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reestuart
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I agree with every bit of that. I'm not a Phillips hater. He took over

down 14 with a minute left and no timeouts. The other team has the ball. There's just not a bunch he can actually do IMO. The ACC has -always- been late to the party.
Posted: 07/24/2024 at 09:08 AM ET
(In response to this post by HokieAl)

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Jim Phillips presentation today was perhaps the best I've seen from him
HOO86 • 07/22/24 06:39 PM ET
The problem is he didn't get aggressive until that aggression was aimed at
wwhokie1 • 07/24/24 02:18 PM ET
You're right.......
2hhoop3 • 07/24/24 02:29 PM ET
A rebuttal for consideration
HokieAl • 07/23/24 02:25 PM ET
I agree with every bit of that. I'm not a Phillips hater. He took over ◄
reestuart • 07/24/24 09:08 AM ET
Agree on all counts.**
Maroon Baboon • 07/23/24 05:22 PM ET
Was the ACC late and slow or was it ESPN?
VTCALS72 • 07/23/24 04:44 PM ET
It was ESPN, but it was also those in the ACC responsible for negotiating
wwhokie1 • 07/23/24 05:04 PM ET
there's no way to know how involved other networks were, but it seemed
reestuart • 07/24/24 09:22 AM ET
Don't forget about Chad Swofford's raycom deal**
ren_hoek • 07/23/24 09:13 PM ET
If that is true, all the difference maker negotiators are in the P2
VTCALS72 • 07/23/24 06:24 PM ET
That's why we're currently on the outside looking in**
wwhokie1 • 07/23/24 09:12 PM ET
So you think there really was anything the ACC, or Big 12 or PAC before
VTCALS72 • 07/23/24 09:18 PM ET
Nothing we could have done that would have made us equal with the P2, but
wwhokie1 • 07/23/24 09:39 PM ET
Question, aren't your "milestones" the same as the ESPN "Look in"
VTCALS72 • 07/24/24 06:56 AM ET
I'm not sure anybody understands fully the ESPN look in. But it doesn't
wwhokie1 • 07/24/24 09:51 AM ET
It's not what I feel about the ACC, it is what ESPN felt
VTCALS72 • 07/24/24 12:21 PM ET
That was exactly the problem and the point I am making. The attitude that
wwhokie1 • 07/24/24 01:37 PM ET
The problem is.......
2hhoop3 • 07/24/24 10:06 AM ET
It is the responsibility of the negotiator to know the value of the product
wwhokie1 • 07/24/24 12:02 PM ET
You are correct....
2hhoop3 • 07/24/24 12:30 PM ET
No doubt ACC would be so much better off
SpeakToDamien • 07/23/24 03:56 PM ET
Your rebuttal needs more context........
2hhoop3 • 07/23/24 03:00 PM ET
Swofford and ACCs big white whale - Notre Dame
mjfhokie • 07/23/24 10:22 AM ET
Of all the pipedreams (ND) to put so many chips on and whiff. It
TDVick • 07/27/24 11:13 PM ET
The lesson is: if a big white whale swims by, enjoy the view but don't
wwhokie1 • 07/24/24 02:20 PM ET
What has ND signed to say they will join the ACC
VTCALS72 • 07/23/24 01:39 PM ET
Part of the deal with the ACC in 2016
Victor Tango • 07/23/24 02:10 PM ET
Has anyone read this ND deal?
TerryD • 07/24/24 07:46 AM ET
I feel like this "deal" was an imaginary pipe dream by delusional leader-
VPI_1998 • 07/24/24 08:59 AM ET
No, but here is an old Dennis Dodd article mentioning the agreement
Victor Tango • 07/24/24 08:56 AM ET
I agree on the basis of Phillips and Integrity
PFHokie • 07/23/24 07:03 AM ET
But we (VT) would jump into the B1G if given the chance. Talk about
133193Hokie • 07/23/24 02:48 PM ET
How about if they are the front, to get more money from ESPN for the ACC?
