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HokieAl
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Oh all of the ACC schools want to schedule ND

But if the ACC bridge is burned then ND can black list them. Which is my point. The ACC leadership doesn't have any power because the individual ACC schools want to have ND on the schedule. I think I'm answering your question as I think we agree. But wasn't sure based on how I read your post.
Posted: 12/08/2025 at 08:42 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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What does Notre Dame really want?
RandomAsianGuy 12/08/25 06:42 PM ET
The faux anger is just a convenient cover story
Tailgate Guru 12/09/25 06:55 AM ET
The anger is far from faux**
TerryD 12/09/25 07:35 AM ET
How about misplaced?**
reestuart 12/09/25 09:04 AM ET
“Contrived” then - irrational in any event **
Tailgate Guru 12/09/25 08:29 AM ET
ND, the institution, and......
2hhoop3 12/09/25 09:15 AM ET
It's disappointing. I don't have anything against ND. I really like
reestuart 12/09/25 09:33 AM ET
I agree on Freeman.....
2hhoop3 12/09/25 09:43 AM ET
I hope Notre Dame stays independent. Play this 12 team schedule every year
OrlandoHokie 12/08/25 11:51 PM ET
LOL, they'd never do this.
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 10:36 AM ET
Attention. Worship. And money of course.**
Gobbler-100 12/08/25 11:44 PM ET
Re #3: Knowing how rock ribbed tough Phillips is ...
Atlee Hokie 12/08/25 10:33 PM ET
SportsWire published a story about the possibilities
VTChip 12/08/25 08:43 PM ET
USA Today covering ANY SPORT, esp. college football. is CLICKBAIT!!!**
ancient alien 2018 12/08/25 09:36 PM ET
Kinda reads like clickbait.**
RJHokie 12/08/25 08:46 PM ET
Maybe, but I can't get past the "permanent damage" comment
VTChip 12/08/25 08:57 PM ET
Will be interesting to see what they consider “permanent damage”.
RJHokie 12/08/25 09:01 PM ET
Their just being peevish. They whine about everything.**
saret 12/08/25 09:18 PM ET
Sounds lawyerish. **
saret 12/08/25 08:59 PM ET
The legalese would be "material breach."**
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 10:46 AM ET
You're right, if he were in court. But, this was a PR whining.
saret 12/09/25 10:56 AM ET
Agreed. Possibly laying the groundwork for the next step**
VTChip 12/08/25 09:06 PM ET
Could be. Let'm. I'll repeat, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on
saret 12/08/25 10:04 PM ET
1 is all that will satisfy the fan base. We’re done
goldendomer 12/08/25 08:10 PM ET
You want to leave the ACC? Get in line, brother. Welcome to the club.**
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 10:47 AM ET
Then pay your exit fee & go destroy another conference, Big East ACC, next?**
Stech 12/09/25 07:14 AM ET
That's a good way to make even more schools & people hate ND
EDGEMAN 12/09/25 06:26 AM ET
How does it feel to be one ring leaders demise college athletics?
MrFantastic! 12/09/25 05:58 AM ET
I'm sure the Patriot League will take you for other sports
HokiesACC2004 12/09/25 05:16 AM ET
LOL!**
Gobbler-100 12/08/25 11:39 PM ET
I welcome ND leaving ACC. It can't happen soon enough.**
Atlee Hokie 12/08/25 09:40 PM ET
Even if they could break GOR where are your non revs going?
RTFC 12/08/25 09:20 PM ET
The Big East. C'mon people. Let's use our thinking caps here.
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 11:06 AM ET
Big East doesn't play football and yes almost every school wants to
RTFC 12/09/25 02:16 PM ET
Would they then play UConn home and home?
Truthahn 12/09/25 12:01 PM ET
I don't think they'd turn up their nose at a H-H with UConn under-
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 12:06 PM ET
Great. Pay the massive exit fee and hit the bricks.**
SMU Pony 12/08/25 08:30 PM ET
We have one of the best law school’s in the country and the ACC is in
goldendomer 12/08/25 08:37 PM ET
Get outta here. The ACC has the following law schools ranked above ND
HokieNeal 12/09/25 10:56 AM ET
LOL, storied ACC members Stanford and Cal.
