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Maroon Baboon
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Maroon Baboon

You are speaking in platitudes and I have a hard time telling what you mean

For example, you say that you would support a plan to get out "yesterday" and that we should have a plan to get out "regardless of cost." This sort of language shows more of a sense of urgency, than a sense of reality. Sure, we should be trying to establish a plan to both exit the ACC, and enter one of the two P2 conferences. But in no way can these things realistically be done "yesterday" or even next week. As far as I know, we have no deal (formal or informal) with the Big Ten or the SEC. Does FSU and Clemson? Probably so. But we aren't FSU or Clemson, who have more football cachet than we do and no in-state public school that they are aligned with WRT their departure. There's levels to this. . Lastly, doing almost anything in life "regardless of cost" is usually a bad idea. Perhaps there are things in life where this maxim would apply, but for my money, college athletics isn't one of them. If the SEC came knocking right now and offered us the SMU deal (no TV revenue for 9 years), would you take it? If so, then you are setting up the program for failure and you could bankrupt the athletic department and we would probably never whiff a CFP birth (unless we come into SMU oil money). If no, then you are going against pretty much everything you just wrote.
Posted: 06/01/2024 at 02:55 AM ET
(In response to this post by INSIDE99)

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Worst case scenario
I85Hokie • 05/31/24 09:40 AM ET
A P2 super league is coming -- where is VT?
INSIDE99 • 06/01/24 12:26 AM ET
lmfao What crappola!! Keep posting, please. I need a dose of comedy
ancient alien 2018 • 06/01/24 09:24 PM ET
"move" where?**
Maroon Baboon • 06/01/24 01:13 AM ET
The P2
INSIDE99 • 06/01/24 02:16 AM ET
You are speaking in platitudes and I have a hard time telling what you mean ◄
Maroon Baboon • 06/01/24 02:55 AM ET
Regardless of cost
INSIDE99 • 06/01/24 12:42 PM ET
Good response. To the frustration of both of us, we aren't privy to what VT
Maroon Baboon • 06/01/24 01:14 PM ET
Just please get us as far away from Notre Dame as possible
Sunsetunderground • 05/31/24 08:42 PM ET
Go to th SEC or B1G it’ll be tough to win a 🏈 Conference Championship, but
Stech • 05/31/24 04:39 PM ET
And I thought it was Happy Wife/Happy Life. Or maybe Happy Wife = challenge**
CrystalCoveHokie • 05/31/24 05:48 PM ET
🤣 I think you got it right!**
Stech • 05/31/24 09:29 PM ET
That is not it. IMHO the worst is
VTCALS72 • 05/31/24 02:31 PM ET
Worst case is VT in B12 with Pitt, Syr, Lou and BC. UVA and UM to B1G….
CrystalCoveHokie • 05/31/24 01:30 PM ET
Worse than that
obguthr • 05/31/24 01:44 PM ET
Temple will get after you **
MrBayAreaHokie • 05/31/24 05:41 PM ET
I vividly recall VTs last game vs Temple - winning by a missed XP during
VPI_1998 • 06/01/24 06:14 AM ET
That was such a let down year**
MrBayAreaHokie • 06/01/24 10:42 AM ET
Don’t forget ECU, JMU and ODU**
CrystalCoveHokie • 05/31/24 01:47 PM ET
FSU will get a better home. Clemson, probably
goldendomer • 05/31/24 11:18 AM ET
And you probably know where most college football fans hope ND goes.**
ancient alien 2018 • 05/31/24 06:08 PM ET
Too Hell? **
goldendomer • 06/01/24 01:37 PM ET
Did I say that? An alternate dimension would be satisfactory with me.**
ancient alien 2018 • 06/01/24 09:08 PM ET
Yes, but isn't their path through the ACC way easier?
MVIII • 05/31/24 04:31 PM ET
The financial differences may not be a wash though. If Clemson and FSU
VTHokie2000 • 06/01/24 10:49 AM ET
It just depends if it is $150 million or $500 million.
MVIII • 06/01/24 04:05 PM ET
Yes, it will be interesting to see how everything unfolds because there are
VTHokie2000 • 06/02/24 02:40 PM ET
The thing people have not.......
2hhoop3 • 06/01/24 11:41 AM ET
The one thing that Clemson may have going for it is history. Clemson built
VTHokie2000 • 06/01/24 12:05 PM ET
I have thought that all along, you don't sue your Conference unless another
Stech • 05/31/24 12:03 PM ET
Inside99 is right? lmao He's almost as big a no-nothing as all the other
ancient alien 2018 • 05/31/24 06:07 PM ET
Can't see ND going anywhere unless forced to, which means a requirement
wwhokie1 • 05/31/24 01:48 PM ET
ND surprised me in the INSIDE99 post so I understand that response, but I
Stech • 05/31/24 02:47 PM ET
They should feel good......
2hhoop3 • 05/31/24 02:30 PM ET
Good money setup as well**
TerryD • 05/31/24 02:12 PM ET
No way until a new round of contracts are negotiated. **
