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Soooo...

Few thoughts: I am not sure if ND will move up to 6 games permanently or they just don't count Stanford w/ the original 5 ACC opp each season. If two of those 5 go to FSU/Clem/Mia each season, that leaves a rotation of 3 games available to the remaining 13 teams (I didn't include Stanford). Thus, we would be a positive to get them once every 4 years. Our current futures schedule shows VT-ND match-ups for '27, '28, '33, and '36 (thru '36). That would average once every 3 years (like the original agreement stated). I would think ND would like that because going to Bburg would still be a good-size draw - does VT get any buyout $$$ if they cancel some of those dates, or do they consider them ever-changing like our conference schedule each year? Another thought would be why wouldn't ND join the ACC fully? The ACC (apparently with the way they have handled themselves over the last 5 years) would bend over backwards for any shot at this. No doubt in my mind ND could join, keep their own TV deal for their home games, and state which teams they would want to play for at least 5 or 6 of their 8 conference games. I think the kicker in this was the ACC getting into Texas and California since adding 2-3 games w/ the ACC would still allow the national schedule. ND wants to play a national schedule. Also, if the SEC and B10 do their agreement of having their teams play one another, there are less opportunities for ND to fill their schedule. They could state they want Stanford each year (keep their rotating Cali trip w/ USC/Stanford) - they already have two of the 3 of FSU/Clem/Mia so they have a trip to Florida almost guaranteed each year. They can demand to rotate w/ BC and Syr to go northeast each year. They can rotate w/ the VA/NC schools to get to the mid-Atlantic each year. Also, SMU is in the mix so they can get down to TX (maybe include an OOC TX opponent to rotate to get there each year or another in-conference foe which leads me to...). One other thought if ND fully joins - the ACC gets some more $$$ (not P2 $$$, but closing the gap some). That would keep schools from leaving somewhat. Could the ACC hand-pick a few Big 12 schools to help with the ND to TX issue, or add WVU to get some more rivalries while adding a state (not big one, but another). Do they grab Utah, Kansas, one of the TX schools, and/or a couple of other schools to get to 20, 22, or even 24 before the Big 12 media deals end (even BYU)? I only mention this because I think if the ACC adds a couple more schools, it wouldn't dilute if you get to pick the ones they want - this would also be a basketball move - I was looking at basketball standings, and I could not overlook 10 of the top 25 are SEC schools (15 if you add B10 schools). Right now, only 2 of the top 25 are ACC schools. I would think yearly matchups of Kansas-Duke or UNC-Kansas would move some eyeballs in February.
Posted: 01/31/2025 at 09:07 AM ET
(In response to this post by HOO86)

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ESPN opted in and the ACC approved.
RandomAsianGuy 01/30/25 05:24 PM ET
I do wonder if those “value adds” means more expansion
Victor Tango 01/30/25 10:29 PM ET
Doubt it
Marooned 01/31/25 06:26 AM ET
Some previously scheduled ND games will be reallocated to the brand schools
1947Sunbowl 01/30/25 10:51 PM ET
Yep. This extension was a disaster for VT.
Baltimore_Hokie 01/31/25 11:33 AM ET
Well, it would depend on your expectations if VT in the ACC
saret 02/01/25 10:57 AM ET
Granted that........
2hhoop3 02/01/25 09:57 AM ET
Hate it when you old guys remember history. It's so disconcerting
saret 02/01/25 10:44 AM ET
I'm not sure what gave any of you the impression that I'm some 12 year old-
Baltimore_Hokie 02/03/25 10:26 AM ET
Some of what you say is true.......
2hhoop3 02/03/25 12:08 PM ET
VT is certainly not blameless in this whole mess.
Baltimore_Hokie 02/03/25 01:07 PM ET
Conference affiliation.......
2hhoop3 02/03/25 01:13 PM ET
I think the ACC's biggest problem, money notwithstanding, is-
Baltimore_Hokie 02/03/25 01:22 PM ET
It is a very big......
2hhoop3 02/03/25 01:48 PM ET
I'll see if I can reply to your reply to me.
saret 02/03/25 11:22 AM ET
ACC and ESPN new deal?
HOO86 01/30/25 07:25 PM ET
Soooo...
