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Maybe that is the marching orders from the Presidents to whom they report

Maybe some of the ACC Presidents are putting on the breaks and saying, lets continue to be an amateur league with good academics and good athletics. I hope so ** Edited by VictoryTurkey at 6/27/2024, 11:02:42 AM
Posted: 06/27/2024 at 11:02 AM ET
(In response to this post by Baltimore_Hokie)

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SEC & B1G Both Currently Have Things in the Oven
WarHog38 06/26/24 05:16 PM ET
ACC/ESPN contract
INSIDE99 06/27/24 03:41 PM ET
IMO ESPN is waiting until the last moment JIC FSU or Clemson leave.
Truthahn 06/28/24 12:13 PM ET
Maybe ESPNs end game is FSU and Clemson to the SEC and everybody else
VTCALS72 06/26/24 06:44 PM ET
I'll give you a very simple reason why Jim Phillips is a massive failure:
Baltimore_Hokie 06/27/24 10:32 AM ET
Underqualified and too slow, too late to learn on the fly**
Maroon Unit 06/27/24 02:56 PM ET
Maybe it is a reflection of so many small private schools within the ACC.
132863Hokie 06/27/24 01:19 PM ET
Poor Trangs-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/27/24 03:32 PM ET
Is that in Philips or Babcock's job description or is it
VTCALS72 06/27/24 12:46 PM ET
Nobody-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/27/24 01:01 PM ET
I am sure the ESPN contract is preventing him from doing much as opposed
VTinSC 06/27/24 02:45 PM ET
"Everyone acts like the PAC-12 imploding was all George Kliavkoff's fault"
VTCALS72 06/27/24 01:11 PM ET
Nobody at ESPN dictated to Jim Phillips that the ACC had to add Stanford,
Baltimore_Hokie 06/27/24 03:37 PM ET
So nobody at ESPN dictated but Wake and ND did?
VTCALS72 06/27/24 04:09 PM ET
I just don't buy into the idea that these schools were
Big12 guy 06/27/24 04:50 PM ET
That's all well and good I suppose, but the million dollar question-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/28/24 10:53 AM ET
I'll answer that question with a B12 school that is
Big12 guy 06/28/24 11:17 AM ET
I have lots of issues with your takes here-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/28/24 11:53 AM ET
VT being better in the B12 or ACC completely rests on the media deals,
Big12 guy 06/28/24 01:09 PM ET
They already have, I forget the RB name but he went to Washington formerly
VTCALS72 06/28/24 09:37 PM ET
A common error out here in Kansas is
Big12 guy 06/28/24 09:53 PM ET
Ok, got to do this
VTCALS72 06/29/24 07:44 AM ET
Yep**
Big12 guy 06/29/24 07:46 AM ET
John Riggins is the RB you reference.
RJHokie 06/28/24 09:39 PM ET
Nope, not him. Larry Brown maybe?**
VTCALS72 06/29/24 07:48 AM ET
Bingo**
Big12 guy 06/29/24 01:56 PM ET
He began his career with the Jets.
Atlee Hokie 06/28/24 10:49 PM ET
I think you're right........
2hhoop3 06/28/24 10:58 PM ET
Also came back to the Skins with the condition of a no-trade contract. **
RJHokie 06/28/24 11:01 PM ET
Yep......
2hhoop3 06/28/24 11:06 PM ET
His fame and fortune, good or bad, resides with the Skins though.
RJHokie 06/28/24 10:54 PM ET
I'll be glad to toss you a cold can of Lite when/if that day comes.**
Baltimore_Hokie 06/28/24 04:24 PM ET
You're not wrong, but the ACC hired a middling sports admin
HokieNoVA 06/27/24 12:26 PM ET
Agree, wholeheartedly.
Baltimore_Hokie 06/27/24 12:43 PM ET
You may have valid points......
2hhoop3 06/27/24 01:14 PM ET
Whether he's a stalking horse, or not-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/27/24 03:29 PM ET
Interesting that you.......
2hhoop3 06/27/24 03:48 PM ET
I don't care if he was holding the worst hand of cards possible-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/27/24 03:54 PM ET
You are still looking at it like it is a vaccuum and every conference is
VTCALS72 06/29/24 07:59 AM ET
I'm not sure how it's lost on you, or anyone else on here-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/01/24 10:05 AM ET
"Did not have to add" is your opinion, mine is that the addition of those 2
VTCALS72 07/01/24 11:50 AM ET
I think you're missing or misinterpreting a lot of my points-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/01/24 04:17 PM ET
As you have been......
