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it's possible that it strengthens their position, especially if Apple or

Amazon are the ones unwilling to pony up the money. Are they threatening to leave to weaken the PAC's negotiations? I see it from the other side of the coin. It could very well be a negotiation strategy.
Posted: 06/05/2023 at 01:04 PM ET
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COLORADO AND ARIZONA WILL MOVE TO THE BIG 12, NEW REPORT CLAIMS**
cvillehokie92 06/05/23 11:12 AM ET
Unconfirmed report: CU to announce move to XII this week (early as 2024-25)
hokiehead 06/07/23 12:52 PM ET
Certainly feels that way**
Maroon Baboon 06/07/23 07:34 PM ET
Do all Big12 members get a tin foil hat when they join?**
ren_hoek 06/06/23 03:31 PM ET
The next time Swaim gets anything right will be the first time**
ren_hoek 06/06/23 03:29 PM ET
B12 keeps throwing mud against the wall in public. Sooner or later
Lakeridgehokie 06/06/23 11:08 AM ET
"No word on the #Utes and #SunDevils,
Old Line Hokie 06/05/23 02:37 PM ET
Beggars
DrHokie 06/06/23 02:45 PM ET
"Radio host Greg Swaim" sounds like a BigXII homer.
Maroon Baboon 06/05/23 03:49 PM ET
Oklahoma State Alumnus. So sure.**
HOO86 06/05/23 11:13 PM ET
Big 12 replaced Texas and Oklahoma...
Old Line Hokie 06/05/23 06:49 PM ET
You know Nebraska is just chomping at the bit to move to the B12.
EDGEMAN 06/06/23 06:29 AM ET
Yeah, I'm sure Nebraska is trying to get out of the big 10 while everybody
wwhokie1 06/06/23 03:22 PM ET
They make good money as an afterthought where there are now.
HOO86 06/06/23 11:15 AM ET
Graduate of Oklahoma State
WBGV 06/05/23 04:14 PM ET
Exactly all these sites are big 12 guys
Mercury 06/05/23 05:56 PM ET
I don’t believe that there is a satisfactory linear TV deal to be had at
WBGV 06/05/23 02:23 PM ET
The PAC12 can get a deal tomorrow at American Athletic Conference rates.**
HOO86 06/05/23 11:20 PM ET
How much of that money is Texas/Oklahoma exit fee? How much of that money
Stech 06/05/23 04:07 PM ET
On a different subject,
WBGV 06/05/23 05:51 PM ET
Maybe Deion has told the existing BOG to enter the portal **
OrlandoHokie 06/05/23 09:16 PM ET
Deion and the portal - 79 of 85 scholarship players transfer out - brutal.
WBGV 06/06/23 09:06 AM ET
College education and college football parted ways years ago**
wwhokie1 06/06/23 03:25 PM ET
I don’t think any this year.
WBGV 06/05/23 04:49 PM ET
Not surprisingly, the Big 12 is handling comms and PR much better than the
RoswellGAHokie 06/05/23 02:08 PM ET
How is any of that “handling it much better”?
marcbvtgm 06/06/23 10:49 AM ET
PAC12 AD's and Presidents have been consistently denying the rumors
mrcaniac 06/05/23 07:15 PM ET
Big 12 PR
HouClone 06/06/23 08:51 AM ET
You just have to consider.....
2hhoop3 06/05/23 08:43 PM ET
If you are into carnival barkers then the Big 12 is gonna be your jam
Vippie1 06/05/23 05:04 PM ET
No ACC school would leave for the big 12
SpeakToDamien 06/05/23 03:10 PM ET
Pitt would. **
Big12 guy 06/05/23 06:01 PM ET
You’re confusing “most likely ACC school to end up in Big XII”
hokieZ71 06/05/23 06:22 PM ET
If you are going to .......
2hhoop3 06/05/23 06:06 PM ET
The problem with........
2hhoop3 06/05/23 02:21 PM ET
It's definitely a slippery slope that can make you look dumb in the end.**
Stech 06/05/23 03:57 PM ET
Well if it is in ALL CAPS
Vippie1 06/05/23 01:36 PM ET
"Nothing becomes official until the #Pac12 gets their TV deal finalized,"
Stech 06/05/23 11:57 AM ET
The PAC cannot make a contract until their membership stabilizes.
33laszlo99 06/05/23 03:44 PM ET
They are in trouble, they were in trouble years ago because Larry Scott ran
Stech 06/05/23 04:11 PM ET
I've been hearing the Pac12 deal is $20M per school
Millpoint 06/05/23 02:32 PM ET
ESPN is offering $120 million per year for the Saturday 10 pm games.
HOO86 06/05/23 11:31 PM ET
Yeas, but the news really cripples P12 negotiation power for a good deal. **
Maroon Effect 06/05/23 12:38 PM ET
Someone is poisoning the well
obguthr 06/05/23 03:50 PM ET
exactly. Every one of these rumors weakens the P12 position
HokieAl 06/05/23 12:59 PM ET
it's possible that it strengthens their position, especially if Apple or
Big12 guy 06/05/23 01:04 PM ET
but no GOR for PAC. That increases risk for media partners
HokieAl 06/05/23 01:21 PM ET
Tough spot may be too generous
obguthr 06/05/23 03:59 PM ET
UW and UO might as well sign a short term Pac-12 GOR at the point.
Maroon Baboon 06/06/23 01:35 PM ET
It is. But it's GOR or bust no matter where the money lands. **
Big12 guy 06/05/23 01:37 PM ET
I agree with this, and as we dont know what is being discussed
Big12 guy 06/05/23 12:05 PM ET
Pac teams won't leave for the Big 12 until they see the new media contract.
tarheelblue 06/05/23 11:18 AM ET
Hope George K. is able to show this deal by July 1, 2024**
HouClone 06/05/23 01:50 PM ET
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner......
2hhoop3 06/05/23 01:50 PM ET
Both leagues are down graded.
HOO86 06/06/23 12:11 AM ET
West Virginia / Cincinnati
HouClone 06/06/23 08:43 AM ET
Proximity more than anything else, along with existing Rivals
HOO86 06/06/23 10:53 PM ET
They have been mentioned......
2hhoop3 06/06/23 10:34 AM ET
West Virginia has no interest in joining the ACC
Millpoint 06/06/23 03:27 PM ET
The Best Teams in the Big XII have already made plans to leave.
HOO86 06/07/23 01:06 AM ET
It's all a moot point anyway
Millpoint 06/07/23 03:33 PM ET
Unless you are......
2hhoop3 06/06/23 03:38 PM ET
Why would anybody enter into a contract with the Pac 12, given this news?**
hokieZ71 06/05/23 12:12 PM ET