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Hardcore_Hokie
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Hardcore_Hokie

Which four Big12 schools are better programs / brands than…

Miami, VT, UNC, Louisville? (Even after removing our 2 top programs) ?
Posted: 07/15/2024 at 09:43 AM ET
(In response to this post by CrystalCoveHokie)

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This was the week the dam was supposed to begin breaking per Josh Pate.
Maroon Baboon • 07/14/24 07:04 PM ET
No it wasn’t. That’s not an accurate statement.
hokieZ71 • 07/15/24 08:26 AM ET
I'm not going to go crazy finding the clip or post, but I recall it being a
Maroon Baboon • 07/15/24 04:52 PM ET
Pate has really been.......
2hhoop3 • 07/15/24 10:12 AM ET
Completely disagree. Have you watched Josh Pate? He doesn’t do that.
hokieZ71 • 07/15/24 11:20 AM ET
I like Josh Pate. That's why I was surprised he went down the path of
Maroon Baboon • 07/15/24 04:57 PM ET
I agree too. But it’s also why I think he might actually know something**
hokieZ71 • 07/15/24 05:21 PM ET
Greg Flugaur reminds me of one of Bill Swerski's Superfans from SNL back
VPI_1998 • 07/15/24 03:02 PM ET
He needs some sunglasses, a ‘stache and a draft beer.**
hokieZ71 • 07/16/24 01:39 PM ET
I have watched him plenty of times......
2hhoop3 • 07/15/24 11:36 AM ET
Exactly, this one time. Which makes me think there’s something to it.
hokieZ71 • 07/15/24 12:04 PM ET
The wild speculation......
2hhoop3 • 07/15/24 12:12 PM ET
It didn’t seem like he heard something vague.
hokieZ71 • 07/15/24 12:21 PM ET
He implied.......
2hhoop3 • 07/15/24 12:37 PM ET
He said “it might very well be in July”; Also said “It’ll happen by Aug15”
hokieZ71 • 07/15/24 12:42 PM ET
I'm not asking you to.......
2hhoop3 • 07/15/24 12:51 PM ET
With that definition there hasn’t been “real information” since Calford/SMU
hokieZ71 • 07/15/24 01:02 PM ET
I didn't say anything.......
2hhoop3 • 07/15/24 01:46 PM ET
Maybe the ACC v. Clemson court stalemate
Victor Tango • 07/15/24 08:33 AM ET
Legit question, who are the best football brands in the B12? And…
Hardcore_Hokie • 07/14/24 10:18 PM ET
No one is saying that the B12 is a better conference than the ACC when
Big12 guy • 07/15/24 06:07 PM ET
So where are Clemson ad FSU going if not SEC and B1G?
Hardcore_Hokie • 07/16/24 12:06 AM ET
Thanks for responding. Truth is, i don't really care who "wins". We
Big12 guy • 07/16/24 07:08 AM ET
I personally think B12 and their media partners may be in a pinch.
winston-hoo • 07/15/24 11:05 AM ET
Can someone please help me understand all the ACC! ACC! ACC! stuff-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/15/24 09:50 AM ET
I have been telling you but you won't listen so trying again
VTCALS72 • 07/15/24 01:05 PM ET
The ACC losing FSU/CLEM < Big12, let alone ACC losing (4) teams.**
133193Hokie • 07/15/24 03:24 PM ET
You'll give yourself arthritis arguing with this guy about this...
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/15/24 03:40 PM ET
Disagree**
VTCALS72 • 07/15/24 03:27 PM ET
Sure, you've "been telling me," but what you've been telling me-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/15/24 03:17 PM ET
Not going into it all but I also don't believe the ACC will add any more
VTCALS72 • 07/15/24 03:33 PM ET
Have you ever been to a game west of the Mississippi? It's
Big12 guy • 07/15/24 07:07 PM ET
No and that is the point. West of the Mississippi just as well be on the
VTCALS72 • 07/15/24 08:14 PM ET
My friends, fierce fans of KU, K-State, and Iowa State say the exact same
Big12 guy • 07/15/24 09:11 PM ET
I respect your opinion and perspective.
Hardcore_Hokie • 07/16/24 06:23 PM ET
The markets on the East coast are larger, no doubt. The difference is
Big12 guy • 07/16/24 06:59 PM ET
Yes the ACC has some bottoms-feeders and that is our only real problem.
Hardcore_Hokie • 07/16/24 07:19 PM ET
B12 doesn't compare to FSU, Clemson, ND, and even Miami. hands
Big12 guy • 07/16/24 07:26 PM ET
Yet no one has taken our Top-4 away so…?
Hardcore_Hokie • 07/16/24 07:47 PM ET
Your first paragraph is exactly what I have been saying
VTCALS72 • 07/15/24 11:26 PM ET
Your last 4 words is where I disagree with you completely. I'd rather
Big12 guy • 07/16/24 07:22 AM ET
time to end this thread so here is mine and you get the last word
VTCALS72 • 07/16/24 07:49 AM ET
Then we end this thread more in agreement, than disagreement. **
Big12 guy • 07/16/24 07:52 AM ET
The truth is both.......
2hhoop3 • 07/15/24 09:49 PM ET
A very good point. Most that I talk too out here in flyover, do not
Big12 guy • 07/16/24 07:30 AM ET
So now playing Liberty and JMU is better than playing the Big 12?
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/15/24 03:38 PM ET
Hokie fans want what is best for the Hokies
SpeakToDamien • 07/15/24 12:40 PM ET
