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Respectfully, what you are missing is regionalism trumps nationalism

And my regionalism is from a fans, supporter, "eyeball" perspective and not marketing plans. The statement things will pretty much be the same is from a small state, no P2 school in close proximity view. Take ISU and OSU and add say 2 more P2 schools that fans have as much access to for a day trip as they do OSU and ISU. Do you think the ISU/OSU presence/market position would not drop like a rock? It is not based on "really good" athletic programs, especially those in low population states and regions. There just are not enough eyeballs in any of those schools you listed under those circumstances. Do you really think that even two of the big 12 best, ISU and OSU could be included in the P2 and with that backing, draw anywhere near the same eyeballs that VT/NCSU would? Remember this is about getting more money and there simply is more money in two adjoining states that rank from 9th to 12th in population. NCSU, VT, GT, Pitt, and L-ville could all be left behind and have the P2 in their faces in just about every time slot in a way the Big 12 schools you mentioned will not. And, VT and NCSU are really up against it as they will be surrounded by P2 teams within distance that fans can drive by their stadiums in 3 different ways to attend P2 games for a day trip. It is just a different world.
Posted: 06/07/2024 at 07:36 AM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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In what condition will the P2 leave the 2nd Tier of college football?
Maroon Baboon 06/06/24 08:33 PM ET
There will be no two tier as some think. there will be blue bloods
Big12 guy 06/06/24 10:21 PM ET
Respectfully, what you are missing is regionalism trumps nationalism
VTCALS72 06/07/24 07:36 AM ET
I sort of agree with that, but I'm not sold it's true anymore
Vienna_Hokie 06/07/24 08:58 AM ET
Based on the schools that you used as an example,
Big12 guy 06/07/24 08:20 AM ET
You're drinkin the Kool-Aid if you think Iowa State and Oklahoma State are-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/11/24 02:59 PM ET
A different level? maybe I typed wrong, I do not think they are
Big12 guy 06/11/24 03:13 PM ET
I see. Neither are what I would consider a G5-
Baltimore_Hokie 06/11/24 03:25 PM ET
I don't disagree with you, as ISU has never won anything in
Big12 guy 06/11/24 03:41 PM ET
I think we agree on most points.
Baltimore_Hokie 06/11/24 03:58 PM ET
I think that is what some miss with the B12. Except for
Big12 guy 06/11/24 04:07 PM ET
Point 2, "there is no day trip in the B12," Exactly
VTCALS72 06/07/24 12:12 PM ET
They sell out their stadiums. **
Big12 guy 06/07/24 12:32 PM ET
the counter point is they are much closer to being maxed out than VT/NCSU**
VTCALS72 06/07/24 06:00 PM ET
Too long to respond to in one post so one point
VTCALS72 06/07/24 12:10 PM ET
Good post.....
2hhoop3 06/07/24 12:32 PM ET
I'll take that comparison every day. **
Big12 guy 06/07/24 12:37 PM ET
You would take being.......
2hhoop3 06/07/24 12:40 PM ET
Sure, being right all the time is boring. **
Big12 guy 06/07/24 12:51 PM ET
Fair enough........
2hhoop3 06/07/24 12:55 PM ET
Good info.**
saret 06/07/24 12:17 PM ET
In the big picture, nothing has changed
HokiesACC2004 06/07/24 01:28 AM ET
Yeah, power dynamic hasn't changed but existing problems are getting worse
HokieNoVA 06/07/24 10:22 AM ET
I completely disagree. It makes it tougher to win a natty,
Big12 guy 06/07/24 10:40 AM ET
The increased gap may be a justification that it is time for the P2 to
VTHokie2000 06/07/24 11:57 AM ET
I would argue that what changed was parity threatening the blue blood model
HokieAl 06/06/24 11:27 PM ET
G5's in the playoffs are no threat to the P2/4.
33laszlo99 06/06/24 11:55 PM ET
I think you missed the point.
Baltimore_Hokie 06/11/24 03:10 PM ET
Just close your mind to a time before PRE paid athletes and NIL. The box
cricket77 06/06/24 08:47 PM ET
maybe there would be a P6 or P8 if admins weren't short sighted/greedy...
BUGGZY 06/06/24 10:01 PM ET
Great Take!!!
VPI 1924 06/06/24 09:43 PM ET