The_VT_Rock 01/31/25 09:07 AM ET
To me, the logic is OK, but the premise is shaky. I've seen no
saret 02/03/25 01:51 PM ET
ND is not joining the ACC, or any other conference.
mancunian 01/31/25 11:44 AM ET
I would prefer the ACC toss out ND in it's entirety.
Atlee Hokie 02/01/25 01:54 PM ET
Football independence is a religion at ND
TerryD 01/31/25 10:47 AM ET
Forgot to include one other thing...
The_VT_Rock 01/31/25 09:49 AM ET
Haha TerryD I complained about ND not playing the top 3 enough, now are
Stech 01/30/25 07:59 PM ET
ND isn't going to play more ACC games
TerryD 01/30/25 08:05 PM ET
Does that continue if F$U continues to suck and Miami continues being Miami
EDGEMAN 01/31/25 08:09 AM ET
No guarantee
MrFantastic! 01/31/25 05:28 AM ET
ND could do an independent deal with Stanford
HOO86 01/30/25 09:22 PM ET
Stanford wasn't in the ACC then
TerryD 01/30/25 10:47 PM ET
That's why I said outside the ACC games.
HOO86 01/31/25 07:51 AM ET
Lol, Stanford is still ACC
TerryD 01/31/25 08:57 AM ET
Didn’t U believe ND wouldn’t agree 2 play 5 ACC 🏈games before it happened?
Stech 01/31/25 08:20 PM ET
I had no opinion on it in 2012
TerryD 02/01/25 08:08 AM ET
That’s not true and you know it, for either one of us.**
Stech 02/01/25 08:25 AM ET
Huh?
TerryD 02/01/25 09:59 AM ET
Wasn’t the question to you, the question was did you think they would do it
Stech 02/01/25 10:55 AM ET
My question is what does ND do if th P2 break off and only play each other?
Stech 01/30/25 11:26 PM ET
It's not likely, sorry
TerryD 01/30/25 11:36 PM ET
I don’t want it to happen, not at all, just wanted your opinion if it did.
Stech 01/31/25 08:13 PM ET
Not at all
TerryD 02/01/25 08:09 AM ET
You are on a roll, you didn’t answer the question again, but your answer
Stech 02/01/25 08:27 AM ET
You reach and ignore often
TerryD 02/01/25 10:19 AM ET
I don’t reach or ignore, your describing yourself, especially on admitting
Stech 02/01/25 11:11 AM ET
Football is still not a conference member
TerryD 02/03/25 12:53 PM ET
Changing the subject from you never thinking they would sign 5 🏈 ACC games
Stech 02/03/25 02:03 PM ET
Given that the schools are currently meeting to re-organize the NCAA, it is
VTHokie2000 01/31/25 08:35 AM ET
That is all "future tripping",
TerryD 01/31/25 08:59 AM ET
Unless people attending those meetings are publicly revealing anything
VTHokie2000 01/31/25 09:02 AM ET
P.S. I called it "mission creep" and still do**
TerryD 01/30/25 10:48 PM ET
Like having ND as a mutual partner, strongly dislike the arrogance.**
Hardcore_Hokie 01/30/25 08:58 PM ET
Maybe my comprehension is wrong. I read it as ND will
Big12 guy 01/30/25 08:02 PM ET
I can see the following scenario:
RandomAsianGuy 01/30/25 07:36 PM ET
The ACC needs ND more than ND needs the ACC. I read it
Big12 guy 01/30/25 07:46 PM ET
Typical Big 12 fan POV.
RandomAsianGuy 01/30/25 08:19 PM ET
So if VT starts crushing it, we may be playing ND more often
Marooned 01/30/25 09:31 PM ET
Yeah, but that's not the deal.
Baltimore_Hokie 01/31/25 11:37 AM ET
No better time than now to wreck civilization and let
Marooned 01/31/25 06:16 PM ET
I won't make some generalization because of a moniker
Big12 guy 01/30/25 08:44 PM ET
ND - Stanford contract expired in 2024
RandomAsianGuy 01/30/25 09:23 PM ET
Wowww!!! 11 year GOR approved is big news!!!**
Stech 01/30/25 05:31 PM ET
Yes, this is good news for the ACC.
Truthahn 02/04/25 01:19 PM ET
11 more years of people saying the ACC will self destruct
PadrosWindup 01/30/25 06:29 PM ET
Here is the link on the article **
Stech 01/30/25 05:39 PM ET