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Did I say they that was the master plan? No.

Instead of arguing a conclusion I never proffered, maybe you should go back and read what I wrote again, and think about it for a moment. What I wrote was that FSU and Clemson will 100% leave for the Big 12 if the B1G or SEC are not an option, and they will stand to make more money if they do so. FSU and Clemson's gripe is that the ACC is lacking in football brands, which causes a dearth in media rights value, which means their brand value and visibility is denigrated by ACC membership, no matter how good either program is. If neither the SEC and B1G are an option for FSU/Clemson, then there are more football brands in the Big 12 than there are in the ACC. FSU or Clemson football vs. WVU, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Utah, Colorado, Arizona State, BYU, Texas Tech, TCU, and on and on and on and on are ALL more enticing match ups than FSU vs. Boston College, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Duke, or UVA. If you cannot understand this, I don't know how to break it down any simpler for you. ** Edited by Baltimore_Hokie at 7/10/2024, 2:39:35 PM
Posted: 07/10/2024 at 02:38 PM ET
(In response to this post by wwhokie1)

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This board needs a new top post - so some humor**
MrBayAreaHokie • 07/09/24 08:48 PM ET
I'm not sure why anyone would consider this comedy.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 10:19 AM ET
Even a weakened ACC is a better option for VT**
VTCALS72 • 07/10/24 03:09 PM ET
"Even a weakened Pac-12 is a better option for Oregon State!!!"
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 03:41 PM ET
Doubtful. The ACC has the much stronger court case
SpeakToDamien • 07/10/24 12:15 PM ET
i tend to agree with you...
MrBayAreaHokie • 07/10/24 05:57 PM ET
You're entitled to your opinion. I think the reality, however-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 02:11 PM ET
Carolina business court is a rocket docket
SpeakToDamien • 07/10/24 09:04 PM ET
We will see
SpeakToDamien • 07/10/24 06:49 PM ET
Worth just watching......
2hhoop3 • 07/10/24 06:55 PM ET
Agree that the purpose of the lawsuits are simply to find out how much it
wwhokie1 • 07/10/24 03:18 PM ET
FSU is gone as soon as they can. Not so sure about Clemson
VTCALS72 • 07/10/24 03:11 PM ET
I'm not sure how staying in the ACC and playing football vs.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 03:27 PM ET
the problem is
daveinop • 07/10/24 07:11 PM ET
Maybe I'm not being clear, so let me try and make explicit what I'm saying-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/11/24 10:07 AM ET
You need to look harder at the Big 12 schools
VTCALS72 • 07/10/24 04:29 PM ET
Not to dogpile on you, but, since you're so adamant-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 04:59 PM ET
What I am so adamant about is your take that every place is better than
VTCALS72 • 07/11/24 01:15 PM ET
It's not so much private vs. public-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/11/24 01:32 PM ET
We have no idea who the ACC may or may not add so not sure why you
VTCALS72 • 07/11/24 06:55 PM ET
Let's get something straight...
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/12/24 10:11 AM ET
If GT, NC State, UVA and VT went to the B12, that would be better option.
wwhokie1 • 07/10/24 03:21 PM ET
Disagree. In the end the further the Big 12 gets from their home base
VTCALS72 • 07/10/24 03:24 PM ET
Hell, BC is weaker at home, much further away.**
Atlee Hokie • 07/10/24 10:57 PM ET
Fsu and Clemson are not trying to leave the ACC so they can join the Big 12
wwhokie1 • 07/10/24 11:43 AM ET
Did I say they that was the master plan? No. ◄
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 02:38 PM ET
So FSU and CU are leaving because the ACC has no football "brands"?
VTCALS72 • 07/10/24 03:13 PM ET
"None" is just too un-serious to dignify with a response.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 03:19 PM ET
Your reply states "FSU and Clemson will 100% leave for the Big 12 if the
wwhokie1 • 07/10/24 03:12 PM ET
If they cannot make P2 money, then the next thing they'll look to do is-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 03:25 PM ET
I agree that they are leaving. But they are not going to the big 12.
wwhokie1 • 07/10/24 05:21 PM ET
If you think the ACC is going to survive to the next contract renegotiation
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 05:33 PM ET
Actually, I started out with they are leaving. So, no, I don't think
wwhokie1 • 07/10/24 06:15 PM ET
You're entitled to your opinion, but-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/11/24 10:45 AM ET
Both of those amounts have yet to be determined.
