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The B12 thinks FSU and Clem are coming but they aren’t.
SEC is staying pat. Commish said it today.
B1G the same. They just added a bunch of schools and are cool for the foreseeable future.
FSU and Clem can either go B12, go Independent, or stay with the ACC with Notre Dame, UNC, Miami, VT, etc.
When they choose to stay with the ACC, the B12 immediately becomes PREY and the new “sinking ship”.
WVU and Cinci, you listening?
Good luck B12 fellas, we’d love to have *some* of you and form a new P3 ACC. Your conference will become extinct WAY before the ACC does.
Thread Replies (100)
This was the week the dam was supposed to begin breaking per Josh Pate.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 14, 2024 at 07:04 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/14/24 07:04 PM ET
No it wasn’t. That’s not an accurate statement.
-- hokieZ71
Jul 15, 2024 at 08:26 AM ET
hokieZ71
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07/15/24 08:26 AM ET
I'm not going to go crazy finding the clip or post, but I recall it being a
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 15, 2024 at 04:52 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/15/24 04:52 PM ET
Completely disagree. Have you watched Josh Pate? He doesn’t do that.
-- hokieZ71
Jul 15, 2024 at 11:20 AM ET
hokieZ71
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07/15/24 11:20 AM ET
I like Josh Pate. That's why I was surprised he went down the path of
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 15, 2024 at 04:57 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/15/24 04:57 PM ET
I agree too. But it’s also why I think he might actually know something**
-- hokieZ71
Jul 15, 2024 at 05:21 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/15/24 05:21 PM ET
Greg Flugaur reminds me of one of Bill Swerski's Superfans from SNL back
-- VPI_1998
Jul 15, 2024 at 03:02 PM ET
VPI_1998
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07/15/24 03:02 PM ET
He needs some sunglasses, a ‘stache and a draft beer.**
-- hokieZ71
Jul 16, 2024 at 01:39 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/16/24 01:39 PM ET
I have watched him plenty of times......
-- 2hhoop3
Jul 15, 2024 at 11:36 AM ET
2hhoop3
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07/15/24 11:36 AM ET
Exactly, this one time. Which makes me think there’s something to it.
-- hokieZ71
Jul 15, 2024 at 12:04 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/15/24 12:04 PM ET
It didn’t seem like he heard something vague.
-- hokieZ71
Jul 15, 2024 at 12:21 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/15/24 12:21 PM ET
He said “it might very well be in July”; Also said “It’ll happen by Aug15”
-- hokieZ71
Jul 15, 2024 at 12:42 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/15/24 12:42 PM ET
With that definition there hasn’t been “real information” since Calford/SMU
-- hokieZ71
Jul 15, 2024 at 01:02 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/15/24 01:02 PM ET
Maybe the ACC v. Clemson court stalemate
-- Victor Tango
Jul 15, 2024 at 08:33 AM ET
Victor Tango
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07/15/24 08:33 AM ET
Legit question, who are the best football brands in the B12? And…
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jul 14, 2024 at 10:18 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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07/14/24 10:18 PM ET
No one is saying that the B12 is a better conference than the ACC when
-- Big12 guy
Jul 15, 2024 at 06:07 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/15/24 06:07 PM ET
So where are Clemson ad FSU going if not SEC and B1G?
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2024 at 12:06 AM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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07/16/24 12:06 AM ET
Thanks for responding. Truth is, i don't really care who "wins". We
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2024 at 07:08 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/24 07:08 AM ET
I personally think B12 and their media partners may be in a pinch.
-- winston-hoo
Jul 15, 2024 at 11:05 AM ET
winston-hoo
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07/15/24 11:05 AM ET
Can someone please help me understand all the ACC! ACC! ACC! stuff-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 09:50 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/15/24 09:50 AM ET
I have been telling you but you won't listen so trying again
-- VTCALS72
Jul 15, 2024 at 01:05 PM ET
VTCALS72
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07/15/24 01:05 PM ET
The ACC losing FSU/CLEM < Big12, let alone ACC losing (4) teams.**
-- 133193Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 03:24 PM ET
133193Hokie
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07/15/24 03:24 PM ET
You'll give yourself arthritis arguing with this guy about this...
