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Sure it is. Not for everyone, but for some.

A nothingburger for many. Might even be a negative for some. Is $20 million/year of academic money best spent on helping athletics to somehow indirectly impact academics? Or could it be put to better use more directly marketing/branding the university's academic merits? Or otherwise helping academics? Debatable for sure. Would $30 million/year of increased donations be better spent on athletics to help attract sports fan students or on increased need- or merit-based aid for all regular students (obviously not that all that many donating parts of that $30MM, if it even happens, would actually make that trade, but still)? It's also not helping that many (certainly including parents of prospective students) are getting increasingly fed up with the big time athletics landscape. I was a season ticket holder for 20+ years and had been a fairly significant donor over that period (including Golden Hokie Champion way back when that was a thing). That stopped mostly because of moving far away, but my interest in supporting what this has become in any way has certainly waned significantly. ** Edited by Pylons at 9/24/2025, 1:34:30 PM
Posted: 09/24/2025 at 01:31 PM ET
(In response to this post by RandomAsianGuy)

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Does a Conference Membership Matter for Academics?
RandomAsianGuy 09/23/25 08:58 PM ET
The Turkey or the Egg question. One thing the B1G cares about it, the ACC
Stech 09/24/25 03:10 PM ET
Not sure how UVA is more desirable than Stanford if this is the csse**
Sunsetunderground 09/25/25 02:59 PM ET
John Skipper former ESPN President/Consultant wants UNC in the SEC & UNC
Stech 09/25/25 04:34 PM ET
And that is why UVA is a top target for expansion
Turk Malloy 09/24/25 04:06 PM ET
According to ESPN insiders and some B1G insiders too, it counters Pro image
Stech 09/24/25 04:18 PM ET
I dislike academic rankings bc schools have different missions
HokieAl 09/24/25 12:09 PM ET
The undergraduate education you get doesn't vary a whole lot
Pylons 09/24/25 05:28 PM ET
For faculty it sure does
Turk Malloy 09/24/25 10:32 AM ET
That's not how research works.**
Pylons 09/24/25 05:19 PM ET
There are some very high ranked schools in non-P4 conferences
I85Hokie 09/24/25 07:16 AM ET
All private schools, it’s different w/ many public schools. The SEC public
Stech 09/24/25 07:40 PM ET
Apples and Oranges
1947Sunbowl 09/24/25 07:58 AM ET
Look at UMass and Buffalo in the MAC. No one that
Big12 guy 09/24/25 10:11 AM ET
I believe UMass made the switch because it was hoping the move would
VTHokie2000 09/24/25 01:01 PM ET
UMass would be redundant to BC for the ACC
HOO86 09/24/25 05:09 PM ET
I see UConn as more interesting to us as an independent.
Truthahn 09/25/25 12:38 PM ET
Yes if ACC wants to add a northeastern school, UCONN is it, once schools
Stech 09/24/25 07:32 PM ET
I believe UMass made the switch prior to the ACC announcing its expansion
VTHokie2000 09/24/25 05:12 PM ET
Maybe so, but BC has fought UCONN, they sure don’t want UMass to compete
Stech 09/24/25 07:35 PM ET
We've added schools over objections from Clemson, FSU and UNC.
Truthahn 09/25/25 12:27 PM ET
It’s all about the timing, I think we have 9 Conf games because the makeup
Stech 09/25/25 12:39 PM ET
If UMass' goal was to join the Big East because of the impact it would have
VTHokie2000 09/24/25 09:24 PM ET
I certainly have no answer for the last 2 questions.
Pylons 09/24/25 10:35 AM ET
The other thing to keep in mind is that academic reputation,
Pylons 09/23/25 10:26 PM ET
I agree grad school (phd) is a completely different animal. USNews is about
RandomAsianGuy 09/23/25 11:41 PM ET
Fair enough, but
Pylons 09/24/25 12:04 AM ET
Conference membership may affect many metrics, including
RandomAsianGuy 09/24/25 12:56 PM ET
No.
Pylons 09/23/25 10:02 PM ET
Anecdotal, but I absolutely would've passed on VT if they were in the A-10**
hokie_jayhawk 09/24/25 07:30 AM ET
Well I certainly am not denying it matters to some people.
Pylons 09/24/25 10:18 AM ET
public perseption
lord4bid 09/24/25 07:12 AM ET
As someone who has been faculty, at VT and elsewhere,
Pylons 09/24/25 10:24 AM ET
While I did not teach at FSU, I was under contract as a consultant
lord4bid 09/24/25 03:54 PM ET
Weird to me,
Pylons 09/24/25 04:13 PM ET
I respect your view.
RandomAsianGuy 09/23/25 11:39 PM ET
A few things
Pylons 09/24/25 12:20 AM ET
Simple question: Is big-time football a selling point for VT? Yes or no**
RandomAsianGuy 09/24/25 12:57 PM ET
Sure it is. Not for everyone, but for some.
Pylons 09/24/25 01:31 PM ET
I have to think
Vippie1 09/24/25 09:57 AM ET