Agreed. The ACC knows that ND is never joining
ND is not at all a factor in what the ACC is planning. Unless the ACC are total idiots and ignoring all the obvious information out there. But let’s assume the new ACC leaders are not totally stupid.
As for why no expansion yet, I think the dominos needed to fall in a certain order. First was BIG media deal. Next is ND media deal. Once those pieces are set the ACC can use them as a baseline to discuss expansion scenarios with ESPN.
The good news is that the ACC has an existing deal and a dedicated network. So now it becomes a discussion for how to improve things in order to make it more valuable. I could see the ACC expanding any time between now and next summer. But I do think they will act within the next year to go to 16. My money is on WVU and Cincinnati to stay close to current footprint but also get new states.
Thread Replies (31)
Why should ACC "move on" from ND?
-- gman86
Aug 22, 2022 at 10:24 AM ET
gman86
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08/22/22 10:24 AM ET
The ACC needs to go on the offensive
-- HokieZig
Aug 22, 2022 at 03:34 PM ET
HokieZig
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08/22/22 03:34 PM ET
We have IMO moved on from full ND membership
-- Truthahn
Aug 22, 2022 at 02:25 PM ET
Truthahn
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08/22/22 02:25 PM ET
The ACC just needs to realize ND is not a long term member
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 22, 2022 at 12:32 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/22/22 12:32 PM ET
Agreed. Continue to have ND relationship under current TV deal,
-- hokiesrule98
Aug 22, 2022 at 04:00 PM ET
hokiesrule98
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08/22/22 04:00 PM ET
They can’t move on unless ND leaves. However expansion wise, move on. Stop
-- Stech
Aug 22, 2022 at 11:21 AM ET
Stech
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08/22/22 11:21 AM ET
Would you still leave ND's ACC games at 5 with 16 schools?
-- Victor Tango
Aug 22, 2022 at 11:53 AM ET
Victor Tango
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08/22/22 11:53 AM ET
I would get WVU in and allow ND a road game there each year.**
-- MrFantastic!
Aug 22, 2022 at 03:27 PM ET
MrFantastic!
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08/22/22 03:27 PM ET
ND hated the 2000 game there so much....
-- TerryD
Aug 22, 2022 at 03:48 PM ET
TerryD
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08/22/22 03:48 PM ET
I thought I remembered a similar experience with Miami
-- HOO86
Aug 22, 2022 at 04:22 PM ET
HOO86
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08/22/22 04:22 PM ET
Because some schools want to keep the dissolution number at 8?
-- Truthahn
Aug 22, 2022 at 02:18 PM ET
Truthahn
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08/22/22 02:18 PM ET
I don’t think unless they leave, it will change, it’s an asset. However,
-- Stech
Aug 22, 2022 at 12:03 PM ET
Stech
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08/22/22 12:03 PM ET
ND isn't holding the ACC back from expanding
-- TerryD
Aug 22, 2022 at 01:01 PM ET
TerryD
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08/22/22 01:01 PM ET
Ignorance of academia desires.
-- MrFantastic!
Aug 22, 2022 at 03:20 PM ET
MrFantastic!
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08/22/22 03:20 PM ET
Agreed. The ACC knows that ND is never joining
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-- HokieAl
Aug 22, 2022 at 01:44 PM ET
HokieAl
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08/22/22 01:44 PM ET
I wish the ACC would do it. But can’t see them being that bold
-- HokieAl
Aug 22, 2022 at 04:13 PM ET
HokieAl
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08/22/22 04:13 PM ET
The ACC would be crazy to walk away from ND.**
-- reestuart
Aug 22, 2022 at 11:03 AM ET
reestuart
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08/22/22 11:03 AM ET
E$PN would reduce ACC's (and obviously VT's) payout by a bunch if they.
-- Lakeridgehokie
Aug 22, 2022 at 11:22 AM ET
Lakeridgehokie
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08/22/22 11:22 AM ET
And $ would go up if we started beating them regularly.
-- Truthahn
Aug 22, 2022 at 02:28 PM ET
Truthahn
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08/22/22 02:28 PM ET
would also likely lose some bowl bids.**
-- reestuart
Aug 22, 2022 at 11:24 AM ET
reestuart
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08/22/22 11:24 AM ET
Only when the current bowl contract runs out. Even if the ACC continues
-- VTHokie2000
Aug 22, 2022 at 12:20 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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08/22/22 12:20 PM ET
Agreed. It is a mutually beneficial relationship
-- HokieAl
Aug 22, 2022 at 11:00 AM ET
HokieAl
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08/22/22 11:00 AM ET
Agree 100% but it is an emotional issue for some, not rational. On the
-- Femoyer Hokie
Aug 22, 2022 at 10:36 AM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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08/22/22 10:36 AM ET
One foot out the door .....
-- MrFantastic!
Aug 22, 2022 at 10:34 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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08/22/22 10:34 AM ET
One foot was never in the door...by mutual agreement
-- TerryD
Aug 22, 2022 at 12:57 PM ET
TerryD
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08/22/22 12:57 PM ET
We may have a foot out the door but we won't move first
-- goldendomer
Aug 22, 2022 at 11:05 AM ET
goldendomer
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08/22/22 11:05 AM ET
They need to convince 8 other ACC schools, if not more. It’s a very tall
-- Stech
Aug 22, 2022 at 11:24 AM ET
Stech
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08/22/22 11:24 AM ET
and 8 other schools have no guaranteed destination.**
-- obguthr
Aug 22, 2022 at 12:45 PM ET
obguthr
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08/22/22 12:45 PM ET
8 at a minimum need to vote to leave, you can bet they will have places to
-- Stech
Aug 22, 2022 at 12:54 PM ET
Stech
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08/22/22 12:54 PM ET