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 12:08 PM ET
To Stech: No way 7+1 teams move from the ACC to the P2, no matter
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 12:19 PM ET
Oregon and Washington were added at $30M per year. That’s $240M for 7+1**
hokieZ71 • 05/31/24 08:38 PM ET
And that is less than the B12 pays. **
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 09:39 PM ET
Less than the ACC pays. 🤷‍♂️. The money’s starting to not make sense.
hokieZ71 • 05/31/24 09:52 PM ET
Something that may be worth considering is that the current 12-team CFP
VTHokie2000 • 06/01/24 10:55 AM ET
1st last question I said was who knows when? As n right now no 1 knows, 2nd
Stech • 05/31/24 12:58 PM ET
Why would ESPN push a settlement if FSU/Clemson are headed to the Big?
VTCALS72 • 05/31/24 07:58 PM ET
What do you think is going to happen?**
Stech • 05/31/24 09:33 PM ET
Whatever ESPN dictates but it makes no sense
VTCALS72 • 05/31/24 10:35 PM ET
At the micro level, I can see why you would say that, time will tell if you
Stech • 05/31/24 11:03 PM ET
I wish I could believe they did not control things but---
VTCALS72 • 06/01/24 08:14 AM ET
INSIDE99 says that ESPN will be fairly compensated when/if FSU & Clemson go
Stech • 06/01/24 12:00 PM ET
Yeah I get that but
VTCALS72 • 06/01/24 12:25 PM ET
Right word is protecting/keeping. They still have SC & FL, but Va & NC can
Stech • 06/01/24 01:12 PM ET
If FSU and Clemson have such a great value to the Big
VTCALS72 • 06/01/24 07:03 PM ET
Because the SEC already has the University of Florida & South Carolina, but
Stech • 06/01/24 07:47 PM ET
ESPN is not the all-powerful puppet master that we read about on the web.
33laszlo99 • 06/01/24 09:30 AM ET
I hate to break it to you......
2hhoop3 • 06/01/24 09:50 AM ET
Do you think ESPN can prevent the exit od FSU & Clemson?**
33laszlo99 • 06/01/24 10:09 AM ET
Permanently......
2hhoop3 • 06/01/24 10:51 AM ET
Not 2hhoop3, but absolutely
obguthr • 06/01/24 10:37 AM ET
However this plays out, ESPN will give the ACC an offer they can't refuse.
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 01:06 PM ET
"Settle" Why? The GOR is unbreakable and the only "settling" the ACC
ancient alien 2018 • 05/31/24 06:13 PM ET
Your opinion, not a fact. Seems pretty risky to take this to judgement.
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 06:26 PM ET
Why would you think the ESPN/ACC contract will offer any relief to FSU/Clem
VTCALS72 • 05/31/24 08:04 PM ET
Because ESPN is involved. I don't think for one second that ESPN wants the
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 09:36 PM ET
That is nice but did not answer my question,
VTCALS72 • 05/31/24 10:32 PM ET
1st point. FSU and Clemson are screaming about the ESPN/ACC contract
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 11:43 PM ET
You would not make it as a lawyer, too much truth
VTCALS72 • 06/01/24 08:09 AM ET
Doubt all 7 have landing spots. But more than two could have landing spots
wwhokie1 • 05/31/24 01:53 PM ET
Well Inside99 said it will all be settled by July 4th with fireworks, grab
Stech • 05/31/24 01:34 PM ET
FSU will announce before August 15
INSIDE99 • 06/01/24 01:03 AM ET
Having gone through all of this before, I have come to the conclusion
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 02:54 PM ET
There is no need for anyone else to sue the ACC
HokieAl • 05/31/24 01:34 PM ET
No, it's not the interest in leaving, it's the landing spots if they do. **
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 02:55 PM ET
Agree, wait to see what happens with the FSU and Clemson lawsuits.**
wwhokie1 • 05/31/24 01:55 PM ET
sorry, I don't understand what you are saying no way to.**
Stech • 05/31/24 12:13 PM ET
We all assume they will have a landing spot, but just like everyone
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 11:37 AM ET
ND has an open invitation to the B1X.
EDGEMAN • 05/31/24 11:51 AM ET
They have an open invite to any conference - always have, **
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 11:56 AM ET
You aren't completely wrong. An ACC with FSU and Clemson would definitely
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 10:27 AM ET
WVU is a B12 type team through and through. All that is lacking is
VTCALS72 • 05/31/24 08:10 PM ET
I think they are more of an SEC type than B12, but they fit just fine.
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 09:38 PM ET
ACC was a step ahead when they expanded with Miami and VT. But the
wwhokie1 • 05/31/24 02:00 PM ET
How much you willing to bet that FSU and Clem dont end up in SEC/B1G?**
133193Hokie • 05/31/24 10:27 AM ET