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ESPN paid-out ~ $32-33 million last year plus $? from The ACCN.

I assume a pro rata in The ACC. Don't Know for sure. ESPN current Big 12 contract pays $0.00 while the new contract will pay $20 million for Arizona. In either case ASU will pay an exit fee to PAC. I often repeat that adding schools isn't the same as adding positive income or wealth. New members have to be paid. A suggestion: When you get an idea for expansion, examine the transaction from the perspective each party involved. Does each party get an acceptable benefit (not just better travel distance.) Consider each party's downside; is it worth the benefit or cost? Can you project into the future and see these benefits in the long term? Consider Arizona's other choices. Maybe The Big 12 looks like the safe haven for now, but will it be the place you want to be in six, seven, years? Starving for a few years in The PAC is scary, but the future is a crap shoot. Might as well aim for the future you prefer rather the give that up for a gamble on, what... $20 million a year. I'm not saying AZ should stay in The PAC; not saying leave The PAC. Not easy. The language we use when we're talking realignment is silly: B1G 12 should "take" these three schools," "ESPN should move these two schools." Nobody "takes" a school; nobody "moves a school." These schools, these conferences, these media moguls, they are all constrained in what they do, and when, by contracts, varying objectives, and cultural conflicts. Yes, a certain amount of money, at a certain time and place can be persuasive. But every one of the parties has choices to make. It's extremely complex. This late in the game can anyone say for sure why The B1G has not adopted Oregon and Washington? We all believe it will happen, that it should have happened already. I think it somehow has to do with Notre Dame. But I'm not sure. When we find out it still may not make sense, because it's damn complicated. ** Edited by 33laszlo99 at 3/6/2023, 9:01:32 PM
Posted: 03/06/2023 at 08:57 PM ET
(In response to this post by Maroon Baboon)

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A Report That B1G has Offered Oregon & Washington at Reduced Shares
WarHog38 03/06/23 01:15 AM ET
Well if true then BIG is 18, SEC is 16, B12 is 12, ACC is 15, PAC is 8
HokieAl 03/06/23 02:16 PM ET
You had some fine ideas for Step 1, adding a bunch of schools.
33laszlo99 03/06/23 04:19 PM ET
The extra money is what would have been spent on the PAC
HokieAl 03/06/23 05:39 PM ET
So they did this w/o a conference commissioner in place? **
BAMRising 03/06/23 01:45 PM ET
Could Be Insulation Against Anti-Trust Type Legal Actions
WarHog38 03/06/23 03:13 PM ET
I saw something recently saying Warren is there until some point in April
hokieball 03/06/23 02:09 PM ET
Pretty sure he resigned back in January**
BAMRising 03/06/23 02:15 PM ET
Resigning doesn't mean typically immediately, today.**
33laszlo99 03/06/23 04:22 PM ET
Less than full shares is typical
Tailgate Guru 03/06/23 09:26 AM ET
funny they didnt offer less to USC and UCLA
Mercury 03/06/23 10:15 AM ET
Well there is your template for rest of SEC and B1G expansion
Vippie1 03/06/23 08:48 AM ET
Clemson and FSU might get a similar deal one day with the SEC.
El Paso Hokie 03/06/23 11:29 PM ET
Heard Texas & Oklahoma are Getting Reduced SEC Shares
WarHog38 03/06/23 01:42 PM ET
This is not new, VT did it with the Big East, Rutgers, Maryland to B1G etc.
Stech 03/06/23 10:03 AM ET
Nebraska it was 15 years
Mercury 03/06/23 10:17 AM ET
If so, the ACC should invite the 4 corners, Cal, and Stanford
ren_hoek 03/06/23 08:43 AM ET
Utah, Colorado, Arizona , Arizona State, will then Become Sought Targets
WarHog38 03/06/23 02:53 PM ET
Looking at the media deals and GOR's, what does the ACC offer the 4 corners
Big12 guy 03/06/23 04:07 PM ET
4 things in my opinion. But might not trump what the XII has to offer.
Maroon Baboon 03/06/23 09:01 PM ET
Geography and money are the only Big12 advantages.
Big12 guy 03/07/23 08:33 AM ET
At least one team.....
2hhoop3 03/06/23 05:51 PM ET
This is An ACC Board
WarHog38 03/06/23 05:39 PM ET
No disrespect intended, If I'm not welcome, I'll move on**
Big12 guy 03/06/23 05:48 PM ET
Nah. You're good.
Maroon Baboon 03/06/23 09:15 PM ET
No Problem
WarHog38 03/06/23 06:34 PM ET
No issues, I'm not here to talk smack on the ACC or on VT.
Big12 guy 03/07/23 07:46 AM ET
Same here.
WarHog38 03/07/23 01:57 PM ET
For starters, more money.
33laszlo99 03/06/23 04:33 PM ET
How much more money would, say, Arizona get in the ACC vs. the Big XII?**
Maroon Baboon 03/06/23 05:05 PM ET
ESPN paid-out ~ $32-33 million last year plus $? from The ACCN.
33laszlo99 03/06/23 08:57 PM ET
I suspect the timing on UO/UW was planned by the B10.
hokieluver 03/09/23 12:10 PM ET
Whit said on the podcast that the ACCN distribution
RJHokie 03/06/23 09:20 PM ET
you dont if you have an ACC commissioner busy interviewing for the Big 10 **
Mercury 03/06/23 10:18 AM ET
I agree we should do just that, especially if ESPN supports it $ wise,
Stech 03/06/23 10:11 AM ET
eQuiTy
Maroon Baboon 03/06/23 08:11 AM ET
I Did Not Know That About Warren
WarHog38 03/06/23 03:46 PM ET
I wouldn't use the race card as a description of what Warren did.
Maroon Baboon 03/06/23 04:38 PM ET
Look at the History of Major College Football
WarHog38 03/06/23 05:25 PM ET
Will ND get a reduced share when they bring them in?**
EDGEMAN 03/06/23 08:25 AM ET
ND would immediately get paid full shares.**
reestuart 03/06/23 12:32 PM ET
IF they bring ND in....No, full shares
TerryD 03/06/23 09:56 AM ET
Did Rutgers?
Maroon Baboon 03/06/23 08:31 AM ET
No, that is FSU and Clemson, not ND
TerryD 03/06/23 09:58 AM ET
Just for the appearance of equity, I bet its more like . . .
hokieluver 03/09/23 12:12 PM ET