Yes, and is why I think the ACC will be fine if they
only lose FSU and Clemson.
Thread Replies (56)
Why is all the talk about the Big12 taking ACC members…,
-- jjhokie2
Jun 18, 2024 at 04:56 PM ET
jjhokie2
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06/18/24 04:56 PM ET
If we keep our two playoff slots, why jump to the other conference?
-- Truthahn
Jun 20, 2024 at 11:43 AM ET
Truthahn
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06/20/24 11:43 AM ET
Most realignment talk is a product of either hope or fear. What do you
-- 33laszlo99
Jun 19, 2024 at 08:15 AM ET
33laszlo99
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06/19/24 08:15 AM ET
Yeah most B12 boosters pronouncement
-- Vippie1
Jun 19, 2024 at 09:59 AM ET
Vippie1
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06/19/24 09:59 AM ET
Why would they? You can make a case for WVU, UCF
-- VTCALS72
Jun 19, 2024 at 05:22 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/19/24 05:22 PM ET
SMU, Cal, Stanford don't make sense for regionality**
-- HouClone
Jun 19, 2024 at 05:49 PM ET
HouClone
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06/19/24 05:49 PM ET
Neither do Az, AZ ST, Col and Utah
-- VTCALS72
Jun 19, 2024 at 07:14 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/19/24 07:14 PM ET
Yeah, maybe. They will still run into the same issues the Pac had before.
-- HouClone
Jun 20, 2024 at 03:05 PM ET
HouClone
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06/20/24 03:05 PM ET
That is why the PAC will come back
-- VTCALS72
Jun 20, 2024 at 08:44 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/20/24 08:44 PM ET
Ya, for VT fans, that would be the play. The business people might look at
-- Big12 guy
Jun 19, 2024 at 10:03 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/19/24 10:03 AM ET
I don't think anyone outside of either P2 Conference knows who they want...
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 19, 2024 at 08:26 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/19/24 08:26 AM ET
Because the talk is coming from Big 12 people**
-- wwhokie1
Jun 19, 2024 at 12:13 AM ET
wwhokie1
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06/19/24 12:13 AM ET
I have not seen a lot of chatter about Big 12 raiding ACC**
-- ombandit
Jun 18, 2024 at 06:18 PM ET
ombandit
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06/18/24 06:18 PM ET
Not raiding, no, but picking up teams from the aftermath, yes.
-- Truthahn
Jun 19, 2024 at 12:50 PM ET
Truthahn
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06/19/24 12:50 PM ET
We have a network. They don't.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 18, 2024 at 05:14 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/18/24 05:14 PM ET
Maybe the ACCN makes a PAC/ACC merger possible?
-- Truthahn
Jun 20, 2024 at 10:07 AM ET
Truthahn
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06/20/24 10:07 AM ET
I think that is going to be huge going forward.
-- VTCALS72
Jun 19, 2024 at 06:53 AM ET
VTCALS72
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06/19/24 06:53 AM ET
Minus FSU, Clemson and UNC it’s definitely not
-- Millpoint
Jun 18, 2024 at 05:07 PM ET
Millpoint
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06/18/24 05:07 PM ET
Documented the B12 gave the ACC their GOR, if it’s null, it’s null for both
-- Stech
Jun 18, 2024 at 09:41 PM ET
Stech
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06/18/24 09:41 PM ET
The P2 has zero targets in the B12.**
-- neworleanshoo
Jun 19, 2024 at 10:07 AM ET
neworleanshoo
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06/19/24 10:07 AM ET
Probably right not many, but if basketball expands 🏀 tourney and pays
-- Stech
Jun 19, 2024 at 10:48 AM ET
Stech
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06/19/24 10:48 AM ET
If that's the case, I can see WVU and UCF moving to the ACC IOT...
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 19, 2024 at 07:15 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/19/24 07:15 AM ET
That would have worked just 3 years ago, but the ACC did not
-- Big12 guy
Jun 19, 2024 at 08:11 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/19/24 08:11 AM ET
You hit this one out of the ball park
-- DMV Gobbler
Jun 19, 2024 at 07:07 AM ET
DMV Gobbler
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06/19/24 07:07 AM ET
I don't think you hated to tell him that... :)**
-- NokieHokie
Jun 19, 2024 at 01:40 PM ET
NokieHokie
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06/19/24 01:40 PM ET
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you like." Mark Twain
-- ancient alien 2018
Jun 21, 2024 at 12:05 AM ET
ancient alien 2018
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06/21/24 12:05 AM ET
Maybe we should call him "MerQury" haha!**
-- NokieHokie
Jun 19, 2024 at 02:34 PM ET
NokieHokie
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06/19/24 02:34 PM ET
This is why FSU & Clemson could be doing an SMU, no money but fight GOR.
