Do they deserve to be one of the top 40-60 programs? Sure they do, but it's my contention it will not happen. The PAC will stick around unless they refuse to sign the GOR, and then the ones that want to leave to the 12, will. If that happens, it will be a sad day for college football. The remaining Cal schools, Oregon and Washington, and a couple of others will be on an island. The Big10 will not extend an invitation unless FOX is willing to pay them - the current Universities in the Big10, will not take a pay cut to include them. People are delusional that this is a move to have a break away league. The PAC needs to sign no matter what the media deal is. The Big12 as we know them now - some REALLY good programs - decided their best bet was to stick together - the PAC should come to the same conclusion. You guys in the ACC need to as well.