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 11:08 AM ET
How about you actually read my comment
HokieNeal 12/09/25 12:32 PM ET
The point remains. Why even include them in making your point?**
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 12:35 PM ET
No good law schools in the ACC, so this should be a slam dunk. LOL.**
reestuart 12/09/25 09:06 AM ET
Especially when the most obvious claim is ND’s breach of the bowl contract **
Tailgate Guru 12/09/25 09:17 AM ET
Yeah, that's what I think. ND is the only one with the breach
reestuart 12/09/25 09:30 AM ET
The mere fact you went here
RTFC 12/09/25 08:36 AM ET
Why does law school ranking matter at all whatsoever here?
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 11:10 AM ET
Of course not, I was pointing out the arrogance and ignorance
RTFC 12/09/25 02:16 PM ET
Probably nothing as you say.
RJHokie 12/09/25 11:22 AM ET
The one thing Notre Dame should fear is litigation
Tailgate Guru 12/09/25 06:58 AM ET
Happy Trails **
HokiesACC2004 12/09/25 05:17 AM ET
Do they teach how to use apostrophes in that law school?
North Main Hokie 12/09/25 12:55 AM ET
or... to versus too....**
RTFC 12/09/25 01:08 AM ET
We'll book you a slot on Creighton's msg board so you can try...
Gobbler-100 12/08/25 11:43 PM ET
Pray tell was this so called breach?**
Atlee Hokie 12/08/25 10:19 PM ET
I guess we will find out tomorrow……
RJHokie 12/08/25 10:25 PM ET
ND ranked #20 tied with Minnesota in this ranking….**
RJHokie 12/08/25 09:45 PM ET
UVA, Duke and UNC law schools are ranked ahead of ND**
VT ChemE 1986 12/08/25 08:54 PM ET
Bye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out**
saret 12/08/25 08:51 PM ET
Lol at best law school making a difference
SpeakToDamien 12/08/25 08:43 PM ET
I know it's not gospel, but I see 6 law schools ranked ahead of ND in ACC.**
reestuart 12/09/25 09:08 AM ET
You have to excuse ....
2hhoop3 12/08/25 09:38 PM ET
He's been "Rudyfied", meaning a whining, begging *****!!
ancient alien 2018 12/08/25 10:03 PM ET
We've all been there one time or another. What heat ND is taking is
saret 12/08/25 10:03 PM ET
Assuming that is true...is that a potential GOR breaker?
HokieAl 12/08/25 08:43 PM ET
They haven't, they're just throwing a hissy fit **
SMU Pony 12/08/25 08:50 PM ET
"Material breach" hahaha**
SMU Pony 12/08/25 08:39 PM ET
Do you REALLY think the exit fee is massive? We all know
Big12 guy 12/08/25 08:34 PM ET
Notre Dame could come up with the exit fee tomorrow if they wanted to.
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 11:13 AM ET
I think my point is that ND's exit fee is based on their Olympics, and
Big12 guy 12/09/25 11:55 AM ET
Correct - I just looked, and they pay 1/3 of the current $165m exit penalty
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 11:58 AM ET
OK, so those clamoring for them to pay the exit fee and leave
Big12 guy 12/09/25 12:21 PM ET
It doesn't matter anyway, man - the ACC is dead man walking, and pretty-
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 12:25 PM ET
I hope you are right. growing up in Indiana, and my
Big12 guy 12/08/25 08:30 PM ET
You keep repeating this garbage about ND being
RVAHokie05 12/09/25 03:05 AM ET
Again, "Buh bye."**
saret 12/08/25 10:06 PM ET
#3 see my posts in the thread below**
daveinop 12/08/25 07:41 PM ET
This makes sense. #3 it is.**
VT ChemE 1986 12/08/25 07:35 PM ET
All the public comments are definitely calculated. ND is not rash
HokieAl 12/08/25 07:35 PM ET
ACC isn't in weak negotiating position. ND won't give ACC what it needs
daveinop 12/08/25 07:46 PM ET
Are you under the impression that less guaranteed football games vs. ND is-
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 11:46 AM ET
Obviously not; but that isn't on the table
daveinop 12/09/25 03:42 PM ET
ND gives ACC teams significant boosts in tv viewership and attendance
HokieAl 12/08/25 07:54 PM ET
Half of the ACC, VT included, has one foot out the door
daveinop 12/09/25 07:44 AM ET
In theory, yes
RTFC 12/09/25 01:03 AM ET
Any team that schedules ND should agree that ND comes to them or no game.
