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hokieZ71
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Here’s the thing. There will still be an ACC.

Even if the Mag7 left, Duke, Wake, BC, Syracuse will remain. And having over a billion dollars of settlement money means that league can invite who it wants as opposed to having to break up. Gonzaga? UConn? Villanova? San Diego St? If going PE is what it takes for the Big XII to make its attempt to add FSU, Clemson, Miami and Louisville, then it’s worth it for the Big XII to shoot its shot. Given all that, it is my ‘opinion’ that FSU and the B1G have already made their agreement. (And that’s been my opinion since back in 2023; it wasn’t formulated in the past 24 hours by reading this board.)
Posted: 07/13/2024 at 01:36 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Looks like the NFL is going to private equity for at least 10%
Big12 guy 07/13/24 12:41 PM ET
It's not ownership of the league. It's a 10% cap on an NFL team's ownership
PadrosWindup 07/14/24 09:19 AM ET
you can't pay investors with goodwill...be careful what you wish for**
MrBayAreaHokie 07/13/24 09:26 PM ET
I assure you, I'm not wishing for
Big12 guy 07/13/24 09:59 PM ET
Big-12 Gets What From NFL For 10%?
WarHog38 07/13/24 05:59 PM ET
There has been nothing mentioned what they would do with that money. I
Big12 guy 07/13/24 06:22 PM ET
There will be no "P3". There will only be a P2. And anyone who thinks that
tarheelblue 07/13/24 10:08 PM ET
Sheer delusion here…
HydrogenHokie 07/14/24 01:40 PM ET
True! The big cash winners will be the Law Firms handling this craziness!!**
ancient alien 2018 07/15/24 01:12 AM ET
If you don't believe the P2 and Big media are dictating this together,
VTCALS72 07/14/24 03:43 PM ET
Sad but that's the road we are going down **
VaTechHokiesACC 07/14/24 09:58 PM ET
It is sad, disgusting and a whole host of other words
VTCALS72 07/15/24 07:39 AM ET
Well of course it is. They know that fans will watch no matter what.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/15/24 10:29 AM ET
We have disagreed a lot but not on this.**
VTCALS72 07/15/24 12:50 PM ET
Truth. That's why neither has any incentive to change the status quo.
neworleanshoo 07/14/24 11:57 AM ET
Yep, and that's the bottom line.**
VTCALS72 07/14/24 06:48 AM ET
"Cause Stone Cold says so" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ancient alien 2018 07/15/24 01:14 AM ET
I disagree with that entire post. **
Big12 guy 07/13/24 10:35 PM ET
He's 100% right.
neworleanshoo 07/14/24 11:57 AM ET
OMG, he is pretty much spot on **
HokiesACC2004 07/13/24 11:11 PM ET
My thinking is that ESPN and FOX NEED that 3rd conference. Never
Big12 guy 07/14/24 07:40 AM ET
If the ACC is a valid target, so is the Big XII.
hokieZ71 07/14/24 09:40 AM ET
Wow, excellent post **
VaTechHokiesACC 07/14/24 09:57 PM ET
That is a good post. Most of these decisions being
Big12 guy 07/14/24 10:01 AM ET
It is not NFL giving Big 12 10%....
2hhoop3 07/13/24 06:19 PM ET
It seems if this "PE" thing does work out for...
Old Line Hokie 07/13/24 08:20 PM ET
I would guess.....
2hhoop3 07/13/24 08:30 PM ET
The NFL isn't just considering PE, they are in active
Big12 guy 07/13/24 09:11 PM ET
You better do some.....
2hhoop3 07/14/24 12:45 AM ET
Sounds pretty active to me. **
Big12 guy 07/14/24 06:26 AM ET
Thanks For Clarification
WarHog38 07/13/24 07:14 PM ET
When players start doing.....
2hhoop3 07/13/24 07:23 PM ET
Ever see Idiocracy where even the politicians have to plug their sponsors
VPI_1998 07/14/24 05:14 AM ET
You are correct, but the concept is the same. **
Big12 guy 07/13/24 06:29 PM ET
Maybe similar but.........
