Your last point. EXACTLY. I suspect the VT fans got a bunch of "sweep it
under the rug" platitudes by the "Poppycock" crew, when in fact, anyone with a bit a strategic sense knew that SEC was a much better option as far back as 2011. Here we are, sweating it out, when we could be in the club house, with an extra $20+ million a year. Maryland knew. Rutgers knew. Missouri knew. But the VT peeps couldn't figure it out. It looked like a terrible decision to me back in 2011 and the more that bad elements of the deal come out, it is going to look quite unforgivable.
My guess. They either didn't look it over, or did, and smirked and went along with it anyhow.
** Edited by TDVick at 5/5/2024, 1:36:24 PM
Thread Replies (70)
Anyone else find this guy super annoying?
-- UpstateSCHokie
May 03, 2024 at 06:44 PM ET
UpstateSCHokie
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05/03/24 06:44 PM ET
LOL. He does have glassy eyes in a lot of his videos. **
-- WBGV
May 05, 2024 at 09:39 AM ET
WBGV
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05/05/24 09:39 AM ET
He's also a pothead, peddles delta-9 gummies on his other channel
-- ren_hoek
May 04, 2024 at 09:38 PM ET
ren_hoek
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05/04/24 09:38 PM ET
Yep. He does have a punchable face. ;)**
-- Old Line Hokie
May 04, 2024 at 02:46 PM ET
Old Line Hokie
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05/04/24 02:46 PM ET
he is the absolute worst...jimmy, living in his mom's basement, pretending
-- MrBayAreaHokie
May 04, 2024 at 01:22 PM ET
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05/04/24 01:22 PM ET
Can we agree that the ACC-ESPN deal specifics WERE and ARE being HIDDEN?
-- TDVick
May 04, 2024 at 10:06 AM ET
TDVick
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05/04/24 10:06 AM ET
so, sunshine UCF for a copy of the Big 12 deal; or try
-- daveinop
May 05, 2024 at 08:03 AM ET
daveinop
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05/05/24 08:03 AM ET
Why is it so hard to believe this was just same old, same old for ESPN?
-- VTCALS72
May 04, 2024 at 09:59 PM ET
VTCALS72
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05/04/24 09:59 PM ET
That is the #1 piece of info I want.
-- Atlee Hokie
May 04, 2024 at 04:09 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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05/04/24 04:09 PM ET
Your last point. EXACTLY. I suspect the VT fans got a bunch of "sweep it
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-- TDVick
May 05, 2024 at 01:21 PM ET
TDVick
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05/05/24 01:21 PM ET
What Maryland and Rutgers knew.....
-- 2hhoop3
May 05, 2024 at 02:09 PM ET
2hhoop3
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05/05/24 02:09 PM ET
When all the smoke is cleared, no VT's lawyers did not go over the media
-- VTCALS72
May 04, 2024 at 09:56 PM ET
VTCALS72
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05/04/24 09:56 PM ET
Let's say that everything.....
-- 2hhoop3
May 04, 2024 at 04:28 PM ET
2hhoop3
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05/04/24 04:28 PM ET
It's possible that there is no "glaring flaw" in the media contract. There
-- 33laszlo99
May 04, 2024 at 10:47 PM ET
33laszlo99
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05/04/24 10:47 PM ET
Yeah, that would make no sense **
-- HokiesACC2004
May 04, 2024 at 06:13 PM ET
HokiesACC2004
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05/04/24 06:13 PM ET
They would remain quiet now because if they did just take the word of ...
-- Atlee Hokie
May 04, 2024 at 06:02 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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05/04/24 06:02 PM ET
Now I think you have it right
-- VTCALS72
May 05, 2024 at 07:29 AM ET
VTCALS72
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05/05/24 07:29 AM ET
How does remaining quiet.......