laphroaig 12/09/25 01:25 PM ET
Teams want the $/exposure.
RTFC 12/09/25 02:19 PM ET
Home games are more profitable to teams at the P4 level aren't they?
laphroaig 12/09/25 02:29 PM ET
Works for me ;)**
RTFC 12/09/25 02:35 PM ET
Any program will schedule ND any time they're available to do so.
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 11:47 AM ET
If they can play anybody/anytime then why did ND ever sign a long term
RTFC 12/09/25 02:16 PM ET
That's all well and good. All I'm saying is that ND has 90% of the leverage
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 02:43 PM ET
Don't think they have that much leverage.
RTFC 12/09/25 02:51 PM ET
Name one single (just one) ACC school that would not
Big12 guy 12/08/25 08:37 PM ET
Big12guy, you might better sit this one out
Tailgate Guru 12/09/25 07:30 AM ET
I have no desire for ND to be associated with
Big12 guy 12/09/25 07:45 AM ET
But when? Do you think SEC teams will want ND on their schedule ...
Atlee Hokie 12/09/25 06:34 AM ET
Yes. They would.
Baltimore_Hokie 12/09/25 11:54 AM ET
Oh all of the ACC schools want to schedule ND
HokieAl 12/08/25 08:42 PM ET
We agree. **
Big12 guy 12/08/25 08:42 PM ET
Are we sure ND doesn't have to worry about filling their schedule?
SMU Pony 12/08/25 08:06 PM ET
Replacing the ACC with the top of the P2 will not be easy for them.
Truthahn 12/09/25 12:07 PM ET
They do have to worry about scheduling strong late season games IMO. **
RandomAsianGuy 12/08/25 10:59 PM ET
Yeah, that’s going to be rough.
RJHokie 12/08/25 11:02 PM ET
They do have to worry.
HOO86 12/08/25 10:05 PM ET
ND doesn't seem worried, do they?**
TerryD 12/09/25 07:40 AM ET
This guy doesn't seem to.
HOO86 12/09/25 07:42 AM ET
I don't think ND is worried. I do think ND is feigning injury
daveinop 12/09/25 07:53 AM ET
If you dig a bit deeper, it was the BIG that put a kibosh on the game. **
Big12 guy 12/08/25 08:31 PM ET
They lost their PO spot to Bama, and blame the ACC? “Permanent Damage” is
Stech 12/08/25 07:27 PM ET
In that case, the ACC should sue ND for punitive damages.
EDGEMAN 12/09/25 06:32 AM ET
I understand why you are saying Phillips should sue ND 1st, but his kids go
Stech 12/09/25 06:43 AM ET
So the ACC commish might need to recuse himself in a court case between
laphroaig 12/09/25 01:37 PM ET
Correct. It's always about money with ND.
Gobbler-100 12/08/25 08:07 PM ET
It is about money for every single school**
TerryD 12/09/25 07:41 AM ET
then you aren't surprised the ACC pushed for Miami in the CFP**
daveinop 12/09/25 07:57 AM ET
BINGO!**
RTFC 12/09/25 02:34 PM ET
Quite right, and it should be for the ACC as well
Marooned 12/08/25 08:32 PM ET