ESPN pays the ACC....
TerryD • 01/18/24 04:50 PM ET
Not a way to run a conference in my opinion. It's Texas light and the old
Big12 guy • 01/18/24 06:03 PM ET
They have a path and a number.
VTCALS72 • 01/19/24 09:39 AM ET
THAT is a good answer. haha**
Big12 guy • 01/19/24 10:07 AM ET
All they have do to is pay up **
VaTechHokiesACC • 01/19/24 02:33 AM ET
The ACC would let FSU out if FSU would pay the exit fee and GoR buyout.
tarheelblue • 01/19/24 12:34 AM ET
You do know that UW and UO are not getting full shares from the B1G?
mrcaniac • 01/18/24 06:20 PM ET
Yes, I know, and again, in my opinion, it's no way to run a conference. **
Big12 guy • 01/18/24 06:24 PM ET
You join a conference in the middle of a TV contract
mrcaniac • 01/18/24 06:36 PM ET
Per the ACC's suit, they have always made equal payments**
vtfaninnc • 01/18/24 07:07 PM ET
Maybe since FSU joined, but not before**
mrcaniac • 01/18/24 07:25 PM ET
check para 122**
vtfaninnc • 01/19/24 09:14 PM ET
Still doesn't change my opinion. The B12 now has two schools
Big12 guy • 01/18/24 06:48 PM ET
Because
VTCALS72 • 01/19/24 09:51 AM ET
I disagree. i think the networks will find out that they
Big12 guy • 01/19/24 10:07 AM ET
Rutgers athletic program hemorrhages red ink**
vtfaninnc • 01/18/24 07:09 PM ET
Ouch. seems they are in a load of hurt. I guess if they were getting
Big12 guy • 01/18/24 07:17 PM ET
How would going to the AAC help them financially?**
tarheelblue • 01/19/24 12:38 AM ET
That was tongue in cheek. **
Big12 guy • 01/19/24 08:34 AM ET
No kidding, Big 10 pays boat loads of money
VaTechHokiesACC • 01/19/24 04:08 AM ET
The takeaway is that they are going broke with all the Big 10 $$$**
vtfaninnc • 01/19/24 09:16 PM ET
Well, ACC schools do things differently than wild cat cowboy big 12
DMV Gobbler • 01/18/24 06:08 PM ET
Ya - I'm apprised. Now, I have no idea how this plays out legally, as ◄
Big12 guy • 01/18/24 06:20 PM ET
What makes anyone think that FSU can pay this amount
mrcaniac • 01/18/24 06:29 PM ET
Not buy out the GOR as it stands, but a settlement. It's not that
Big12 guy • 01/18/24 07:48 PM ET
The other ACC schools have no incentive to settle for that low of an amount
tarheelblue • 01/19/24 12:44 AM ET
That's fine, but no matter how strong your case is, going to
Big12 guy • 01/19/24 11:06 AM ET
The ACC can't settle, because the moment they settle it's all over.
tarheelblue • 01/19/24 01:17 PM ET
So, I don't see it that way. How many schools would pay the $250M+? say
Big12 guy • 01/19/24 02:00 PM ET
You need to exit.......
2hhoop3 • 01/19/24 09:25 PM ET
Can't wait to buy you several drinks when I meet you
Big12 guy • 01/19/24 10:38 PM ET
I believe you are incorrect wrt consulting with ESPN
RJHokie • 01/18/24 12:20 PM ET
I can't imagine the ACC adding those schools without consulting ESPN**
EDGEMAN • 01/18/24 12:41 PM ET
Do you think ESPN wanted those schools?
HokieZig • 01/18/24 01:42 PM ET
Yes
mrcaniac • 01/18/24 03:11 PM ET
You might want to......
2hhoop3 • 01/18/24 02:32 PM ET
ESPN is now getting "in state" revenue for the ACCN in Texas and California
EDGEMAN • 01/18/24 02:06 PM ET
Me either.**
RJHokie • 01/18/24 01:18 PM ET
ACC not consulting espn before adding those other schools would ...
Atlee Hokie • 01/18/24 01:17 PM ET