I would agree with all of that. I'd also say that even
if USF made a run in the playoffs a couple of times, it still would not be a major draw for the nations eyeballs during the regular season. "Big market" is a nothing burger anymore, and as far as media money is concerned, I don't see how they bring value.
All that being said, UCF is out there on an island, and a travel partner could save millions for the schools traveling there for the non revs. In addition, I think we can all agree that the South East (Florida) and Texas have emerged as the best and deepest recruiting states. The question for the B12 is do they want to be in Florida, or don't they? There is very little, if any chance that Miami or FSU end up in the B12. Then you have the prospect of FSU and Miami going to the P2. USF is there for the taking, and the ACC have passed on them. No differently than UCF, Cincy, or WVU - or UConn for that matter.
I'm way OK with UCF and Cincy in our conference even though they are not "brands" or bring in huge amounts of media money. They are a relatively close school to WVU, and since VT wasn't/isn't available, it seems to fit. (Pitt would be a better example for WVU)
** Edited by Big12 guy at 1/14/2026, 11:07:19 AM
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Click bait is throwing smoke that the B12
-- Big12 guy
Jan 13, 2026 at 04:36 PM ET
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01/13/26 04:36 PM ET
Pitt's big problem is the same as USF's problem.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 14, 2026 at 10:39 AM ET
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01/14/26 10:39 AM ET
I would agree with all of that. I'd also say that even
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-- Big12 guy
Jan 14, 2026 at 10:55 AM ET
Big12 guy
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01/14/26 10:55 AM ET
I imagine that, out of necessity, USF is going to be very high on the ACC's
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 15, 2026 at 12:46 PM ET
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01/15/26 12:46 PM ET
USF may be high on the ACC's list among the G6 schools, but USF could still
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 15, 2026 at 03:53 PM ET
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01/15/26 03:53 PM ET
Wait, some of those are not privates. **
-- Big12 guy
Jan 15, 2026 at 03:55 PM ET
Big12 guy
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01/15/26 03:55 PM ET
Well they don't play football - that's even higher on the ACC's list.**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 16, 2026 at 10:02 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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01/16/26 10:02 AM ET
You will be surprised how many foreign universities play both football
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 16, 2026 at 12:13 PM ET
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01/16/26 12:13 PM ET
If Pitt only had real estate available for on-campus stadium…
-- Calamitous
Jan 13, 2026 at 09:23 PM ET
Calamitous
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01/13/26 09:23 PM ET
I remember full well the Pitt glory days. The gist of
-- Big12 guy
Jan 14, 2026 at 07:09 AM ET
Big12 guy
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01/14/26 07:09 AM ET
Nebraska and Iowa State fans are an enigma…
-- Calamitous
Jan 14, 2026 at 09:48 PM ET
Calamitous
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01/14/26 09:48 PM ET
That would be great for USF. Hope they end up there or ACC**
-- OrlandoHokie
Jan 13, 2026 at 08:22 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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01/13/26 08:22 PM ET
I will have some good views of this soon
-- HokieAl
Jan 13, 2026 at 07:16 PM ET
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01/13/26 07:16 PM ET
Commissioner that get's it, and one that doesn't, unless ND approves of it!**
-- Stech
Jan 13, 2026 at 08:00 PM ET
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01/13/26 08:00 PM ET