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VTHokie2000
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VTHokie2000

The original study, which was done in 1990, did include Penn State.

However, Penn State had accepted to join the Big Ten on December 15, 1989.
Link: Metro Conference Proposal
Posted: 03/19/2025 at 09:14 PM ET
(In response to this post by Maroon Baboon)

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ACC Big East Merger still being discussed
Sunsetunderground • 03/18/25 12:17 PM ET
How many Big East schools add any value?
Old Line Hokie • 03/22/25 07:28 PM ET
I like this better.
HOO86 • 03/23/25 05:00 PM ET
Why do you think promotion/relegation would add any value to either
VTHokie2000 • 03/19/25 09:34 PM ET
It would make for good tv ... if...
Whiskeyandfootball • 03/21/25 10:32 PM ET
The Promotion Relegation Model proposed (not by me) says
Sunsetunderground • 03/20/25 12:20 PM ET
Even if the scheduling format says teams would play 5-7 games from the
VTHokie2000 • 03/20/25 01:35 PM ET
Why would this do anything ?
Turk Malloy • 03/19/25 02:32 PM ET
I think Coach K is going rogue here. I don't think it is in Duke's interest
Maroon Baboon • 03/20/25 12:16 AM ET
Could be, or he thinks the Mag 7 are leaving & wants 🏀 1st schools to
Stech • 03/20/25 12:23 PM ET
I think he is all about DUKE**
MrFantastic! • 03/20/25 07:39 AM ET
Please stop with “relegation” and “promotion”. This isn’t the EPL
Marooned • 03/19/25 11:27 AM ET
100%
BUGGZY • 03/19/25 12:00 PM ET
Interesting approach, definitely dramatic
Marooned • 03/19/25 12:16 PM ET
you have to wonder how relevant BB will be going forward. it definitely
anotherdamnyankeehokie • 03/19/25 10:39 AM ET
All this is and smart on their part
MrFantastic! • 03/19/25 07:46 AM ET
Good for scheduling **
VaTechHokiesACC • 03/19/25 02:10 AM ET
Simply no.
RandomAsianGuy • 03/18/25 11:17 PM ET
No 4 now, yes n a few years, announcements happen ~2 years before happening
Stech • 03/19/25 11:39 AM ET
Doubt it.
RandomAsianGuy • 03/20/25 01:06 PM ET
I think the unequal revenue has more potential for change than many think.
Stech • 03/20/25 01:15 PM ET
Exactly
Marooned • 03/21/25 09:21 AM ET
I believe that to be......
2hhoop3 • 03/21/25 09:45 AM ET
Maybe, but you have to believe that third party discussions
Marooned • 03/21/25 11:07 AM ET
What do you attribute.....
2hhoop3 • 03/21/25 11:22 AM ET
My observations
Marooned • 03/22/25 07:30 PM ET
Thanks for the explanation....
2hhoop3 • 03/22/25 07:45 PM ET
It has lots of potential.....
2hhoop3 • 03/20/25 01:40 PM ET
Good post, can you help me understand your last statement about “how much
Stech • 03/20/25 04:08 PM ET
The NFL's current deal......
2hhoop3 • 03/20/25 04:21 PM ET
Thanks, as much as I hate to say it addiction makes 💵, & betting addiicts
Stech • 03/20/25 06:33 PM ET
If the media pie isn't infinite and the NFL's next slice ends up being
VTHokie2000 • 03/20/25 05:30 PM ET
That's a fair question......
2hhoop3 • 03/20/25 05:35 PM ET
The bad part that’s being forgotten is 1.6% of D1 🏈 players make the NFL.
Stech • 03/20/25 08:35 PM ET
It is similar to winning the lottery, but putting something through a meat
VTHokie2000 • 03/21/25 01:10 PM ET
I agree with that assessment about college football. It would be
VTHokie2000 • 03/20/25 06:25 PM ET
Geographical divisions set up nicely in a BB merger
cburgroop • 03/18/25 10:20 PM ET
This needed to happen before PSU joined the Big Ten. Or at the latest..
Maroon Baboon • 03/18/25 10:15 PM ET
Lots of "what ifs" in conference realignment.
