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My position on UVA to the P2 has always been this:

I'm not saying they won't eventually go P2, but I can say with 100% certainty they're not going while VT gets left behind. The nightmare scenario for everyone on this board, and what you see posted most often, whether it's presented as opinion or fact, is some variation of, "UVA is a way more valuable brand to the SEC and the Big 10 than VT, and they're going to get an invite to one or the other, while VT likely won't." This is an absolutely laughable statement to anyone with a brain, because it flies directly in the face of any and all available evidence and history regarding both UVA as an institution and its culture, and the factors that are driving the current wave of conference realignment. I always say that if you see someone seriously proffering the notion that UVA will go P2 to the exclusion of VT, you can just assume they have zero idea what they're talking about when it comes to conference realignment and ignore whatever they have to say on the topic. It doesn't surprise me that someone like Greg Flugaur, who was astute enough once to predict something correctly about conference realignment, but is now obviously just making things up so people will watch his monetized 2.5 hour long YouTube videos that contain around 3 minutes of actual content, would opine that UVA is going to the SEC. He's from Minnesota. He knows absolutely nothing about UVA, or Virginia Tech, or the athletics programs at either, or the size, makeup, and institutional culture of either institution. He's like the ESPN and NYT/The Athletic pencil necks who just look at UVA and say, "oh, they don't have a "state" or a "tech" after "Virginia" in their institutional title, that means they're the big flagship school in Virginia, just like Florida, or Tennessee, or Alabama, or Georgia, and that means they're going P2." Which couldn't be farther from reality. It insults the intelligence for anyone with any knowledge and insight.
Posted: 06/30/2025 at 04:35 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Flugar reporting SEC is moving in on inviting UVA, Flugar is saying this
Stech 06/29/25 08:14 AM ET
He knows about the same as anyone else. Little to nothing.**
reestuart 07/01/25 08:31 AM ET
ESPN people are worth listening to, it depends on his sources.**
Stech 07/01/25 10:56 AM ET
No real info is getting out unless the conference commissioners are leaking
reestuart 07/01/25 11:09 AM ET
Breaking - Flugaur reports the Easter Bunny is real and will be-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/30/25 11:49 AM ET
lol. He would be better than what the ACC has now.**
ancient alien 2018 06/30/25 08:53 PM ET
Maybe I'm missing something, but i see no way in hell that
Big12 guy 06/30/25 12:59 PM ET
Preach!!! Don't get it either, at all. SEC smarter than that**
cvillehokie92 07/01/25 02:24 PM ET
Fluger is the journalistic equivalent of this basketball HC:**
ancient alien 2018 06/30/25 08:58 PM ET
My position on UVA to the P2 has always been this:
Baltimore_Hokie 06/30/25 04:35 PM ET
I hear you and don't disagree if
VTCALS72 07/01/25 07:12 AM ET
3 money sports, only one to my knowledge? **
cvillehokie92 07/01/25 02:26 PM ET
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if that opinion-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/01/25 11:44 AM ET
But at the same time this is denying the reality
wahoo2023 07/02/25 10:39 AM ET
OK, whatever you say. I'm not arguing with you about anything you-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/02/25 03:10 PM ET
You write a book.....
2hhoop3 07/02/25 10:49 AM ET
I’m not arguing it will be
wahoo2023 07/02/25 11:07 AM ET
AND if you can see that
wahoo2023 07/02/25 11:08 AM ET
We'll see what happens....
2hhoop3 07/02/25 11:41 AM ET
that is a kind of a simplistic take
VTCALS72 07/01/25 02:16 PM ET
My entire point was that UVA is not going P2 while VT gets left out.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/01/25 04:12 PM ET
Except if the decision is not entirely football based.
wahoo2023 07/02/25 11:25 AM ET
I respect your opinion, but it is not in alignment with anything that has-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/02/25 12:52 PM ET
disagree
cvillehokie92 07/01/25 02:29 PM ET
They may not because no one other than ND adds to the pie for football**
VTCALS72 07/01/25 03:57 PM ET
You make the assumption that the people making these decisions have brains.
Maroon Baboon 06/30/25 11:16 PM ET
I have no idea what the Big 10 is doing, honestly, but I'm fairly certain-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/01/25 11:46 AM ET
They say the same thing about
Big12 guy 06/30/25 04:46 PM ET
I guess, to an outsider, the best I can explain it is this:
Baltimore_Hokie 06/30/25 04:53 PM ET
"some jug hooter from Minnesota" 💀**
Maroon Baboon 06/30/25 11:17 PM ET
This is why national branding is so important
1947Sunbowl 06/30/25 06:49 PM ET
huh? Where is UVA, just curious**
cvillehokie92 07/01/25 02:31 PM ET
UVA definitely plays the PR game better than VT, IMO.
