How are the PAC 12 schools looking?

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BBBDatVT

Most will end up better off than ACC schools if we can’t get out of this GOR deal. Half the PAC 12 is headed to the B1G and those left behind will make similar money to the ACC schools once they merge with the Big12. And don’t forget that the Pac12 has averaged better payouts the last decade than the ACC. The Big East was always a hodgepodge of schools. They started off in a hole and was so successful for their programs that several were able to graduate up to a more secure league. The legacy of a Swofford is each and every ACC program is worse off now than it was because of his work, including this horrible TV deal and GOR. And also, even Big12 programs like WVU have been averaging better payouts than Clemson, UNC, or FSU for a while now. Swofford May have killed off what Frank built here in Blacksburg. He sure did practically everything he could to do it. ** Edited by BBBDatVT at 7/30/2022, 7:08:34 AM

Posted: 07/30/2022 at 12:31 AM ET

(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)

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George Kliavkoff: The PAC12 is actively exploring expansion opportunities -- HOO86 Jul 29, 2022 at 04:12 PM ET

HOO86 • 07/29/22 04:12 PM ET

Big12 may be open for business, but they became a discount store last fall** -- Vienna_Hokie Jul 31, 2022 at 09:30 PM ET

Vienna_Hokie • 07/31/22 09:30 PM ET

That last one was hilarious!!! 🤣 He may keep the PAC after all!!! -- Stech Jul 29, 2022 at 07:53 PM ET

Stech • 07/29/22 07:53 PM ET

San Diego State and UNLV? -- Old Line Hokie Jul 29, 2022 at 06:59 PM ET

Old Line Hokie • 07/29/22 06:59 PM ET

They have a network, so new states. -- HOO86 Jul 29, 2022 at 10:06 PM ET

HOO86 • 07/29/22 10:06 PM ET

There are 2 potential things that UNLV has going for it. -- VTHokie2000 Jul 29, 2022 at 09:39 PM ET

VTHokie2000 • 07/29/22 09:39 PM ET

Not a good look. I know he's in a bind, but -- Maroon Baboon Jul 29, 2022 at 04:40 PM ET

Maroon Baboon • 07/29/22 04:40 PM ET

Nah the Big 12 Commish has been -- Vippie1 Jul 29, 2022 at 05:13 PM ET

Vippie1 • 07/29/22 05:13 PM ET

Doubt that -- Marooned Jul 29, 2022 at 10:09 PM ET

Marooned • 07/29/22 10:09 PM ET

I agree -- VT Pops Jul 29, 2022 at 06:02 PM ET

VT Pops • 07/29/22 06:02 PM ET

The Pac-X will be able to do nothing long term unless B1G gives -- Maroon Baboon Jul 29, 2022 at 06:48 PM ET

Maroon Baboon • 07/29/22 06:48 PM ET

True, but Mike Tranghese still has him beat. -- HOO86 Jul 29, 2022 at 04:57 PM ET

HOO86 • 07/29/22 04:57 PM ET

Nobody and I mean nobody has been worse than Swofford. -- BBBDatVT Jul 29, 2022 at 07:15 PM ET

BBBDatVT • 07/29/22 07:15 PM ET

GOR was a master stroke given current times. It brought sanity to things** -- 133743Hokie Jul 29, 2022 at 09:16 PM ET

133743Hokie • 07/29/22 09:16 PM ET

Lol. Its a death sentence for bigtime ACC football programs. ** -- BBBDatVT Jul 30, 2022 at 12:21 AM ET