If only the ACC admin cared about the viability of its big football brands-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/15/24 03:30 PM ET
Ok. Like whatever you like.**
SpeakToDamien • 07/15/24 04:23 PM ET
unequal distributions
VTCALS72 • 07/15/24 01:18 PM ET
Not sure how you come to that conclusion…
CrystalCoveHokie • 07/15/24 09:37 AM ET
Which four Big12 schools are better programs / brands than… ◄
Hardcore_Hokie • 07/15/24 09:43 AM ET
Almost all of them are on par with the ACC schools you listed, except
Big12 guy • 07/15/24 07:11 PM ET
The B12 thinks FSU and Clem are coming but they aren’t.
Hardcore_Hokie • 07/15/24 11:48 PM ET
Why in the world is WVU not in the ACC to begin with? Cincy has been there
Big12 guy • 07/16/24 07:12 AM ET
Also the B12 has lost Texas, Oklahoma,Texas A&M, Nebraska, Mizzou, Colorado
Hardcore_Hokie • 07/15/24 11:56 PM ET
Laugh all you want, but those teams with the addition of 3 G5's and
Big12 guy • 07/16/24 12:14 PM ET
ACC contract was signed 8 years ago, B12’s last year.
Hardcore_Hokie • 07/16/24 03:26 PM ET
Wouldn't surprise me either, but SMU and CalFord wil not
Big12 guy • 07/16/24 03:51 PM ET
At this point I highly doubt Clemson leaves. And FSU is gonna…
Hardcore_Hokie • 07/16/24 05:32 PM ET
The question is not......
2hhoop3 • 07/16/24 12:46 PM ET
Yes. I was surprised by the amount to be honest. The reason they got the
Big12 guy • 07/16/24 12:54 PM ET
One thing everybody......
2hhoop3 • 07/16/24 01:01 PM ET
Do you think UM, VT, UNC, and Lville are really going-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/15/24 10:14 AM ET
If those 4 don't get a P2 offer, the ACC with them in it is way better than
VTCALS72 • 07/15/24 01:22 PM ET
I don't think that's in any way a given.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/15/24 02:57 PM ET
It is more about
VTCALS72 • 07/15/24 03:22 PM ET
The PAC-12 sure got away from their "Wakes and BCs."
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/15/24 03:36 PM ET
I'm not sure I would have included the Big East Football Conference in the
VTHokie2000 • 07/15/24 12:29 PM ET
Had that not happened, the Big East Football Conference-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/15/24 03:55 PM ET
BYU, Utah, TCU, OK St, K St**
CrystalCoveHokie • 07/15/24 10:11 AM ET
Then the ACC should poach all five of them now**
Hardcore_Hokie • 07/15/24 10:27 AM ET
Yeah, I'm sure all five would sign up immediately to join a conference-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/15/24 11:58 AM ET
Last I looked, these teams were making more money in Big12…..
CrystalCoveHokie • 07/15/24 10:35 AM ET
ACC has the much better brands.
HouClone • 07/15/24 09:09 AM ET
You must be living in an alternate reality-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/15/24 10:18 AM ET
My take
obguthr • 07/15/24 09:05 AM ET
On other hand….AZ, AZSt, UCF and Houston have larger enrollments…
CrystalCoveHokie • 07/15/24 11:08 AM ET
What does that mean? What is it worth?
VTCALS72 • 07/15/24 03:35 PM ET
Counter point to living alumni. Not sure it means anything in a vacuum**
CrystalCoveHokie • 07/15/24 03:48 PM ET
I’m not sure using teams trying to leave. . .
dayooper • 07/15/24 11:08 AM ET
They didn't outwit the PAC. The PAC, like the ACC turned their
Big12 guy • 07/15/24 07:22 PM ET
I think BYU is the top brand in the XII. Not by much though.
Maroon Baboon • 07/15/24 08:10 AM ET
I can assure you WVU wants no part of the ACC**
Millpoint • 07/15/24 07:15 AM ET
It is one thing to make........
2hhoop3 • 07/15/24 09:39 AM ET
The value of the ACC will be less after the major players are gone
Millpoint • 07/15/24 12:11 PM ET
Why would ACC schools want to join the Big XII instead of forming a new
VTHokie2000 • 07/15/24 12:44 PM ET
Maybe they will?**
Millpoint • 07/16/24 03:41 PM ET
Maybe that will be how it plays out**
Millpoint • 07/15/24 08:33 PM ET
Thanks for the reply.......
2hhoop3 • 07/15/24 12:20 PM ET
They’ve wanted in the ACC for many decades and would jump asap**
Hardcore_Hokie • 07/15/24 09:31 AM ET
To have a seat on a sinking ship
Millpoint • 07/15/24 12:13 PM ET
Yeah, cutting those travel costs in half just sucks...lol**
EDGEMAN • 07/15/24 08:24 AM ET
Playing in an ACC without Clemson, FSU, UNC and possibly others
Millpoint • 07/15/24 12:06 PM ET
Big 12 should be thankful for the incompetence of the Pac 12
VaTechHokiesACC • 07/15/24 04:02 AM ET
They may soon be thankful about ACC incompetence - we will see**
133193Hokie • 07/15/24 08:54 AM ET
It proves what happens when one is arrogant **
Millpoint • 07/15/24 07:09 AM ET
Do I detect a touch of hubris in that statement? Ironical…**
hokieZ71 • 07/15/24 08:29 AM ET
The ACC beats the Big 12 too in private schools, 7 to 3.
HouClone • 07/14/24 11:00 PM ET
Pate Actually Gave Himself 9 Weeks Which Was the Time Until Football Season
WarHog38 • 07/14/24 07:47 PM ET
In one of his shows or tweets, he mentioned this week.
Maroon Baboon • 07/15/24 07:56 AM ET