mancunian • 03/19/25 09:42 AM ET
What was the Super Metro proposed in 1990?
Maroon Baboon • 03/19/25 05:13 PM ET
Here is what the 16-team Metro Conference could have looked like if it had
VTHokie2000 • 03/19/25 07:06 PM ET
Hmm. Was there an attempted to make PSU a part of this?**
Maroon Baboon • 03/19/25 08:52 PM ET
The original study, which was done in 1990, did include Penn State. ◄
VTHokie2000 • 03/19/25 09:14 PM ET
Yeah. I think PSU was the key to making a great Eastern conference.
Maroon Baboon • 03/19/25 09:51 PM ET
It is worth noting that most of Penn State's athletic programs started
VTHokie2000 • 03/19/25 10:09 PM ET
It was basically taking all of the Metro League football teams
Sunsetunderground • 03/19/25 06:59 PM ET
ACC is only hurting because we lost 6(?) top coaches within a few years
HokieAl • 03/18/25 04:58 PM ET
Exactly
Turk Malloy • 03/19/25 02:32 PM ET
THe biggest is the lack of funding in both the NIL and athletic dept funds
1947Sunbowl • 03/19/25 09:34 AM ET
Either pay players up to the cap, or languish in mediocracy. While the
Big12 guy • 03/19/25 10:49 AM ET
Just what the ACC needs, a bunch more small privates. That being said,
Big12 guy • 03/18/25 08:31 PM ET
The problem with the Big East "blue bloods" is they don't really add any
VTHokie2000 • 03/19/25 11:37 AM ET
No doubt. It's why the B12 didn't add UConn. The existing
Big12 guy • 03/19/25 11:43 AM ET
A potential problem with having separate contracts is it could create
VTHokie2000 • 03/19/25 07:26 PM ET
All of those are good questions, and there are consequences to
Big12 guy • 03/20/25 10:08 AM ET
WRT whether schools could earmark the revenue generated from the football
VTHokie2000 • 03/20/25 11:22 AM ET
It is because of title 9 that I think football will break away. If they
Big12 guy • 03/20/25 11:56 AM ET
If you believe football will break away from the Athletic Department, then
VTHokie2000 • 03/20/25 01:44 PM ET
I do have a theory on how it could happen, and it just might
Big12 guy • 03/20/25 02:14 PM ET
That may generate more money for the schools, but you didn't really answer
VTHokie2000 • 03/20/25 02:45 PM ET
Football and their revenue breaking away from the athletic department is
Big12 guy • 03/20/25 03:15 PM ET
Why should Title IX exclude football?
VTHokie2000 • 03/20/25 05:24 PM ET
Football schools will never do this**
MrFantastic! • 03/19/25 07:47 AM ET
Never is a long time. Keep in mind,
Big12 guy • 03/19/25 08:28 AM ET
If you divide FB and BB payment systems, this is viable.
VT ChemE 1986 • 03/18/25 04:24 PM ET
Ratface and Slick Rick......
2hhoop3 • 03/18/25 02:06 PM ET
This would only be viable if the basketball media rights were separated-
Baltimore_Hokie • 03/18/25 01:59 PM ET
The KU Duke game this year got just over 2M average viewers,
Big12 guy • 03/18/25 03:04 PM ET
My understanding is that basketball is factored into the "brand value"
Baltimore_Hokie • 03/18/25 04:15 PM ET
Makes sense if Mag 7 are leaving, ESPN renewed ACC Media contract for bball
Stech • 03/18/25 01:51 PM ET
Not sure ACC dominates again. 4-30 vs SEC this year. Follow the $$
drb • 03/19/25 08:21 AM ET
Not sure either, but ACC lost a lot of Nat Champ coaches in a short period
Stech • 03/19/25 09:13 AM ET
What needs to be done
MrFantastic! • 03/18/25 01:40 PM ET
Bold thinking...if it was 2012.**
marcbvtgm • 03/18/25 12:57 PM ET
Only if the football and basketball media contracts are separated. **
Big12 guy • 03/18/25 12:29 PM ET
Think that is obvious and a no brainer.
VT ChemE 1986 • 03/18/25 04:26 PM ET