-- 2hhoop3
May 04, 2024 at 06:56 PM ET
2hhoop3
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05/04/24 06:56 PM ET
1. If it was a bad deal, preventing disclosure makes the damages by Clemson
-- TDVick
May 05, 2024 at 02:02 PM ET
TDVick
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05/05/24 02:02 PM ET
You need to think a little deeper......
-- 2hhoop3
May 05, 2024 at 02:16 PM ET
2hhoop3
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05/05/24 02:16 PM ET
That is the key. Put a dollar figure next to each school in the ACC. The
-- Big12 guy
May 04, 2024 at 07:11 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/04/24 07:11 PM ET
I thought they were paid with the OUT exit fees - but I'm no sure now. **
-- Big12 guy
May 04, 2024 at 08:03 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/04/24 08:03 PM ET
The four G5 newbies were paid $19 million each for '23 & '24 seasons.
-- 33laszlo99
May 04, 2024 at 10:37 PM ET
33laszlo99
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05/04/24 10:37 PM ET
It’s probably going to take a federal, as opposed to a state, lawsuit
-- RJHokie
May 04, 2024 at 04:14 PM ET
RJHokie
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05/04/24 04:14 PM ET
I think they just wanted the ACC network
-- Millpoint
May 04, 2024 at 02:28 PM ET
Millpoint
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05/04/24 02:28 PM ET
They looked and were willing to pay the price. It may end up like hiring
-- VTCALS72
May 05, 2024 at 07:36 AM ET
VTCALS72
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05/05/24 07:36 AM ET
The easy play for The ACC would be to just outsource production to Raycom,
-- 33laszlo99
May 05, 2024 at 12:58 PM ET
33laszlo99
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05/05/24 12:58 PM ET
ESPN also had all of the ACC schools build broadcast facilities before...
-- EDGEMAN
May 04, 2024 at 06:01 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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05/04/24 06:01 PM ET
When the news leaked out that ESPN had the opportunity to pull the plug in
-- Maroon Baboon
May 04, 2024 at 10:24 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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05/04/24 10:24 AM ET
I want what benefits VT the most and ESPN backing out is not it.**
-- VTCALS72
May 05, 2024 at 11:23 AM ET
VTCALS72
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05/05/24 11:23 AM ET
Don't know why ESPN would even consider continuing the media deal
-- wwhokie1
May 04, 2024 at 11:17 PM ET
wwhokie1
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05/04/24 11:17 PM ET
Don't know why ACC would even bother giving ESPN an extension in making the
-- Maroon Baboon
May 04, 2024 at 11:33 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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05/04/24 11:33 PM ET
I think what you miss is exactly where the ACCN was at the time the
-- VTCALS72
May 05, 2024 at 04:29 PM ET
VTCALS72
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05/05/24 04:29 PM ET
If that's the case, why is everyone acting like they didn't know about it?
-- Maroon Baboon
May 05, 2024 at 09:25 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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05/05/24 09:25 PM ET
First, That is like saying the public need to have spoon fed to them
-- VTCALS72
May 06, 2024 at 07:53 AM ET
VTCALS72
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05/06/24 07:53 AM ET
When you say "most likely everybody had a copy of the (ACC/media contract)"
-- Maroon Baboon
May 06, 2024 at 10:58 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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05/06/24 10:58 AM ET
Reread it, yes I see how you took that but try this
-- VTCALS72
May 06, 2024 at 01:38 PM ET
VTCALS72
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05/06/24 01:38 PM ET
I couldn’t agree with you more. The revelation that ESPN could unilaterally
-- WBGV
May 04, 2024 at 03:35 PM ET
WBGV
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05/04/24 03:35 PM ET
Your assumed tie in to the media deal in 2027 and the end of the GOR will
-- VTCALS72
May 05, 2024 at 04:23 PM ET
VTCALS72
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05/05/24 04:23 PM ET
If there is no media rights agreement after 2027,
-- WBGV
May 05, 2024 at 11:43 PM ET
WBGV
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05/05/24 11:43 PM ET
So there is no CFP agreement past the first "look in" date?