hokieball • 07/10/24 01:32 PM ET
But we do know that FSU and Clemson are leaving so they can make SEC/BIG
wwhokie1 • 07/10/24 03:01 PM ET
Psst... you seem to have forgotten that Texas and OU just left Big 12...LOL
ombandit • 07/10/24 11:40 AM ET
Psst... you seem to have forgotten that-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 02:42 PM ET
If the B12 is the best option, I am not sure Clemson would leave and
VTCALS72 • 07/10/24 03:16 PM ET
If the Big12 were willing to establish a distribution system that is
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/10/24 10:57 AM ET
Why would anyone want to "combine forces" with the ACC-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 11:19 AM ET
Leaving out Wake
VTCALS72 • 07/10/24 03:21 PM ET
Not even close. Easr Coast bias.**
Big12 guy • 07/11/24 07:55 AM ET
East Coast Bias puts donations and fannies in the seats
VTCALS72 • 07/11/24 08:33 AM ET
Do better in what?**
Big12 guy • 07/11/24 09:43 AM ET
You may as well argue with a fence post; that guy is delusional.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/11/24 01:04 PM ET
Na, he has a fans perspective and
Big12 guy • 07/11/24 04:28 PM ET
You may not agree.....
2hhoop3 • 07/11/24 01:07 PM ET
Ah, another Wake Forest/Boston College sympathizer heard from.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/11/24 01:10 PM ET
Cold hard facts......
2hhoop3 • 07/11/24 01:15 PM ET
Say what you want - I post objective facts and logical conclusions-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/11/24 01:34 PM ET
Does objective facts and logical conclusions........
2hhoop3 • 07/11/24 01:47 PM ET
FSU and Clemson are suing the conference. They are leaving.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/11/24 04:15 PM ET
Never said they......
2hhoop3 • 07/11/24 04:37 PM ET
Obviously, you're not reading what I write. And, it's easy to tell because-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/11/24 04:48 PM ET
I read exactly.....
2hhoop3 • 07/11/24 04:57 PM ET
I've answered everything you've asked ten times already.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/11/24 05:01 PM ET
Mute as you wish......
2hhoop3 • 07/11/24 05:16 PM ET
Thanks for yet another deranged boomer reply to my posts.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/12/24 09:56 AM ET
Thought you were...
2hhoop3 • 07/12/24 10:10 AM ET
You are muted, but I guess mute doesn't do what I thought it did.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/12/24 10:15 AM ET
Another.....
2hhoop3 • 07/12/24 10:18 AM ET
I'm not sure where your gushing affinity for WF, BC, Duke, and SU-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 03:39 PM ET
You can't make me see that your blaming them is right
VTCALS72 • 07/10/24 04:25 PM ET
Cuse & BC are worse than "next to nothing". They are nothing.**
Atlee Hokie • 07/10/24 10:34 PM ET
No offense, and all due respect and deference intended, but your positions-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 04:51 PM ET
Here are the facts, playing non blueblood teams from Texas, Ok and upward
VTCALS72 • 07/10/24 05:34 PM ET
You're right. When FSU and Clemson jump ship-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/11/24 10:37 AM ET
Do you really see those Big 12 schools as being that much better?
VTCALS72 • 07/11/24 12:38 PM ET
Obviously, I want VT in the SEC or the B1G-
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/11/24 12:59 PM ET
Syracuse is a private school.
RJHokie • 07/10/24 03:51 PM ET
I stand corrected re: Syracuse. They're private.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 04:12 PM ET
Because we are all in the same boat
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/10/24 11:50 AM ET
Definitely not identical.
Atlee Hokie • 07/10/24 10:39 PM ET
"We" are all, most certainly, NOT in the same boat.
Baltimore_Hokie • 07/10/24 02:28 PM ET
LOL! When they do, I'll have a video of monkeys flying out of my arse
ancient alien 2018 • 07/10/24 12:34 AM ET
What a coincidence. Because that would be today......
VTBoar • 07/10/24 08:58 AM ET
The internet is out of control!! 🤣🤣🤣**
Stech • 07/09/24 11:52 PM ET
All these changes by Friday. How exciting!**
VT ChemE 1986 • 07/09/24 09:44 PM ET
I mean, never say never, but imagine FSU running into the arms of UCF! LOL**
BUGGZY • 07/09/24 09:36 PM ET
May as well say that ND has decided to be a full member of the
Big12 guy • 07/09/24 09:49 PM ET