BBBDatVT • 07/30/22 12:21 AM ET

Not close.... -- 2hhoop3 Jul 29, 2022 at 07:25 PM ET

2hhoop3 • 07/29/22 07:25 PM ET

How are the PAC 12 schools looking? ◄ -- BBBDatVT Jul 30, 2022 at 12:31 AM ET

BBBDatVT • 07/30/22 12:31 AM ET

Again.... -- 2hhoop3 Jul 30, 2022 at 07:44 AM ET

2hhoop3 • 07/30/22 07:44 AM ET

It’s a dead end discussing with him -- HokieAl Jul 30, 2022 at 09:06 AM ET

HokieAl • 07/30/22 09:06 AM ET

Facts are that the ACC went from first to nearly worst. -- BBBDatVT Jul 30, 2022 at 10:12 AM ET

BBBDatVT • 07/30/22 10:12 AM ET

It is just.... -- 2hhoop3 Jul 30, 2022 at 10:02 AM ET

2hhoop3 • 07/30/22 10:02 AM ET

Dang. You got problems man. Angry a lot? -- BBBDatVT Jul 30, 2022 at 10:14 AM ET

BBBDatVT • 07/30/22 10:14 AM ET

angry? problems? you have 59 posts in less than 2 days** -- daveinop Jul 30, 2022 at 12:09 PM ET

daveinop • 07/30/22 12:09 PM ET

There has never been..... -- 2hhoop3 Jul 30, 2022 at 10:58 AM ET

2hhoop3 • 07/30/22 10:58 AM ET

Lame and empty? Been spot on for a dozen years now. -- BBBDatVT Jul 30, 2022 at 11:11 AM ET

BBBDatVT • 07/30/22 11:11 AM ET

Yes lame and empty...... -- 2hhoop3 Jul 30, 2022 at 11:27 AM ET

2hhoop3 • 07/30/22 11:27 AM ET

To date, the Pac12 Network has earned far more than the ACCN. -- BBBDatVT Jul 30, 2022 at 01:21 PM ET

BBBDatVT • 07/30/22 01:21 PM ET

Depends on.... -- 2hhoop3 Jul 30, 2022 at 03:00 PM ET

2hhoop3 • 07/30/22 03:00 PM ET

You cannot think abstractly, lets address mathing. -- BBBDatVT Jul 31, 2022 at 02:04 PM ET

BBBDatVT • 07/31/22 02:04 PM ET

PAC 12..... -- 2hhoop3 Jul 31, 2022 at 05:04 PM ET

2hhoop3 • 07/31/22 05:04 PM ET

There were huge start up costs involved in the ACCN too. ** -- BBBDatVT_ Jul 31, 2022 at 08:18 PM ET

BBBDatVT_ • 07/31/22 08:18 PM ET

You're right..... -- 2hhoop3 Aug 01, 2022 at 11:43 AM ET

2hhoop3 • 08/01/22 11:43 AM ET

If the goal is to keep the conference together, Swofford did good. -- BBBDatVT Jul 30, 2022 at 08:36 AM ET

BBBDatVT • 07/30/22 08:36 AM ET

If it's true, I think it is bad business by the B1G to string schools along -- Maroon Baboon Jul 29, 2022 at 05:27 PM ET

Maroon Baboon • 07/29/22 05:27 PM ET

It's the classic "no press is bad press" -- HokieAl Jul 29, 2022 at 05:43 PM ET

HokieAl • 07/29/22 05:43 PM ET

Damn. That is some good reading. Clearly no love there -- HokieAl Jul 29, 2022 at 04:29 PM ET

HokieAl • 07/29/22 04:29 PM ET

The PAC is a much better brand -- Vippie1 Jul 29, 2022 at 05:19 PM ET

Vippie1 • 07/29/22 05:19 PM ET

I could see 2 to 6 of the B12 going to the PAC -- Truthahn Jul 31, 2022 at 09:31 PM ET

Truthahn • 07/31/22 09:31 PM ET

Was and is still, but will not be -- obguthr Jul 29, 2022 at 06:49 PM ET

obguthr • 07/29/22 06:49 PM ET

Man, talk above gloves off -- Vippie1 Jul 29, 2022 at 04:28 PM ET

Vippie1 • 07/29/22 04:28 PM ET