-- VTCALS72
May 06, 2024 at 08:03 AM ET
VTCALS72
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05/06/24 08:03 AM ET
Not referring to any look-in clause, but rather ESPN’s Unilateral Nine-Year
-- WBGV
May 06, 2024 at 05:37 PM ET
WBGV
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05/06/24 05:37 PM ET
It looks like, best case, the ACC has 3 football seasons left. If there
-- TDVick
May 04, 2024 at 03:02 PM ET
TDVick
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05/04/24 03:02 PM ET
That is Probably the Timeline
-- WarHog38
May 04, 2024 at 07:32 PM ET
WarHog38
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05/04/24 07:32 PM ET
Wait, you hope ESPN renegotiates for a lesser payout to the ACC after FSU &
-- UpstateSCHokie
May 04, 2024 at 10:58 AM ET
UpstateSCHokie
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05/04/24 10:58 AM ET
No. But if the ACC is going to let the two top football dogs out, I'd
-- Maroon Baboon
May 04, 2024 at 08:00 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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05/04/24 08:00 PM ET
Yea, it’s weird seeing VT fans rooting for the ACC’s death…
-- BROman Hokie
May 04, 2024 at 04:00 PM ET
BROman Hokie
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05/04/24 04:00 PM ET
I agree 100% that fear is a driving force in those lawsuits. **
-- Big12 guy
May 04, 2024 at 10:21 AM ET
Big12 guy
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05/04/24 10:21 AM ET
From VT’s perspective, the best deal is the one we currently have
-- Hokie1992
May 04, 2024 at 11:47 AM ET
Hokie1992
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05/04/24 11:47 AM ET
That last sentence is relevant, unless VT too was mislead by the ACC and
-- Big12 guy
May 04, 2024 at 12:06 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/04/24 12:06 PM ET
Yes. He also maintains an FSU channel.
-- Flanker
May 04, 2024 at 09:33 AM ET
Flanker
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05/04/24 09:33 AM ET
The Big 12 Hung by a Thread Right After Texas & Oklahoma Left
-- WarHog38
May 04, 2024 at 08:13 PM ET
WarHog38
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05/04/24 08:13 PM ET
Geography is only an advantage for expansion. You are correct, it
-- Big12 guy
May 05, 2024 at 09:05 AM ET
Big12 guy
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05/05/24 09:05 AM ET
Yes that Locked On Big 12 is also annoying. He constantly drools over Miami
-- UpstateSCHokie
May 04, 2024 at 09:36 AM ET
UpstateSCHokie
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05/04/24 09:36 AM ET
Never seen him before,...but yes, he is annoying.**
-- saret
May 04, 2024 at 09:09 AM ET
saret
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05/04/24 09:09 AM ET
I like to follow several podcast on realignment but this guy
-- VTCALS72
May 04, 2024 at 08:38 AM ET
VTCALS72
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05/04/24 08:38 AM ET
Got Some Heavy Flak That Seemed to Slow Him Down a Bit
-- WarHog38
May 04, 2024 at 09:15 PM ET
WarHog38
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05/04/24 09:15 PM ET
I agree; self delusional fsu
-- DMV Gobbler
May 04, 2024 at 08:16 AM ET
DMV Gobbler
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05/04/24 08:16 AM ET
Very much so. Like a car wreck, you can never look away though. **
-- HokiesACC2004
May 04, 2024 at 02:15 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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05/04/24 02:15 AM ET
Listen carefully, just backed down his earlier prediction of FSU & Clemson
-- Stech
May 03, 2024 at 10:25 PM ET
Stech
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05/03/24 10:25 PM ET
To me, he was so confident on the June 30th date, that
-- Big12 guy
May 04, 2024 at 09:05 AM ET
Big12 guy
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05/04/24 09:05 AM ET
The best thing you can do.....
-- 2hhoop3
May 03, 2024 at 10:39 PM ET
2hhoop3
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05/03/24 10:39 PM ET