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 03:40 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/15/24 03:40 PM ET
Sure, you've "been telling me," but what you've been telling me-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 03:17 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/15/24 03:17 PM ET
Not going into it all but I also don't believe the ACC will add any more
-- VTCALS72
Jul 15, 2024 at 03:33 PM ET
VTCALS72
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07/15/24 03:33 PM ET
Have you ever been to a game west of the Mississippi? It's
-- Big12 guy
Jul 15, 2024 at 07:07 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/15/24 07:07 PM ET
No and that is the point. West of the Mississippi just as well be on the
-- VTCALS72
Jul 15, 2024 at 08:14 PM ET
VTCALS72
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07/15/24 08:14 PM ET
My friends, fierce fans of KU, K-State, and Iowa State say the exact same
-- Big12 guy
Jul 15, 2024 at 09:11 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/15/24 09:11 PM ET
I respect your opinion and perspective.
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2024 at 06:23 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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07/16/24 06:23 PM ET
The markets on the East coast are larger, no doubt. The difference is
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2024 at 06:59 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/24 06:59 PM ET
Yes the ACC has some bottoms-feeders and that is our only real problem.
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2024 at 07:19 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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07/16/24 07:19 PM ET
B12 doesn't compare to FSU, Clemson, ND, and even Miami. hands
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2024 at 07:26 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/24 07:26 PM ET
Yet no one has taken our Top-4 away so…?
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2024 at 07:47 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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07/16/24 07:47 PM ET
Your first paragraph is exactly what I have been saying
-- VTCALS72
Jul 15, 2024 at 11:26 PM ET
VTCALS72
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07/15/24 11:26 PM ET
Your last 4 words is where I disagree with you completely. I'd rather
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2024 at 07:22 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/24 07:22 AM ET
time to end this thread so here is mine and you get the last word
-- VTCALS72
Jul 16, 2024 at 07:49 AM ET
VTCALS72
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07/16/24 07:49 AM ET
Then we end this thread more in agreement, than disagreement. **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2024 at 07:52 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/24 07:52 AM ET
A very good point. Most that I talk too out here in flyover, do not
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2024 at 07:30 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/24 07:30 AM ET
So now playing Liberty and JMU is better than playing the Big 12?
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 03:38 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/15/24 03:38 PM ET
Hokie fans want what is best for the Hokies
-- SpeakToDamien
Jul 15, 2024 at 12:40 PM ET
SpeakToDamien
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07/15/24 12:40 PM ET
If only the ACC admin cared about the viability of its big football brands-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 03:30 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/15/24 03:30 PM ET
Ok. Like whatever you like.**
-- SpeakToDamien
Jul 15, 2024 at 04:23 PM ET
SpeakToDamien
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07/15/24 04:23 PM ET
Not sure how you come to that conclusion…
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 09:37 AM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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07/15/24 09:37 AM ET
Which four Big12 schools are better programs / brands than…
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 09:43 AM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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07/15/24 09:43 AM ET
Almost all of them are on par with the ACC schools you listed, except
-- Big12 guy
Jul 15, 2024 at 07:11 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/15/24 07:11 PM ET
The B12 thinks FSU and Clem are coming but they aren’t.
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-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 11:48 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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07/15/24 11:48 PM ET
Why in the world is WVU not in the ACC to begin with? Cincy has been there
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2024 at 07:12 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/24 07:12 AM ET
Also the B12 has lost Texas, Oklahoma,Texas A&M, Nebraska, Mizzou, Colorado
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 11:56 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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07/15/24 11:56 PM ET
Laugh all you want, but those teams with the addition of 3 G5's and
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2024 at 12:14 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/24 12:14 PM ET
ACC contract was signed 8 years ago, B12’s last year.
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2024 at 03:26 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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07/16/24 03:26 PM ET
Wouldn't surprise me either, but SMU and CalFord wil not
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2024 at 03:51 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/24 03:51 PM ET
At this point I highly doubt Clemson leaves. And FSU is gonna…
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jul 16, 2024 at 05:32 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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07/16/24 05:32 PM ET
Yes. I was surprised by the amount to be honest. The reason they got the
-- Big12 guy
Jul 16, 2024 at 12:54 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/16/24 12:54 PM ET
Do you think UM, VT, UNC, and Lville are really going-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 10:14 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/15/24 10:14 AM ET
If those 4 don't get a P2 offer, the ACC with them in it is way better than
-- VTCALS72
Jul 15, 2024 at 01:22 PM ET
VTCALS72
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07/15/24 01:22 PM ET
I don't think that's in any way a given.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 02:57 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/15/24 02:57 PM ET
The PAC-12 sure got away from their "Wakes and BCs."