-- Stech
Jun 19, 2024 at 09:31 AM ET
Stech
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06/19/24 09:31 AM ET
I think it was the ACC that copied it, but that doesn't matter,
-- Big12 guy
Jun 19, 2024 at 07:24 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/19/24 07:24 AM ET
Guarantee there are B12 schools who want into the P2.
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 19, 2024 at 08:29 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/19/24 08:29 AM ET
No doubt. No school would not take a P2 invite. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 19, 2024 at 08:46 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/19/24 08:46 AM ET
I don't agree. The remaining 14 are as strong as the B12 teams
-- VTCALS72
Jun 18, 2024 at 07:03 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/18/24 07:03 PM ET
Me, too. Also, the ACCN and the ND deal give the ACC the edge.
-- Truthahn
Jun 20, 2024 at 10:38 AM ET
Truthahn
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06/20/24 10:38 AM ET
I hadn't gotten around to thinking about the scheduling angle but, you are
-- VTCALS72
Jun 20, 2024 at 11:55 AM ET
VTCALS72
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06/20/24 11:55 AM ET
Big12 also lost their top 3 programs in recent years.
-- LonghornHokie
Jun 18, 2024 at 06:26 PM ET
LonghornHokie
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06/18/24 06:26 PM ET
While the departure of those three.....
-- 2hhoop3
Jun 18, 2024 at 05:49 PM ET
2hhoop3
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06/18/24 05:49 PM ET
True… and Utah, Colorado, Arizona and ASU gives them more gravitas.**
-- Hotus
Jun 18, 2024 at 05:42 PM ET
Hotus
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06/18/24 05:42 PM ET
I agree with your first point, but .......
-- mjfhokie
Jun 18, 2024 at 05:17 PM ET
mjfhokie
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06/18/24 05:17 PM ET
Big 12 teams are only breaking the GOR to go to the Big 10 or SEC. **
-- HouClone
Jun 18, 2024 at 06:09 PM ET
HouClone
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06/18/24 06:09 PM ET
I also don't think SEC, B1G, FOX and ESPN want to see TV Contracts & GORs
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 18, 2024 at 05:33 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/18/24 05:33 PM ET
Exactly, breaks the media deals all apart
-- DMV Gobbler
Jun 19, 2024 at 10:20 AM ET
DMV Gobbler
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06/19/24 10:20 AM ET
ACC has passed up B12 teams multiple times
-- HokieAl
Jun 18, 2024 at 05:02 PM ET
HokieAl
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06/18/24 05:02 PM ET
Your first point is just passed over by many, and I don't think many
-- Big12 guy
Jun 18, 2024 at 06:31 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/18/24 06:31 PM ET
Exactly nobody in the ACC or big 12 is fighting their GORs to
-- VTCALS72
Jun 18, 2024 at 07:07 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/18/24 07:07 PM ET
Yes, and is why I think the ACC will be fine if they
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-- Big12 guy
Jun 18, 2024 at 07:36 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/18/24 07:36 PM ET
A good time for the Mag 7 and some B12 schools to skim the cream and form
-- IB4TECH
Jun 18, 2024 at 07:30 PM ET
IB4TECH
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06/18/24 07:30 PM ET
Except that 10 seconds later FSU would be *****ing to get out of the MAG7.
-- Truthahn
Jun 20, 2024 at 10:16 AM ET
Truthahn
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06/20/24 10:16 AM ET
This is 100% the correct answer to the current crisis-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 19, 2024 at 11:56 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/19/24 11:56 AM ET
That's what I've been thinking
-- obguthr
Jun 19, 2024 at 07:23 AM ET
obguthr
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06/19/24 07:23 AM ET
The mag7 can do their own thing if they want - that has nothing
-- Big12 guy
Jun 18, 2024 at 07:42 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/18/24 07:42 PM ET
A conference with 7 members probably isn't enough members to generate
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 18, 2024 at 10:02 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/18/24 10:02 PM ET
Though a 10 team league is perfect
-- HouClone
Jun 18, 2024 at 11:00 PM ET
HouClone
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06/18/24 11:00 PM ET
While that may be true about perception, the weaknesses suddenly become
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 18, 2024 at 11:52 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/18/24 11:52 PM ET