Baltimore_Hokie 06/30/25 07:09 PM ET
If you believe football value is the driving force for expansion, then
manassashoo 06/30/25 01:13 PM ET
what value then?**
cvillehokie92 07/01/25 02:32 PM ET
You would have to ask the BIG, the SEC and the networks.**
manassashoo 07/01/25 05:38 PM ET
agree 100 %
MrFantastic! 06/30/25 02:35 PM ET
Fox is the primary owner of BIG content because they
Big12 guy 06/30/25 02:41 PM ET
I agree that ND is the only one left that can increase the payouts
Big12 guy 06/30/25 01:40 PM ET
It would be unc request possibly.**
MrFantastic! 06/30/25 01:04 PM ET
maybe, and I can see UNC getting an invite to either P2, but
Big12 guy 06/30/25 01:16 PM ET
Things to watch
MrFantastic! 06/30/25 10:25 AM ET
How the uneven distribution
Big12 guy 06/30/25 11:39 AM ET
Thank you sir. Many of this board's readers needed a good LOL
ancient alien 2018 06/30/25 02:18 AM ET
UVA doesn't have a President right now.
HOO86 06/29/25 06:40 PM ET
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They may as well wait until after November, or they're just going to be-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/30/25 11:47 AM ET
I’m intrigued. Care to ellaborate?**
VT ChemE 1986 06/30/25 02:50 PM ET
It's all in the post. The UVA BOV serves at the pleasure of the governor.
Baltimore_Hokie 06/30/25 04:22 PM ET
Nothing new here. That happens every 4 years in VA**
VTCALS72 07/01/25 07:19 AM ET
You apparently are not aware of the circumstances re: the current prez-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/01/25 11:42 AM ET
Actually I am the point was for other reasons, or even preceived reasons,
VTCALS72 07/01/25 02:19 PM ET
I think the circumstances are a bit different - it's def. extraordinary-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/01/25 03:57 PM ET
It’ll be interesting 2 watch who th next UVA president is, Harvard orUNC or
Stech 06/29/25 07:55 PM ET
They won't be coming from Mississippi State or LSU
Sunsetunderground 06/30/25 01:41 PM ET
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the hire
Pylons 06/29/25 11:56 PM ET
I say UVA will hire someone whom thinks....Both!
MrFantastic! 06/30/25 10:26 AM ET
I'm NOT sure about Flugar's credibility.
RandomAsianGuy 06/29/25 01:21 PM ET
Yeah I understand, even w/ USC & UCLA there was chatter before it happened
Stech 06/29/25 02:35 PM ET
His credibility.....
2hhoop3 06/29/25 02:16 PM ET
I don’t disagree. He is not even entertaining. **
RandomAsianGuy 06/30/25 12:39 PM ET
So UVA is going to drop all their non revenues so it can join
Sunsetunderground 06/29/25 02:05 PM ET
sorry for me being dumb, why would the Hoos have to drop those other sports**
MrBayAreaHokie 06/29/25 11:25 PM ET
With the increase in allowed scholarship, Title IX will contribute to the
manassashoo 06/30/25 12:25 PM ET
Lax, soccer, and wrestling would have to find a home or go independent.
manassashoo 06/29/25 03:11 PM ET
"If" the SEC did invite UVA & UNC...
Old Line Hokie 06/29/25 07:51 PM ET
It’s only three sports, I thought is much more than that, interesting.**
Stech 06/29/25 05:15 PM ET
Men & women's soccer and LAX, and then there's squash which is endowed
manassashoo 06/29/25 05:46 PM ET
SEC has women's soccer.
HOO86 06/29/25 11:39 PM ET
Fluguar is a .......
2hhoop3 06/29/25 12:28 PM ET
OMGoodness!! ROTFL Hoop, that is POTM!!!! Thanks!!**
ancient alien 2018 06/30/25 02:20 AM ET
Yeah, that’s why I was ducking while posting it. However, there are others
Stech 06/29/25 01:11 PM ET
Do you think state will stop it without vt
1947Sunbowl 06/29/25 06:22 PM ET
I think once unequal sharing is across the P4, it may not happen at all, I
Stech 06/29/25 07:47 PM ET
RJHokie 06/29/25 08:05 PM ET
It’s “Mark” Warner.
RJHokie 06/29/25 07:54 PM ET
John, John started the monthly lunch to handle BRAC, it moved to Schools in
Stech 06/29/25 08:01 PM ET
BRAC - Military Base Realignment and Closure?
RJHokie 06/29/25 08:06 PM ET
Base Realignment And Closure a process authorized by Congress for the U.S.
Stech 06/29/25 08:20 PM ET
Yeah, I know his history on that.
RJHokie 06/29/25 08:25 PM ET
My point is different than the one you are making, my point is the lunch
Stech 06/29/25 08:45 PM ET
I understand.......
2hhoop3 06/29/25 01:28 PM ET
I listened to the live show so you don't have to 😆. Here is a summary.
Maroon Baboon 06/29/25 09:37 AM ET
So the SEC isn’t looking to offer UVa, but rather
Marooned 06/29/25 04:29 PM ET
Thanks for the summary. I found Flugs unwatchable.**
RandomAsianGuy 06/29/25 01:16 PM ET
Does this mean the SEC already has UNC in fold and doesn't want the BIG in
manassashoo 06/29/25 12:21 PM ET
My other question is why would schools leave now with the penalties so high
Stech 06/29/25 02:42 PM ET
Agree, he is reaching on Ryan,**
manassashoo 06/29/25 02:59 PM ET
Thanks! I struggle with his cadence & th length of his Podcast are too long
Stech 06/29/25 11:45 AM ET
Kind of like Joe Rogan with no interesting guests or pot**
VPI_1998 07/01/25 04:51 AM ET
Here is a picture of his tweet **
Stech 06/29/25 08:21 AM ET