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 03:36 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/15/24 03:36 PM ET
I'm not sure I would have included the Big East Football Conference in the
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 15, 2024 at 12:29 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/15/24 12:29 PM ET
Had that not happened, the Big East Football Conference-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 03:55 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/15/24 03:55 PM ET
BYU, Utah, TCU, OK St, K St**
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 10:11 AM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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07/15/24 10:11 AM ET
Then the ACC should poach all five of them now**
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 10:27 AM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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07/15/24 10:27 AM ET
Yeah, I'm sure all five would sign up immediately to join a conference-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 11:58 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/15/24 11:58 AM ET
Last I looked, these teams were making more money in Big12…..
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 10:35 AM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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07/15/24 10:35 AM ET
ACC has the much better brands.
-- HouClone
Jul 15, 2024 at 09:09 AM ET
HouClone
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07/15/24 09:09 AM ET
You must be living in an alternate reality-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 10:18 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/15/24 10:18 AM ET
On other hand….AZ, AZSt, UCF and Houston have larger enrollments…
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 11:08 AM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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07/15/24 11:08 AM ET
What does that mean? What is it worth?
-- VTCALS72
Jul 15, 2024 at 03:35 PM ET
VTCALS72
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07/15/24 03:35 PM ET
Counter point to living alumni. Not sure it means anything in a vacuum**
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 03:48 PM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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07/15/24 03:48 PM ET
I’m not sure using teams trying to leave. . .
-- dayooper
Jul 15, 2024 at 11:08 AM ET
dayooper
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07/15/24 11:08 AM ET
They didn't outwit the PAC. The PAC, like the ACC turned their
-- Big12 guy
Jul 15, 2024 at 07:22 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/15/24 07:22 PM ET
I think BYU is the top brand in the XII. Not by much though.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 15, 2024 at 08:10 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/15/24 08:10 AM ET
I can assure you WVU wants no part of the ACC**
-- Millpoint
Jul 15, 2024 at 07:15 AM ET
Millpoint
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07/15/24 07:15 AM ET
It is one thing to make........
-- 2hhoop3
Jul 15, 2024 at 09:39 AM ET
2hhoop3
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07/15/24 09:39 AM ET
The value of the ACC will be less after the major players are gone
-- Millpoint
Jul 15, 2024 at 12:11 PM ET
Millpoint
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07/15/24 12:11 PM ET
Why would ACC schools want to join the Big XII instead of forming a new
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 15, 2024 at 12:44 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/15/24 12:44 PM ET
Maybe that will be how it plays out**
-- Millpoint
Jul 15, 2024 at 08:33 PM ET
Millpoint
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07/15/24 08:33 PM ET
They’ve wanted in the ACC for many decades and would jump asap**
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 09:31 AM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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07/15/24 09:31 AM ET
To have a seat on a sinking ship
-- Millpoint
Jul 15, 2024 at 12:13 PM ET
Millpoint
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07/15/24 12:13 PM ET
Yeah, cutting those travel costs in half just sucks...lol**
-- EDGEMAN
Jul 15, 2024 at 08:24 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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07/15/24 08:24 AM ET
Playing in an ACC without Clemson, FSU, UNC and possibly others
-- Millpoint
Jul 15, 2024 at 12:06 PM ET
Millpoint
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07/15/24 12:06 PM ET
Big 12 should be thankful for the incompetence of the Pac 12
-- VaTechHokiesACC
Jul 15, 2024 at 04:02 AM ET
VaTechHokiesACC
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07/15/24 04:02 AM ET
They may soon be thankful about ACC incompetence - we will see**
-- 133193Hokie
Jul 15, 2024 at 08:54 AM ET
133193Hokie
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07/15/24 08:54 AM ET
It proves what happens when one is arrogant **
-- Millpoint
Jul 15, 2024 at 07:09 AM ET
Millpoint
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07/15/24 07:09 AM ET
Do I detect a touch of hubris in that statement? Ironical…**
-- hokieZ71
Jul 15, 2024 at 08:29 AM ET
hokieZ71
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07/15/24 08:29 AM ET
The ACC beats the Big 12 too in private schools, 7 to 3.
-- HouClone
Jul 14, 2024 at 11:00 PM ET
HouClone
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07/14/24 11:00 PM ET
Pate Actually Gave Himself 9 Weeks Which Was the Time Until Football Season
-- WarHog38
Jul 14, 2024 at 07:47 PM ET
WarHog38
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07/14/24 07:47 PM ET
In one of his shows or tweets, he mentioned this week.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 15, 2024 at 07:56 AM ET
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07/15/24 07:56 AM ET