Respectfully, what you are missing is regionalism trumps nationalism
And my regionalism is from a fans, supporter, "eyeball" perspective and not marketing plans. The statement things will pretty much be the same is from a small state, no P2 school in close proximity view. Take ISU and OSU and add say 2 more P2 schools that fans have as much access to for a day trip as they do OSU and ISU. Do you think the ISU/OSU presence/market position would not drop like a rock?
It is not based on "really good" athletic programs, especially those in low population states and regions. There just are not enough eyeballs in any of those schools you listed under those circumstances. Do you really think that even two of the big 12 best, ISU and OSU could be included in the P2 and with that backing, draw anywhere near the same eyeballs that VT/NCSU would? Remember this is about getting more money and there simply is more money in two adjoining states that rank from 9th to 12th in population.
NCSU, VT, GT, Pitt, and L-ville could all be left behind and have the P2 in their faces in just about every time slot in a way the Big 12 schools you mentioned will not. And, VT and NCSU are really up against it as they will be surrounded by P2 teams within distance that fans can drive by their stadiums in 3 different ways to attend P2 games for a day trip.
It is just a different world.
Thread Replies (30)
In what condition will the P2 leave the 2nd Tier of college football?
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 06, 2024 at 08:33 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/06/24 08:33 PM ET
There will be no two tier as some think. there will be blue bloods
-- Big12 guy
Jun 06, 2024 at 10:21 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/06/24 10:21 PM ET
Respectfully, what you are missing is regionalism trumps nationalism
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-- VTCALS72
Jun 07, 2024 at 07:36 AM ET
VTCALS72
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06/07/24 07:36 AM ET
I sort of agree with that, but I'm not sold it's true anymore
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jun 07, 2024 at 08:58 AM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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06/07/24 08:58 AM ET
Based on the schools that you used as an example,
-- Big12 guy
Jun 07, 2024 at 08:20 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/07/24 08:20 AM ET
You're drinkin the Kool-Aid if you think Iowa State and Oklahoma State are-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 11, 2024 at 02:59 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/11/24 02:59 PM ET
A different level? maybe I typed wrong, I do not think they are
-- Big12 guy
Jun 11, 2024 at 03:13 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/11/24 03:13 PM ET
I see. Neither are what I would consider a G5-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 11, 2024 at 03:25 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/11/24 03:25 PM ET
I don't disagree with you, as ISU has never won anything in
-- Big12 guy
Jun 11, 2024 at 03:41 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/11/24 03:41 PM ET
I think we agree on most points.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 11, 2024 at 03:58 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/11/24 03:58 PM ET
I think that is what some miss with the B12. Except for
-- Big12 guy
Jun 11, 2024 at 04:07 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/11/24 04:07 PM ET
Point 2, "there is no day trip in the B12," Exactly
-- VTCALS72
Jun 07, 2024 at 12:12 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/07/24 12:12 PM ET
They sell out their stadiums. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 07, 2024 at 12:32 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/07/24 12:32 PM ET
the counter point is they are much closer to being maxed out than VT/NCSU**
-- VTCALS72
Jun 07, 2024 at 06:00 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/07/24 06:00 PM ET
Too long to respond to in one post so one point
-- VTCALS72
Jun 07, 2024 at 12:10 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/07/24 12:10 PM ET
I'll take that comparison every day. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 07, 2024 at 12:37 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/07/24 12:37 PM ET
Sure, being right all the time is boring. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 07, 2024 at 12:51 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/07/24 12:51 PM ET
In the big picture, nothing has changed
-- HokiesACC2004
Jun 07, 2024 at 01:28 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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06/07/24 01:28 AM ET
Yeah, power dynamic hasn't changed but existing problems are getting worse
-- HokieNoVA
Jun 07, 2024 at 10:22 AM ET
HokieNoVA
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06/07/24 10:22 AM ET
I completely disagree. It makes it tougher to win a natty,
-- Big12 guy
Jun 07, 2024 at 10:40 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/07/24 10:40 AM ET
The increased gap may be a justification that it is time for the P2 to
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 07, 2024 at 11:57 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/07/24 11:57 AM ET
I would argue that what changed was parity threatening the blue blood model
-- HokieAl
Jun 06, 2024 at 11:27 PM ET
HokieAl
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06/06/24 11:27 PM ET
G5's in the playoffs are no threat to the P2/4.
-- 33laszlo99
Jun 06, 2024 at 11:55 PM ET
33laszlo99
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06/06/24 11:55 PM ET
I think you missed the point.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 11, 2024 at 03:10 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/11/24 03:10 PM ET
Just close your mind to a time before PRE paid athletes and NIL. The box
-- cricket77
Jun 06, 2024 at 08:47 PM ET
cricket77
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06/06/24 08:47 PM ET
maybe there would be a P6 or P8 if admins weren't short sighted/greedy...
-- BUGGZY
Jun 06, 2024 at 10:01 PM ET
BUGGZY
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06/06/24 10:01 PM ET