Stech • 07/23/24 07:09 AM ET
I'm not willing to give the ACC enough credit for being that shrewd.
wwhokie1 • 07/23/24 10:41 AM ET
What has happened is way above the heads of the Big 12, PAC or ACC
VTCALS72 • 07/23/24 01:44 PM ET
That might be right, but at this point, all the theories are just guesses.
Stech • 07/23/24 11:14 AM ET
It's not just you, but it's certainly the exception. **
wwhokie1 • 07/23/24 01:52 PM ET
Agreed, especially in this day and time.**
Stech • 07/23/24 06:53 PM ET
I've felt that Clemson might actually be doing the heavy lifting
obguthr • 07/23/24 10:39 AM ET
That's another plausible theory, but I lean if that is happening, FSU was
Stech • 07/23/24 11:11 AM ET
It's an expensive legal ruse for them and the ACC if that is the plan.**
Victor Tango • 07/23/24 08:41 AM ET
Could be, but it also could increase the pay enough to make it worth it, my
Stech • 07/23/24 11:09 AM ET
Just read these boards to see the Swofford venom. Deserved or not, it's
ancient alien 2018 • 07/22/24 09:03 PM ET
In my opinion Swofford more than deserves all the venom coming his way
VPI_1998 • 07/24/24 07:14 AM ET
Reminds me of the NHL. Poor Gary Bettman gets boo’d everywhere.
OrlandoHokie • 07/22/24 11:34 PM ET
I know, but think Jim Phillips is referring to the lawsuits.
HOO86 • 07/22/24 11:19 PM ET
Everybody liked the long-term GOR deal when it was signed.
wwhokie1 • 07/22/24 11:18 PM ET
Swofford catches grief primarily because of several things:
RJHokie • 07/22/24 07:30 PM ET
Uhh...how about the conference of misfit toys dictating to the ACC?
Techsupport • 07/23/24 09:44 AM ET
All you guys posting stuff like the ACC actually had a chance to be on
VTCALS72 • 07/23/24 02:40 PM ET
We should sure as hell be above the B12, THATS the point.**
Techsupport • 07/23/24 02:55 PM ET
How are we not?
VTCALS72 • 07/23/24 04:41 PM ET
B12 is on verge of a very big deal**
Techsupport • 07/24/24 08:22 AM ET
Are they not?.......
2hhoop3 • 07/23/24 03:14 PM ET
You are a better conference. You have elite academic institutions,
Big12 guy • 07/23/24 03:05 PM ET
The ACC had their chance to take anybody they wanted from the Big 12.
wwhokie1 • 07/23/24 10:37 AM ET
3rd or 4th doesn't matter much as payout will pretty much equal out
VTCALS72 • 07/23/24 02:47 PM ET
That is only half of how dumb that was.
Truthahn • 07/23/24 11:32 AM ET
Agree, the Big 12 breaking up would have been preferable to the pac-12**
wwhokie1 • 07/23/24 01:51 PM ET
I think that KU would have preferred the ACC over the PAC - hands down. **
Big12 guy • 07/23/24 11:48 AM ET
I'm not sure being #3 is a prize here, unless we can find
Big12 guy • 07/23/24 11:02 AM ET
Number three is better than number four, however, in this case not by much.
wwhokie1 • 07/23/24 01:49 PM ET
Sounds like "PAC" 202**
Big12 guy • 07/23/24 10:12 AM ET
Excellent post. He looks really bad. When you factor in the double
TDVick • 07/23/24 03:49 AM ET
would you not agree that the ACC is still standing
VTCALS72 • 07/23/24 08:01 AM ET
I agree **
HokiesACC2004 • 07/24/24 07:00 AM ET
Totally agree RJHokie, all are very valid points !**
FLKEYSHOKIE • 07/22/24 10:07 PM ET
Sounds like he did a good job today**
Vippie1 • 07/22/24 06:47 PM ET
David Teel saw what I saw.
HOO86 • 07/22/24 08:48 PM ET
Subscriber only unfortunately.**
VTChip • 07/22/24 11:31 PM ET
Subscription Required**
Marooned • 07/22/24 09:38 PM ET
Richond Paper. Sorry.
HOO86 • 07/22/24 11:54 PM ET