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All of those are good questions, and there are consequences to

separating the contracts, but the separation is needed. The Big East and other conferences that are not FBS, basically finance their entire athletic programs with basketball revenue, and some of the lower basketball conferences finance their entire athletic programs with very little media revenue. The units from the tournament id critical to many of those conferences and athletic programs. Separating football could make the revenue sharing for all athletic departments easier to administer, as the football only media deals could go to football only. The rest of the athletic department can, and could, be financed through basketball and 3rd tier revenue. Many talk about a P2 break away, but IMHO, it will be a football breakaway that will happen.
Posted: 03/20/2025 at 10:08 AM ET
(In response to this post by VTHokie2000)

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ACC Big East Merger still being discussed
Sunsetunderground 03/18/25 12:17 PM ET
How many Big East schools add any value?
Old Line Hokie 03/22/25 07:28 PM ET
I like this better.
HOO86 03/23/25 05:00 PM ET
Why do you think promotion/relegation would add any value to either
VTHokie2000 03/19/25 09:34 PM ET
It would make for good tv ... if...
Whiskeyandfootball 03/21/25 10:32 PM ET
The Promotion Relegation Model proposed (not by me) says
Sunsetunderground 03/20/25 12:20 PM ET
Even if the scheduling format says teams would play 5-7 games from the
VTHokie2000 03/20/25 01:35 PM ET
Why would this do anything ?
Turk Malloy 03/19/25 02:32 PM ET
I think Coach K is going rogue here. I don't think it is in Duke's interest
Maroon Baboon 03/20/25 12:16 AM ET
Could be, or he thinks the Mag 7 are leaving & wants 🏀 1st schools to
Stech 03/20/25 12:23 PM ET
I think he is all about DUKE**
MrFantastic! 03/20/25 07:39 AM ET
Please stop with “relegation” and “promotion”. This isn’t the EPL
Marooned 03/19/25 11:27 AM ET
100%
BUGGZY 03/19/25 12:00 PM ET
Interesting approach, definitely dramatic
Marooned 03/19/25 12:16 PM ET
you have to wonder how relevant BB will be going forward. it definitely
anotherdamnyankeehokie 03/19/25 10:39 AM ET
All this is and smart on their part
MrFantastic! 03/19/25 07:46 AM ET
Good for scheduling **
VaTechHokiesACC 03/19/25 02:10 AM ET
Simply no.
RandomAsianGuy 03/18/25 11:17 PM ET
No 4 now, yes n a few years, announcements happen ~2 years before happening
Stech 03/19/25 11:39 AM ET
Doubt it.
RandomAsianGuy 03/20/25 01:06 PM ET
I think the unequal revenue has more potential for change than many think.
Stech 03/20/25 01:15 PM ET
Exactly
Marooned 03/21/25 09:21 AM ET
I believe that to be......
2hhoop3 03/21/25 09:45 AM ET
Maybe, but you have to believe that third party discussions
Marooned 03/21/25 11:07 AM ET
What do you attribute.....
2hhoop3 03/21/25 11:22 AM ET
My observations
Marooned 03/22/25 07:30 PM ET
Thanks for the explanation....
2hhoop3 03/22/25 07:45 PM ET
It has lots of potential.....
2hhoop3 03/20/25 01:40 PM ET
Good post, can you help me understand your last statement about “how much
Stech 03/20/25 04:08 PM ET
The NFL's current deal......
2hhoop3 03/20/25 04:21 PM ET
Thanks, as much as I hate to say it addiction makes 💵, & betting addiicts
Stech 03/20/25 06:33 PM ET
If the media pie isn't infinite and the NFL's next slice ends up being
VTHokie2000 03/20/25 05:30 PM ET
That's a fair question......
2hhoop3 03/20/25 05:35 PM ET
The bad part that’s being forgotten is 1.6% of D1 🏈 players make the NFL.
Stech 03/20/25 08:35 PM ET
It is similar to winning the lottery, but putting something through a meat
VTHokie2000 03/21/25 01:10 PM ET
I agree with that assessment about college football. It would be
VTHokie2000 03/20/25 06:25 PM ET
Geographical divisions set up nicely in a BB merger
cburgroop 03/18/25 10:20 PM ET
This needed to happen before PSU joined the Big Ten. Or at the latest..