2hhoop3 07/13/24 06:50 PM ET
I agree with this as well. It would have to be something that increases the
Big12 guy 07/13/24 07:06 PM ET
Seems to me ......
2hhoop3 07/13/24 07:20 PM ET
PE firms aren't going to do anything until it's decided how and when a
manassashoo 07/13/24 04:39 PM ET
The B12 doesn't need PE money to save them from anything. I believe
Big12 guy 07/13/24 06:02 PM ET
A non flyover view of what the big 12 is
VTCALS72 07/15/24 07:56 AM ET
It comes down to the players and recruiting. Do you honestly think
Big12 guy 07/15/24 04:08 PM ET
Then quit bragging about PE money closing the gap between the P2 and
manassashoo 07/13/24 07:01 PM ET
No one is bragging. I will lament he loss of the ACC as we have known the
Big12 guy 07/13/24 10:17 PM ET
You guys aren't immune from any of this
HokiesACC2004 07/13/24 11:12 PM ET
I hope not. **
Big12 guy 07/14/24 06:26 AM ET
Does it really matter.......
2hhoop3 07/14/24 01:12 AM ET
Just need them to realistically contend
Big12 guy 07/14/24 09:50 AM ET
It will likely take........
2hhoop3 07/13/24 08:07 PM ET
Exactly **
HokiesACC2004 07/13/24 10:05 PM ET
Fair play. FSU and Clemson getting out of a GOR might make the B12 risky….**
hokieZ71 07/13/24 04:43 PM ET
Exactly. Why would you invest billions, when your top brands can leave
manassashoo 07/13/24 04:48 PM ET
They see the emergence of new brands
HouClone 07/13/24 06:47 PM ET
IMHO it is exactly the opposite, they want only their brands
VTCALS72 07/14/24 06:52 AM ET
So what would keep them from leaving in the future. That's what the PE
manassashoo 07/13/24 06:59 PM ET
Good point, valid concern.
HouClone 07/13/24 07:07 PM ET
so what if my prediction of the P2 then miles and miles between them and
VTCALS72 07/13/24 03:13 PM ET
But Big 12 guy is saying the Big 12 uses their PE$ to close the gap.
hokieZ71 07/13/24 04:40 PM ET
We are on different realities and you are right, they will not intersect
VTCALS72 07/15/24 07:44 AM ET
Yep big media will not allow the P2 they are building to be challenged
VTCALS72 07/13/24 08:02 PM ET
Bring back the Ivy League.
VPI 1924 07/13/24 02:52 PM ET
The NFL and PE are........
2hhoop3 07/13/24 12:48 PM ET
Your opinion does not negate the direction that PE seems to
Big12 guy 07/13/24 12:55 PM ET
You could buy a couple schools’ half billion ACC buyouts with that.**
hokieZ71 07/13/24 01:11 PM ET
B12 sells their conference and gives the money to the ACC? How
Big12 guy 07/13/24 01:21 PM ET
Here’s the thing. There will still be an ACC.
hokieZ71 07/13/24 01:36 PM ET
Couldn’t a PE firm buy out the best brands in the ACC/B12?…
BROman Hokie 07/13/24 01:58 PM ET
Yes, if schools like UNC and UVA probably weren’t 100% against the B12
hokieZ71 07/13/24 02:12 PM ET
You make UNC abd UVA sound
Big12 guy 07/13/24 03:52 PM ET
Not at all. Calford didnt have an option to stay in the PAC 12.
hokieZ71 07/13/24 04:09 PM ET
No, it's not that, it's the sticking their nose up to the B12. "Academic"
Big12 guy 07/13/24 05:56 PM ET
Not academic elitism. Athletic elitism.
hokieZ71 07/13/24 06:33 PM ET
I was not questioning.....
2hhoop3 07/13/24 01:01 PM ET
I don't disagree with what you said, and didn't imply that isn't
Big12 guy 07/13/24 01:04 PM ET
I think you were....
2hhoop3 07/13/24 01:11 PM ET