2hhoop3 06/27/24 04:11 PM ET
The ACC didn't NEED to add programs.
Baltimore_Hokie 06/27/24 04:36 PM ET
You're entitled to your opinion.......
2hhoop3 06/27/24 04:51 PM ET
I'm not convinced that the conferences are told who to add,
Big12 guy 06/27/24 01:59 PM ET
You can think as you wish.......
2hhoop3 06/27/24 02:09 PM ET
What about your contention that the B12 just does the bidding of
Big12 guy 06/27/24 02:17 PM ET
The reality.......
2hhoop3 06/27/24 02:26 PM ET
"got propped up" By who, and why? Why wouldn't
Big12 guy 06/27/24 02:30 PM ET
Call it whatever......
2hhoop3 06/27/24 02:47 PM ET
Pretty Naive here, because that is exactly what happened. The b12 got
Big12 guy 06/27/24 02:58 PM ET
You should probably review.......
2hhoop3 06/27/24 03:08 PM ET
I know the timeline perfectly. Even after USCLA announced, the PAC
Big12 guy 06/27/24 03:22 PM ET
Since you know......
2hhoop3 06/27/24 03:38 PM ET
Those are great question, but still do not address who the
Big12 guy 06/27/24 03:57 PM ET
I told you but,.....
2hhoop3 06/27/24 04:47 PM ET
If you want to start another thread about timelines, I have no doubt
Big12 guy 06/27/24 04:54 PM ET
Just Read What 2hhoop3 Said
WarHog38 06/28/24 02:01 AM ET
There are parts of me that suspect that the demise of the PAC was baked in,
Big12 guy 06/28/24 07:31 AM ET
I think......
2hhoop3 06/27/24 05:12 PM ET
Anyone on this board with the ability to use Google and utilize critical-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/28/24 11:29 AM ET
I don't have to......
2hhoop3 06/28/24 12:18 PM ET
Can you point out my "obvious errors?"
Baltimore_Hokie 06/28/24 12:38 PM ET
The two most......
2hhoop3 06/28/24 01:21 PM ET
I really do appreciate the back and forth-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/28/24 03:46 PM ET
I would suggest.......
2hhoop3 06/28/24 03:56 PM ET
That's not what you said, and even if it was-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/28/24 04:01 PM ET
I know......
2hhoop3 06/28/24 04:14 PM ET
OK.
Baltimore_Hokie 06/28/24 04:16 PM ET
Plausible deniability? Perfect. Keep on telling me, it's
Big12 guy 06/27/24 05:24 PM ET
Maybe that is the marching orders from the Presidents to whom they report
VictoryTurkey 06/27/24 11:02 AM ET
That's not a realistic take, at all. Any ACC member that wants to be in-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/27/24 11:13 AM ET
I have enough proof at this point to say Phillips has been not good
HokieAl 06/27/24 08:30 AM ET
I think you would be better to point to UNC rather than the ACC
VTCALS72 06/27/24 12:59 PM ET
This is an interesting perspective
dayooper 06/27/24 08:22 AM ET
Nice to see that there is now a website: venu.com
WBGV 06/27/24 12:40 PM ET
Interesting........
2hhoop3 06/27/24 10:25 AM ET
sounds like a nice legal question
daveinop 06/27/24 10:11 AM ET
Did things just.........
2hhoop3 06/27/24 10:42 AM ET
It would be a reason for the media crooks to stay out of the realignment
33laszlo99 06/27/24 02:01 PM ET
ACC is Definitely Fighting Tooth & Nail For Survival in Those Courts
WarHog38 06/26/24 07:26 PM ET
Next comes Diversity and Inclusion **
VPI 1924 06/26/24 06:30 PM ET
Diversity is why Clemson will not go to the SEC...
mjfhokie 06/26/24 08:56 PM ET
SEC isn't big enough for two Death Valleys either**
LonghornHokie 06/27/24 04:02 AM ET
Been Trying That For Over 150 Years**
WarHog38 06/26/24 07:44 PM ET