Maroon Baboon 03/18/25 10:15 PM ET
Lots of "what ifs" in conference realignment.
mancunian 03/19/25 09:42 AM ET
What was the Super Metro proposed in 1990?
Maroon Baboon 03/19/25 05:13 PM ET
Here is what the 16-team Metro Conference could have looked like if it had
VTHokie2000 03/19/25 07:06 PM ET
Hmm. Was there an attempted to make PSU a part of this?**
Maroon Baboon 03/19/25 08:52 PM ET
The original study, which was done in 1990, did include Penn State.
VTHokie2000 03/19/25 09:14 PM ET
Yeah. I think PSU was the key to making a great Eastern conference.
Maroon Baboon 03/19/25 09:51 PM ET
It is worth noting that most of Penn State's athletic programs started
VTHokie2000 03/19/25 10:09 PM ET
It was basically taking all of the Metro League football teams
Sunsetunderground 03/19/25 06:59 PM ET
ACC is only hurting because we lost 6(?) top coaches within a few years
HokieAl 03/18/25 04:58 PM ET
Exactly
Turk Malloy 03/19/25 02:32 PM ET
THe biggest is the lack of funding in both the NIL and athletic dept funds
1947Sunbowl 03/19/25 09:34 AM ET
Either pay players up to the cap, or languish in mediocracy. While the
Big12 guy 03/19/25 10:49 AM ET
Just what the ACC needs, a bunch more small privates. That being said,
Big12 guy 03/18/25 08:31 PM ET
The problem with the Big East "blue bloods" is they don't really add any
VTHokie2000 03/19/25 11:37 AM ET
No doubt. It's why the B12 didn't add UConn. The existing
Big12 guy 03/19/25 11:43 AM ET
A potential problem with having separate contracts is it could create
VTHokie2000 03/19/25 07:26 PM ET
All of those are good questions, and there are consequences to
Big12 guy 03/20/25 10:08 AM ET
WRT whether schools could earmark the revenue generated from the football
VTHokie2000 03/20/25 11:22 AM ET
It is because of title 9 that I think football will break away. If they
Big12 guy 03/20/25 11:56 AM ET
If you believe football will break away from the Athletic Department, then
VTHokie2000 03/20/25 01:44 PM ET
I do have a theory on how it could happen, and it just might
Big12 guy 03/20/25 02:14 PM ET
That may generate more money for the schools, but you didn't really answer
VTHokie2000 03/20/25 02:45 PM ET
Football and their revenue breaking away from the athletic department is
Big12 guy 03/20/25 03:15 PM ET
Why should Title IX exclude football?
VTHokie2000 03/20/25 05:24 PM ET
Football schools will never do this**
MrFantastic! 03/19/25 07:47 AM ET
Never is a long time. Keep in mind,
Big12 guy 03/19/25 08:28 AM ET
If you divide FB and BB payment systems, this is viable.
VT ChemE 1986 03/18/25 04:24 PM ET
Ratface and Slick Rick......
2hhoop3 03/18/25 02:06 PM ET
This would only be viable if the basketball media rights were separated-
Baltimore_Hokie 03/18/25 01:59 PM ET
The KU Duke game this year got just over 2M average viewers,
Big12 guy 03/18/25 03:04 PM ET
My understanding is that basketball is factored into the "brand value"
Baltimore_Hokie 03/18/25 04:15 PM ET
Makes sense if Mag 7 are leaving, ESPN renewed ACC Media contract for bball
Stech 03/18/25 01:51 PM ET
Not sure ACC dominates again. 4-30 vs SEC this year. Follow the $$
drb 03/19/25 08:21 AM ET
Not sure either, but ACC lost a lot of Nat Champ coaches in a short period
Stech 03/19/25 09:13 AM ET
What needs to be done
MrFantastic! 03/18/25 01:40 PM ET
Bold thinking...if it was 2012.**
marcbvtgm 03/18/25 12:57 PM ET
Only if the football and basketball media contracts are separated. **
Big12 guy 03/18/25 12:29 PM ET
Think that is obvious and a no brainer.
VT ChemE 1986 03/18/25 04:26 PM ET